Wish we were rich like Bohs

Just back from Dalymount.

Amazed to see an Eircom League club so rich they can just turn away over 100 euro. I had orders from programme collectors and dealers for 46 programmes for tonight but Bohs would only sell me 10.

Apparently it is club policy. Wow I really wish Limerick were that rich that they'd turn away money like that. Are there any other premier division clubs in the same bracket? Certainly my money was never refused in any first division ground.

Despite protesting to the programme editor and 2 different sellers they stood firm.

I ended up having to get others to buy them for me as I'd already committed to buying these. One friend commented "it's a bit like the days of buying cigarettes for young fellas". In future I'll just tell them Bohs are too rich and don't want your money.

The sellers were still trying to flog programmes well after kickoff. Why would they bother given the club clearly doesn't need the money.

Needless to say when I pick premier division games to attend in Dublin I'll frequent clubs that have no problem taking my money. I've been to all the Pats home setanta and european games in the last few years and their editor has gone out of his way to thank me for my support eventhough he knows I support a rival club. My money has never been refused at any other club either.

God I wish Limerick were that rich .........................but not that arrogant.

I'd imagine its to stop "reselling" in the stands during the game.

Pat's programmes are "free", or rather, they force you to pay for one in the price of the ticket.

that must have been a very interesting meeting the night they dreamt that policy up. only in the eircom league

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

I'd imagine its to stop "reselling" in the stands during the game.

Pat's programmes are "free", or rather, they force you to pay for one in the price of the ticket.

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Pats actually charge if you want more than one. It's €3 each although they'll give them to you free after the game as they are normally plenty leftover. I've no problem with that. I wouldn't expect a club to give you 40 "free programmes" I've always found the club to be very generous.

Is reselling in the stands a big issue? I've never seen it myself happen. Even if it does why would the club care having got the full price anyway.

The cost in printing a programme is in the setup. Clubs should be able to guage how many they need and just print a few extra.

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Originally Posted by gspain

Is reselling in the stands a big issue? I've never seen it myself happen. Even if it does why would the club care having got the full price anyway.

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I don't know. I'm not saying it makes sense, but thats the only logical explanation i can come up with :)

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

I don't know. I'm not saying it makes sense, but thats the only logical explanation i can come up with :)

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I don't know and didn't get a reason.

I think it may be to stop selling on ebay as both Rhyl home and away sold well on ebay. A friend of mine sold quite a few of the home game on ebay. However I don't see a problem with this. Why don't Bohs sell their programme there then - Dundalk and Rovers have in the past among others.

Why does this never happen to us? The next time you are coming to Finn Park, let us know and we will arrange a red carpet and some loose women for you.:)

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Originally Posted by cheifo

Why does this never happen to us? The next time you are coming to Finn Park, let us know and we will arrange a red carpet and some loose women for you.:)

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POTM, one of the few posts on here that made me laugh out loud :D

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Originally Posted by cheifo

Why does this never happen to us? The next time you are coming to Finn Park, let us know and we will arrange a red carpet and some loose women for you.:)

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I know the county well and there is no loose women how dare you... except that one from derry but she does not count as she charges

Maybe they were afraid it was going to be a sell-out (it's happened before this season AFAIK) and they wanted to keep them for fans at the game rather than programme anoraks.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Maybe they were afraid it was going to be a sell-out (it's happened before this season AFAIK) and they wanted to keep them for fans at the game rather than programme anoraks.

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Would be a fair objective if this was the case. But as Gary has pointed out, he still ot ghis 40 programmes, so it didn't make any difference for Bohs to make it awkward for him.

If someone went into the club shop looking for 40 scarves, would you not let them on the basis that there mightened be any left for real fans ? A bird in the hand and all that - surely the sensible thing would be to take business when it appears, rather than speculate on what business might be just around the corner (and invariably do it wrongly).

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Originally Posted by gspain

Just back from Dalymount.

Amazed to see an Eircom League club so rich they can just turn away over 100 euro. I had orders from programme collectors and dealers for 46 programmes for tonight but Bohs would only sell me 10.

Apparently it is club policy. Wow I really wish Limerick were that rich that they'd turn away money like that. Are there any other premier division clubs in the same bracket? Certainly my money was never refused in any first division ground.

Despite protesting to the programme editor and 2 different sellers they stood firm.

I ended up having to get others to buy them for me as I'd already committed to buying these. One friend commented "it's a bit like the days of buying cigarettes for young fellas". In future I'll just tell them Bohs are too rich and don't want your money.

The sellers were still trying to flog programmes well after kickoff. Why would they bother given the club clearly doesn't need the money.

Needless to say when I pick premier division games to attend in Dublin I'll frequent clubs that have no problem taking my money. I've been to all the Pats home setanta and european games in the last few years and their editor has gone out of his way to thank me for my support eventhough he knows I support a rival club. My money has never been refused at any other club either.

God I wish Limerick were that rich .........................but not that arrogant.

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Thats the Celtic Tiger for you. :D

Can't be true this, must be a wind up. Funniest thing Ive heard in ages :D

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Would be a fair objective if this was the case. But as Gary has pointed out, he still ot ghis 40 programmes, so it didn't make any difference for Bohs to make it awkward for him.

If someone went into the club shop looking for 40 scarves, would you not let them on the basis that there mightened be any left for real fans ? A bird in the hand and all that - surely the sensible thing would be to take business when it appears, rather than speculate on what business might be just around the corner (and invariably do it wrongly).

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If there were only 44 scarves left, and there was a reasonable expectation, with other people in the queue, that they would be sold to individual supporters, then it would be be sensible to politely decline this signally rare offer, even at the risk of having a few left in stock afterwards. Core business is returning supporters, not one-off block purchasers in Limerick jerseys.

BTW, I lost my programme, so if Gary picked one up in the Jodi, can I have it back? :p

PS: anyone who wants to block-buy surplus Bohs programmes can do so by writing to web@bohemians.ie.

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Originally Posted by gspain

Just back from Dalymount.

Amazed to see an Eircom League club so rich they can just turn away over 100 euro. I had orders from programme collectors and dealers for 46 programmes for tonight but Bohs would only sell me 10.

Apparently it is club policy. Wow I really wish Limerick were that rich that they'd turn away money like that. Are there any other premier division clubs in the same bracket? Certainly my money was never refused in any first division ground.

Despite protesting to the programme editor and 2 different sellers they stood firm.

I ended up having to get others to buy them for me as I'd already committed to buying these. One friend commented "it's a bit like the days of buying cigarettes for young fellas". In future I'll just tell them Bohs are too rich and don't want your money.

The sellers were still trying to flog programmes well after kickoff. Why would they bother given the club clearly doesn't need the money.

Needless to say when I pick premier division games to attend in Dublin I'll frequent clubs that have no problem taking my money. I've been to all the Pats home setanta and european games in the last few years and their editor has gone out of his way to thank me for my support eventhough he knows I support a rival club. My money has never been refused at any other club either.

God I wish Limerick were that rich .........................but not that arrogant.

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Dont know whats more surprising. The fact that they wouldnt sell you the programmes or the fact that you had such demand for them:p

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Originally Posted by cheifo

Why does this never happen to us? The next time you are coming to Finn Park, let us know and we will arrange a red carpet and some loose women for you.:)

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Hope you realise that when they talk about women in Ballybofey.They are talking about the 4 legged kind.:)

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Originally Posted by Derry

Hope you realise that when they talk about women in Ballybofey.They are talking about the 4 legged kind.:)

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baabaara and ewenice will be waiting for ya

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Core business is returning supporters, not one-off block purchasers in Limerick jerseys

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Do you really think non availability of a programme will deter someone from buying one at the next game?

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

If there were only 44 scarves left, and there was a reasonable expectation, with other people in the queue, that they would be sold to individual supporters, then it would be be sensible to politely decline this signally rare offer, even at the risk of having a few left in stock afterwards. Core business is returning supporters, not one-off block purchasers in Limerick jerseys.

BTW, I lost my programme, so if Gary picked one up in the Jodi, can I have it back? :p

PS: anyone who wants to block-buy surplus Bohs programmes can do so by writing to web@bohemians.ie.

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There is a tradition of EL supporters going along to support other clubs (even rival clubs) in Europe.

Bohs printed 1200 programmes for the game. Now when you are printing at the level an extra 100 or 200 will cost very little. Underestimating by 200 costs €600 in lost sales not to mention opportunities for advertisers etc.

I reckon approx 80-100 programmes for any Irish euro home game will end up with collectors here and the UK. Many of them may never have seen Bohs play but it does promote your club and your advertisers not to mind if those people are in dublin they are more likely to go and see a name they know.

Had Bohs gone through or if Bohs are in Europe next year. I'll be informing the UK dealers I got them for that I won't be able to get them Bohs programmes. I do it as a favour on a cost recovery basis and they don't make a fortune on the programmes either (roughly £1 each) rather do it as a service to their customers. It may even lead to them not bothering doing any Irish euro homes.

There is no way I'd do again what I had to do on saturday which is hide around the corner and ask people I know to buy programmes for me. I haven't heard yet how others got on. There was at least one other person who would also have been trying to buy 40-50 programmes.

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Originally Posted by gspain

Had Bohs gone through or if Bohs are in Europe next year. I'll be informing the UK dealers I got them for that I won't be able to get them Bohs programmes. .

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Sound to me like you prefer it that way, so that you can have your whinge/polish your halo which, if you don't mind my saying so, actually is very eL.
As I said, UK dealers or anyone else who wants to block-buy a programme can do so by emailing web@bohemians.ie. No need for martyrdom or 'hiding around corners'. If it's surplus stock, and therefore not risking depriving actual match-goers of a programme, you'll find Bohs as willing to take money for them as anyone else.

people here really have very little to worry about. So you and your buddies didnt get a few programmes the way you would have liked. Heres some advice. Deal with it and move on - a decision was made rightly or wrongly. No need to cry over it to your foot.ie buddies.

And it sounds like will only miss out on this valuable money every home European game. Should cost us roughly 40-80 of your (and your UK dealers who you admit dont actually care about the league and look to make profit off them) euros on a bad Euro campaign, 120-160 on a good one. Forgive me if i dont worry too much.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

people here really have very little to worry about. So you and your buddies didnt get a few programmes the way you would have liked. Heres some advice. Deal with it and move on - a decision was made rightly or wrongly. No need to cry over it to your foot.ie buddies.

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Wow. I thought we drowned these ones at birth.

maybe i was the one that got away, John. A jesus-like escape so i can spread the word of the football Lord.

I have no sympathy for the middle man for some random english guys who dont know f-all about my club or the league and are looking to make a profit (however small) off Bohemians' programmes. I dont know whats so wrong about that.

As BohDiddley has pointed out TWICE now, the programmes are available to ANYONE by emailing the club directly. Yet people still want to have a good aul moan. Zzzzzzz....

I just wanting to thank everyone on this thread for causing me to wake up sweating in the middle of the night after dreaming of Gerry Cuffe gyrating grotesquely in a leotard whilst singing "Dont'cha wish your club was rich like Bohs." I'm off to St. Vincent's for therapy.

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

I just wanting to thank everyone on this thread for causing me to wake up sweating in the middle of the night after dreaming of Gerry Cuffe gyrating grotesquely in a leotard whilst singing "Dont'cha wish your club was rich like Bohs." I'm off to St. Vincent's for therapy.

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enjoy your stay.get well soon;)

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

I just wanting to thank everyone on this thread for causing me to wake up sweating in the middle of the night after dreaming of Gerry Cuffe gyrating grotesquely in a leotard whilst singing "Dont'cha wish your club was rich like Bohs." I'm off to St. Vincent's for therapy.

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Whatever floats yer boat!
Sometimes I think a lot of the Bohs-related commentary here on foot.ie says more about the poster than about BFC. In this case, I think there's little room for doubt.

I'm not just having a go at Bohs. I think the club have some very good ideas such as offering the bar to visiting supporters at Setanta Cup games in Tolka and Inchicore.

The programmes are not available by emailing Bohs. They are only available after the game IF not sold on the night. Why don't the club sell their programmes on ebay or through the website if they are so concerned re cutting out the middleman? I've seen at least Dundalk and Rovers both selling merchandise on ebay.

It may only be a few of hundred euro however any EL club that makes a decision to turn away revenue should be questioning themselves.

Anyway I just hope no other club decides to copy your idea.

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Originally Posted by gspain

The programmes are not available by emailing Bohs.

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That quite simply is not true.
As I said, if there are surplus copies, and someone wants to block-buy them, that can be done via email. If they are available, they'll be sold. If they're not, the club is not out of pocket.
The ebay idea is a possibility, and we have thought about putting multiple-copy offers on the online shop, but TBH there isn't exactly a clamour for them.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

That quite simply is not true.
As I said, if there are surplus copies, and someone wants to block-buy them, that can be done via email. If they are available, they'll be sold. If they're not, the club is not out of pocket.
The ebay idea is a possibility, and we have thought about putting multiple-copy offers on the online shop, but TBH there isn't exactly a clamour for them.

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My point is that you cannot guarantee a programme for a Bohs home game now without going to the match.

Yes I'm sure you'll sell leftover copies to anybody that wants them. I've no doubt there isn't exactly a clamour for them as you state. I think you'd be better off keeping a few of each and giving the rest out to local schools. I'm sure Four Star pizza for example would like that.

By all means insist on orders a week in advance or ask for payment up front but you need to honour these then whether it sells out or not.

Some eL clubs are great for putting aside programmes, some are terrible mainly through being too busy or forgetful or just incompetent. I don't like it but wouldn't come on here slagging them off. However to make a conscious decision to turn away revenue and an opportunity to promote your club is unforgivable. I can name plenty of clubs that could mess up a pre-order of programmes (including many previous regimes at Limerick) but none in any league that would refuse them.

But you didn't pre-order.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

But you didn't pre-order.

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I didn't but would gladly do so in the future. I was the first person over to the sellers. I'm told that is not possible unless the policy changes. I had to go up to Dalyer to buy tickets last week anyway.

Bray have received a pre-order of 150 programmes for their friendly with Leeds on Sunday. The programmes are €5 each. I was talking to the editor last night and he was thrilled. It's not just about the money he has made for his club. He takes a lot of pride in producing a quality issue (as do Bohs btw). many of those that end up buying it won't know or care too mauch about Irish football. Some will probably not have even heard of Bray Wanderers. I'm sure without even having seen the programme yet that they'll have a very positive image of the club. If Bohs play Leeds you'd tell the same guy thanks but come talk to us after the game and if there are any left we'll gladly sell them to you. :confused:

Not if they're ordered in advance and can be planned for. Name me any scheduled Bohs game, before the print run is set, for which you want 150 copies, and I'll contact the editor and organize an invoice for you.

But if someone turns up at a match during which the main gates have to be opened to cope with an unexpected late rush, and asks for 150 that otherwise would go to someone actually at the match, looking to read teamsheets and previews, and says they're for people who maybe have never heard of the club and are unlikely ever to darken a Dalymount turnstyle, then I'd say they'd come a poor second.

That would be the case at most clubs, unless they are into vanity publishing and are thrilled to pieces at having their programmes bought by people who are far away.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Not if they're ordered in advance and can be planned for. Name me any scheduled Bohs game, before the print run is set, for which you want 150 copies, and I'll contact the editor and organize an invoice for you.

But if someone turns up at a match during which the main gates have to be opened to cope with an unexpected late rush, and asks for 150 that otherwise would go to someone actually at the match, looking to read teamsheets and previews, and says they're for people who maybe have never heard of the club and are unlikely ever to darken a Dalymount turnstyle, then I'd say they'd come a poor second.

That would be the case at most clubs, unless they are into vanity publishing and are thrilled to pieces at having their programmes bought by people who are far away.

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I hope the same applies to 40 or 50 because if it does I will take you up on it. I tried to clear it up with a member of your committe last night (just before he bought 20 programmes at UCD v Dundee United :D) and he was adamant that you are not doing pre-orders. It is club policy.

I'd be quite happy to order and pay a week or more in advance once I can also COLLECT BEFORE the game and not rely on the programme not selling out on the night.

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Originally Posted by gspain

I hope the same applies to 40 or 50 because if it does I will take you up on it. I tried to clear it up with a member of your committe last night (just before he bought 20 programmes at UCD v Dundee United :D) and he was adamant that you are not doing pre-orders. It is club policy.

I'd be quite happy to order and pay a week or more in advance once I can also COLLECT BEFORE the game and not rely on the programme not selling out on the night.

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Ì think I know many LoI fans who given the opportunity would wish to have the similar attendance as the Limerick team.


I wish there is not a problem and that the UCD Bowl would be a light for everyone to see and that the culprits would be caught.

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Originally Posted by gspain

I hope the same applies to 40 or 50 because if it does I will take you up on it.

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Tell me what game you want.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Tell me what game you want.

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Will pm you closer to the games. Any Setanta Cup games (assuming you qualify), friendlies and european homes. Numbers will vary depending on the opposition.