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I have mixed feelings about this. Glad to see the Duffer getting out of the mess that is Newcastle United, but not too sure if a return to Blackburn is the way forward.
I'd probably feel different if Hughes was still there, but im not convinced by Paul Ince.
On a side note, even if this is just gossip, its very sad to see the once great Damo Duff even being mentioned in an article, concerning swap deals for Stephen Warnock valued at £2-3m.
Well, in Ince's defence, he's earned a shot with decent results at a number of smaller clubs. That's nice to see these days.
I'm glad Duff's out of Newcastle too - it's a elephant graveyard for players. Blackburn are stable enough, so if Ince is really up to it, it could be a good place to rebuild confidence and form.
I'm not so sure, Blackburn are selling their best players - Friedel is gone, Bentley and Roque Santa Cruz are on their way - and some of the players brought in haven't impressed me. I don't think they're going to have a decent season.
Its just speculation at the moment. It seems it is Blackburn that mentioned Duff in the negotiations.
I agree. I think they'll struggle to stay out of the relegation places this season. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ince being the first managerial casualty of the campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Friedel is 37. I'm not saying he's no loss, but he was hardly the wave of the future either. While Bentley and Santa Cruz would big losses if they go, they are both likely to go for big money. I see no reason to panic.
I'm willing to wait and see about Ince. The season hasn't started yet.
I wouldn't be against Duff going back, his heart is probably still with the club and lets face it I wouldn't want to be around when Joey Barton gets welcomed back with open arms.
If Shay leaves for Arsenal, then icing on the cake.
Not a terrible move. The fact is Duff is no longer even close to the player he once was. He would have a defined role at Blackburn and I think Ince would work well with him.
I think I must be drunk reading some of these posts on here I am a Blackburn rovers season ticket holder and they will be nowhere near the relegation places with teams like Hull, West Brom and a load more I could name who have not got the players to Challenge Blackburn they are a consistant top 10 side and have been for the past three seasons
"I think they'll struggle to stay out of the relegation places this season"
absolute nonsense when they finished 7th last season none of the back four are going nowhere we have sold Friedal and replaced him with Robinson people were laughing when we took Friedal to ewood and he was class for 8 years
"and some of the players brought in haven't impressed me"
I would love to know who hasn’t impressed with the prices we have paid for players-Bentley 2.5mil now worth 15-17mil Santa Cruz Bought 3mil could be sold for 15 Samba 300.000 neilson free warnock 700.000 I could go on. We have a solid Midfield with Reid, and Dunn a good defence and 4 decent strikers-Duff would be a good addition as this is where he played his best football but not first choice over pederson who is a good player. But the fact that we could be in the relegation places is laughable sorry (I hope I am not eating my words in 9 months!!!)
Maybe Duff should have went to Liverpool instead of choosing the greedy option and going to Newcastle for the sake of a few grand extra.
He would have been linking up with the likes of Keane, Torres and Gerrard. I wonder how he woul have got.....
He said at his press conference when he joined NUFC that Lverpool were in for him.
Well said Irishbaz, Im a big Blackburn fan too and I know we will buy enough quality to replace anybody that leaves. We have brought in many players over the years that have impressed and we have made good profits in return, the structures at the club will prevent blackburn from being in a position of struggle.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by irishbaz
I meant the players that Ince has brought in so far this season. Friedel is going to be a big loss, Bentley is going to be hard to replace, ditto Roque Santa Cruz. Blackburn aren't going to get relegated, but I do think this is going to be their worst season in a while, I don't seem them finishing top 10Quote:
Originally Posted by irishbaz
I would love for Benitez to resurrect his interest in Duff. Liverpool could do with a left winger, and I'd love to see Keane and Duff linking up at club level. However, pipe-dreams, I suppose.
Ince has only made one signing which is Paul Robinson!! I don’t think that’s to bad we will lose Bentley but he will be replaced by Either Lennon or Pennant so it could be worse I think Santa Cruz will stay as he has stated he does not want to leave but the reality of football is someone may offer 15mil and a club like Blackburn will snap there hand off however with a 30mil buffer I would hope we could buy a decent striker to replace him. I still don’t believe it’s going to be a bad season I want to see Reidy get back into the form of 2 years ago and I am hoping Ince gives Tracy and Judge a run they have featured in pre season and done well
You will be eating your words. Yeah great you had a few decent finishes in the past few seasons but that was down to the manager you had more than any other factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishbaz
P.S. Just a reminder you have a new manager now who has never managed at a decent level before. We'll see how well he does. You will also lose Bentley and Santa Cruz before the transfer window closes. Also in case you hadn't noticed Robinson is sh*t as is Pennant. Those signings have relegation quality written all over them.
I hope not!! Interesting point you have made
Just a reminder you have a new manager now who has never managed at a decent level before
I respect the man for plying his trade at lower league level to build his skill set up he joined Macclesfield with the club bottom of League Two, seven points off their nearest rivals. He then revived confidence and after a 3-0 win against Chester they managed to climb off the bottom of the table. They subsequently avoided relegation, albeit on the last day of the season. On 4 January 2007 Ince was named as League Two Manager of the Month for December. he the went onto Mk dons Ince's first silverware as manager came in the Football League Trophy Final at Wembley on March 31, 2008, with the MK Dons defeating Grimsby Town 2-0. He then secured the Dons' return to Coca-Cola League 1 in April 2008 after they beat Stockport County 3-2. On April 26, the Dons became League Two champions after they beat Bradford City 2-1.
Lets look at that C.V against Mr Keanes managerial experience prior to Sunderland none so lets see before we make such reminders the guy has managed and done well so why not now because you say so? Also
Also in case you hadn't noticed Robinson is sh*t as is Pennant
I love the fact that people say premiership footballers are sh*t if they were they would be playing for the dog and duck like most of use on Sunday!! Robinson has played 41 times for England, through the youth ranks at Leeds United then player for Spurs well he must be dog Sh*t and Pennant signed for Liverpool on 26 July 2006, on a four year contract for a fee of £6.7 million, potentially rising to £8 million with add-ons again what a poor player he must be only to command an 8million fee!!!!!! Wake up all players go through poor periods in there careers Brad friedal was laughed out of Liverpool, England’s current number 1 earned the nickname Calamity JAMES all forgotten now with a good season-Pennant has hardly had a chance to stretch his legs under Benitaz. By the way one man does not make a team and I notice you didn’t comment on the Aaron Lennon transfer!! He will be part of any deal that brings Bentley to spurs I suppose he is more relegation fodder!! Yes we have had a few decent finishes but you are trying to say teams like Hull, West Brom, Stoke, Wigan to name a few have more quality than Blackburn (stop it)
Yeah Pennant signed for Liverpool for 6.7 million. That makes him brilliant doesn't it? Even though the manager who signed him subsequently didn't think he was good enough to warrant a regular game. In today's transfer fees 6.7 million is nothing for a Premiership player anyway. There are terrible players who've been sold for more than that. If Benitez sells Pennant tomorrow he would be lucky to recoup half that figure so yes Pennant is sh*t as far as Premiership players go. He's exactly the sort of player that teams struggling near the bottom of the Premiership have in their ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishbaz
As for Robinson who cares if he played 41 times for England? Since when in recent years have England been blessed with quality goalkeepers? They clearly haven't had a decent International keeper since Seaman retired. Robinson is a poor keeper who has been found out (I'm surprised it took so long) . He'll struggle to tie down a regular place in any half decent Premiership team over the next few seasons. How Blackburn are going to miss Friedel once Robinson gets a few games under his belt.
why the hell would Benitez sign him when he rufused to join a few years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diarmo
Robinson is tripe, he was the most over-rated keeper in the premiership for years, simply because he was young and English, but eventually people couldnt defend him any longer after so many mistakes, Scott Carson is another who is just as over-rated and equally as crap.
Blackburn will struggle this year, but i have to agree with irishbaz there are at least 6 teams in premiership worse than them, and they should be safe. I dont think Ince will turn out to be much of a manager in the premiership, Hughes has been the major reason Blackburn have punched above their weight in recent seasons.
I definitely wouldnt say that Blackburn are relegation material, but I think many people would agree that in the modern climate of spend-spend-spend Hughes took the club to about the best that they could expect to achieve (about 7th place).
I wouldnt really expect Ince to improve on that, so if he could keep them in the top 12 places he could be counted as being a success. so in a way right from the beginning Duff is playing in the second/third tier of premier league clubs. Not what i expected for one who was undoubtably a world class player 2-3 years ago.
On the bright side, I though that Robbie had missed his chance to play with big boys and now here he is is contending for the premier league title...... sorry, competing for a champions league spot!!!
I’m not saying 6.7 makes him a world beater but the point is he hasn’t played under the current Liverpool manager so he can’t be judged until tried for a period of time. I will again take up the point
He's exactly the sort of player that teams struggling near the bottom of the Premiership have in their ranks.
He is currently in the ranks of the Liverpool team who are of course struggling near the bottom of the premiership-Blackburn are not in this position either they finished 7th last season not in fact anywhere near the bottom of the table so your current opinion is based on? The fact we have sold Friedal and got a new manager!!! Blackburn are a stable Premiership team and have been for three years in a row!!
I see a trend developing where people tend to write individuals off very quickly-ince for instance has not even been in the role three weeks and Blackburn are suddenly relegation fodder which is nonsense-all I am saying is Robinson and Ince at least deserves a chance like Friedal when he first arrived and the fact is Pennant is not one of our players I would much prefer Aaron Lennon (which is a strong possibility)
absolutely no chance of that ever happening imo - duff had his chance --he took the wrong option and went to a club going nowhere fast and is now paying the priceQuote:
Originally Posted by Diarmo
I know it seems unlikely, but Liverpool's need for a left-sided player is desperate and the Barry deal is never going to happen now. Assuming that Duff's pre-season form (and the occasional glimmers playing for us last season) indicate that the basic talent still lurks beneath the layers of self-doubt and questionable fitness, it could be an inspired move by Benitez. He could probably land Duff for the same amount he would net for Pennant. There is very little to lose maybe Robbie can encourage him to take a punt.
They already have one in Babel who will play even more this season if he can stay fit. Leto is another who Rafa rates highly who can come in and do a job. Not as skillfull but very direct so IMO left wing isn't a major concern. Would like to have seen Bentley arriving for the right hand side though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diarmo
I see Blackburn are poised to sign Keith Andrews for 2 million according to some of today's papers. Another strange transfer involving Ince. Seems a bit high for a 28 year old journeyman who's never made it in the game at a decent level. More signs Blackburn will struggle under Ince.
Can't believe that price if true, Mk Dons would've snapped their hand off for a quarter that....Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Yeah for some reason I can see Ince struggling at Blackburn. Not sure what it is but letting Friedal go and getting in Robinson was not a great bit of business. If they lose Bentley and Santa Cruz, they will be in big trouble.