Have the FAI booked Thomond Park yet?
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Have the FAI booked Thomond Park yet?
:rolleyes: x 1,000
Good man a face, can always depend on you
Feck that - Im not a Dub, but keep it in Dublin
1. Because it's the capital?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
2. Because it has the biggest population.
3. Because it has the best transport links.
4. Because it has more Eircom League clubs than any other city.
5. Because it has more Eircom League supporters than any other city.
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Originally Posted by niallsparky
There is what's wrong with soccer in Ireland all confined within those 5 points.
ffs it would be beneficial for the FAI to spread the game across the country how about once every 2 years or so is played outside Dublin?
As for point 3 the best transport links, what a joke. The LUAS is the only good thing about Dublin at the mo. For a capital city, it is a hellhole.
An increasing proportion of the population is based in the state's capital, that's a reality that football's governing body can do nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5ForKeeps
As above, the largest chunk of the country's population live in Dublin and its commutter belt, there's only so much spreading you can do outside it to have a viable club to population ratio.Quote:
ffs it would be beneficial for the FAI to spread the game across the country how about once every 2 years or so is played outside Dublin?
So you know somewhere in Ireland that's better connected to most points in the country?Quote:
As for point 3 the best transport links, what a joke. The LUAS is the only good thing about Dublin at the mo. For a capital city, it is a hellhole.
5 Dublin clubs last season acording to Foot.ie attendance guide averaged 7100 between then per home game.
2 Cork clubs averaged 3578.
I would say there is a better support for EL in Cork.
Thomond could be a great idea, bit of a novelty factor and may attract a lot more neutrals than a Dublin final would. Certainly it would do no harm, to give it a go.
AFAIK the seating capcity in the RDS is higher than what Thomond's will be.
There're also putting a roof on the seating opposite the grandstand in the RDS which is only good.
He didn't mentioned proportionally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
If the final is Derry v Sligo, logistically getting to Limerick is a nightmare. The real reason is transport
N18 by road, Also served by air and rail. I live in Dublin and most dubs I speak to never seem to leave the dublin area. Theres another 31 counties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by Dodge
I assumed that would be undersood.
Maybe wait till the semi final stages to name the venue for the final.
Thomond will hold 26,000 when complete compared to RDS 20,000 approx.
Ideally, we would have a few stadiums around the country which are capable of holding a Cup final, and are easily accessible no matter which teams qualify for the final.
Unfortunately, that's just not the case, and is nowhere close to being the case.
If it is possible to choose a stadium to host the cup final after the finalists have been decided, then stadiums in cities other than Dublin would be an option. A Galway - Cork final could be relatively easily held in Limerick, for example. But if the stadium needs to be chosen well in advance, Dublin is the only realistic option.
Care to tell me how I can get from Sligo to Linerick by train?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Oh and I'm one of the dubs that travel the country to watch football.
You get the train from Sligo to Dublin Connolly, get the Luas from there to Heuston, then get another train from Heuston to Limerick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Some people... :rolleyes:
Galway in a final?? I'll see pigs fly first id say!!! :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
How dare i suggest moving it from Dublin, how dare i ... shame on me, what was i thinking ?? :rolleyes: x 1,001Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
And your point is what exactly? I dont know does anyone even care about the capital anymore, maybe a couple of decades ago for an older generation but not now. What difference does it make? I dunno what point your making but how about this, have it in Athlone because its the centre of the country? How can you possibly object to that?Quote:
Originally Posted by niallsparky
And you point is? Will the population of Dublin be going to the final will they? How should this have an impact on where the final is held? If they are all so intent on go to the final cant they travel 1.5 hrs down the road to Limerick?Quote:
2. Because it has the biggest population.
Last year when City were in the final 80% of fans travelled by hired coach, if there is a road to Limerick then there is no reason not to hold there. That leaves us with the question 'Is there a road to Limerick?' The M50 is aQuote:
3. Because it has the best transport links.
basketcase study on how not to manage traffic and you want everyone to travel up to it. Get a grip
And they'll all be in the final so yeah, all eight of them, good man, excellent point there :rolleyes:Quote:
4. Because it has more Eircom League clubs than any other city.
And they'll all go to the final so yeah? How can you say that will be the case. Last year, Longford and City in the Final, how many Dubs were there? Ball park figure, just to get an idea like?Quote:
5. Because it has more Eircom League supporters than any other city.
Clutching at straws Dodge, You drive from Sligo to Limerick ... check it out on the map there for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
In case you hadn't noticed we're in a semi finalQuote:
Originally Posted by Allstar
JC got the point, a face didn't.
I never mentioned rail, kingdom did. As the only Limerick man to post on this, have a read of osarusan' post. Might be too sensible for most here though
There are plenty of reasons for having it in Dublin, and as far as I can see the only reason to not have it in Dublin is, eh, to not have it in Dublin.
HA ! As bad as or cup history is, i believe we stand better than your own club! Care to tell me your cup history? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Allstar
It's a daft uidea taking the final out of Dublin.
It should only be considered if it's a pairing of two teams geographically far form Dublin yet close to each other : e.g City v Harps, Sligo v Galway etc.
Thomond Park would be damaging to the Final as a location, unless it involved two teams from Munster.
GUFC have been in 2 FAI Cup Finals and 3 League Cup Finals in the last three decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allstar
No Dodge, JC agreed with your opinion and i didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I dont care who mentioned rail, because i already said that the majority of fans would travel via hired coach. Of course you can pick the most protracted route to somewhere and hold that up as a point against, but i'll discredit it and tell you that no one picks a route to complete a journey that is the longest path/hardest path, Dykstra would turn in his grave if you did.Quote:
I never mentioned rail, kingdom did. As the only Limerick man to post on this, have a read of osarusan' post. Might be too sensible for most here though
I was on about Thomand Park ..... not the moon. Its a small island Dodge with every place being fairly accessible, no journey is insurmountable. Ye are clutching at straws in my opinion.
No again, you can name loads of reasons and i'd argue aganist it if the point doesn't hold up, and to date i haven't seen a point that does. What are these other reasons you mention. Are you afraid of change Dodge, is that the real reason behind this?Quote:
There are plenty of reasons for having it in Dublin, and as far as I can see the only reason to not have it in Dublin is, eh, to not have it in Dublin.
Do me a favour, answer this ...Why should it be outside of Dublin?Why shouldn't it be in Limerick?
Why so? seriously why so.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I would have thought having it is a world class stadium would be far better than that crumbly kip that is the RDS.
I dont see anyone arguing against that funnily enough? Why? Because you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, Thomond Park WILL BE the best stadium for the final at that time. It SHOULD be held there if possible.
It is a brand new stadium, with brilliant stands and facilities.
It will have the most up to date media facilities.
It is serviced by an airport, train station and good roads that have never posed a problem in the past.
It is a ground that is well used to holding events of this size over the last 10 years or so.
I'll go if it's in Dublin, but I won't be travelling an hour and a half if the Blues aren't in it. I'd imagine that many other neutrals will be in the same position.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
I think Thomond is a viable option as only in Ireland would thew RDS be considered a good facility. Three uncovered temporary stands in November. :eek:
I am not even sure if attendance would be any worse for two Dublin clubs as numbers will be low for the RDS anyway.
Latest pictures of Thomond
Thats my point, there would be very few people attend a game if their club isn't in it. There could be 2,368 clubs in Dublin and there still will only be two clubs in the final, unless they change the rules beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
Name them. What are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Thomond Park is a good stadium, granted, but it's not the only option.
The only reason I can see is to give fans outside Dublin a chance to have a cup final in their area.
and that's why God created the Munster Senior Cup
Honest to god, the inferiority complex from the Langers on here is embarrassing.
Where else? Can you name possible groundsQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Ah no, what about having it in a World Class Stadium? Is that not enough reason. Sheeze people who are saying 'Dublin or nothing' aren't giving us much reason to credit them with a response.Quote:
The only reason I can see is to give fans outside Dublin a chance to have a cup final in their area.
No, not the MSC anymore .... its the CCFCSC, its our cup ... we just let others have it every now and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
That would be superiority complex, you know how it works dont you .... it better therefore its superior. You should have paid more attention in school instead of just looking out the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by skitz3
Still no valid credible plausible reason to have it anywhere other than Thomond.
Why Dublin? I dunno do you have to say it out load over and over to yourself or what but some people need to put in an extra special effort on this one. When you are asked a question ...... what comes next ...... come on ..... you can do it, i know you can .... i have great faith in you ..... what comes next .... YES, the answer. We'll give it a go shall we?
Why Dublin? Why not somewhere better .... like Thomond?
I have changed my mind. The cost of staging a final in Limerick with Dublin teams would be prohibitive as would need to supply Sat Nav to all those traveling.
Or they could stick the ball up their jumper saying 'its my ball and i'm not playing' and none of them leave the pale. Talk about not getting outside your comfort zone, and to be fair, with that in mind it could be a great learning experience for the DubsQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
"Anto, wha daya meaon wez goin fur-thar? My mate Deco sez da if yez go too far down da Naaser [dual carriageway] da yez fall aff de edge of da worald n'all. He sez da his mate Grego, Stevo, Trevo and Sparrow went out dar woune and wear never seen again" :eek:
We could all call a truce and hold the final in Lissywoolen.:D
Perfect for Thomond Park?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
It'd only make sense if at least one of the clubs is from Munster, otherwise it's a stupid idea. Unless it's all been lies about public transport links in the west the whole time - no need for a western rail corridor, no need for a western motorway etc etc.
There are a lot more uncovered spots in Thomond than the RDS.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
The two stadia are of similar size and facilities. It'd be nice for me if the game was held in the one I can walk to from home but I didn't go last year and probably won't go this year so i won't get myself worked up about it.
Nonsense, look at the map, Galway Waterford, Athlone, Longford, Kildare, all the Dublin clubs can all get to it grand, Sligo, Harps and Derry would have a bit further to go but worth it for a World Class StadiumQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
No there isn't, last year we got soaked. Ask any of us that were there last year do we want to have the same again this year. We want to go to a proper stadium, like Thomond this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
No they're not ....Quote:
The two stadia are of similar size and facilities.
Thomond -> 26,000 - 17,000 seated and covered
Royal Dublin Society -> 18,000 -> all seater, 8050 covered
Thomond has two terraces at each goal as well, which is great for a cup final.
Exactly my point, why are Dublin fans getting worked up when there is only a chance of two clubs getting there. The rest wont bother, same as last year.Quote:
It'd be nice for me if the game was held in the one I can walk to from home but I didn't go last year and probably won't go this year so i won't get myself worked up about it.
There's a roof on the 2 main stands in the RDS now* and whether you get soaked in the goal end stands with no roof depends entirely on whether it rains. It's not in any way logical to say that you got soaked at a match in Dublin so therefore the uncovered terrace in Limerick will be much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Also, the RDS has 2 small terraces which the FAI had closed on the day of the FAI Cup. I presume this was to make the place look fuller but that's only a guess.
*When I say 'now' I mean after the horse show when the stand is put back up.
I'm telling you now, it's alot easier to get from Longford and Athlone to Dublin than it is to get to Limerick (and I know people that would've commutted weekly to Limerick from Longford). I can't believe the quality of the stadium would make it worth the hassle for Sligo, Harps or Derry either.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Like it or not, every club's fan base at cup finals is bolstered by part timers - why would you make it harder for these people to go to the match? Why would it be better to have it in a better, but even emptier stadium? The overriding factor is ease of access, not quality of stadium. Biggest problem for the cup final is the timing, not the stadium.