Lads,
with Bohs starting out in the intertobob cup on saturday - how are we fix in the co-efficient and does points being handed out with this game on saturday?
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Lads,
with Bohs starting out in the intertobob cup on saturday - how are we fix in the co-efficient and does points being handed out with this game on saturday?
There are no points for InterToto games. If Bohs were to 'win' the InterToto, their subsequent UEFA Cup games would be elligible for points.
There's a thread in here somewhere about seedings that has co-efficient information.
Can you bring that page up here Schumi please!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Use the search function.
Ok we are ranked 35th placed country out of 53 - and we lose 0.333 from 5 years ago - surely we can get more than that this year - maybe a full 1.0 point? :eek:
It will be difficult this year with city and pats both unseeded they could face some tricky ties like man city or brondby. It could be up to Drogs to add to the co-efficent
On the other hand could get a team seeded just above them which they could beat. Lots of teams there are beatable, it's all down to the draw. Number of beatable teams in the next round too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevincronin2000
Drogs should make it into second round, looks very tough after that.
Here is the thread - probably best to keep it all in there.
So with Bohs into the second round (surely) what are their chances against the Iceland team? whatever they call :D
A general discussion thread about EL teams in Europe.
The UEFA cup and Champions league draw takes place on the 01 July which more than likely means a trip for Cork City, Drogheda and St Pats to eastern or southern Europe.
Obviously hoping for a good draw for Cork City but for the other teams too. English opposition in the third round UEFA cup would be great for an EL team, providing they get to the third round.
German or English draws would also be huge money spinners in terms of TV rights.
A trip to Luxembourg, Malta, Faros, Wales, or the Balkans would be fine logistically. It’s the nightmare journeys for the team and fans to places like Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan.
Congrats too, to Bohs. 5 – 1 on Saturday night. Let’s hope ye can do the same this weekend and carry that momentum into the next round.
Fylkir. They should win their tie now as they have two away goals. Bohs have a good chance of beating them especially as Bohs are playing away first.Quote:
Originally Posted by swinfordfc
If they get to the third round they'll play either Elfsborg of Sweden or Hibs. I think Elfsborg could surprise Hibs and their extra match fitness could prove decisive in that tie.
Elfsborg are useful enough but their results in the last year and half have been up and down. Linfield tested them last year in the Champions League qualifiers. If I remember correctly Linfield nearly got a late away goal that would have sent them through to the next round.
All in all, I think Bohs have a reasonable chance of getting into the UEFA Cup proper.
should beat the eskimoes. cant be losing to icelandic teams these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by swinfordfc
cork city are best suited to european football i think. hope bohs beat rhyl again to compound the result. looking forward to the draws.
Is the UEFA Cup not drawn on a regional basis in the early rounds?Quote:
The UEFA cup and Champions league draw takes place on the 01 July which more than likely means a trip for Cork City, Drogheda and St Pats to eastern or southern Europe.
It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HolylandsMan
when you look back to what shels achieved a few years ago - might be a while before we get that close again.
Correct - City and Pats are likely to be facing Baltic or Scandinavian teams in the first round. Not too sure about Drogheda but I'd imagine they face a similar situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Drogheda could be anywhere in Europe - the CL is an open draw from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambaiste!
this is who pats/cork can play
Seeded teams coef.
Manchester City Eng 30.996
FC København Den 23.748
Brøndby IF Den 18.748
Viking Stavanger Nor 12.400
FC Midtjylland Den 6.748
FC Nordsjælland Den 6.748
Djurgårdens IF Swe 6.518
Kalmar FF Swe 4.518
Haka Valkeakoski Fin 3.176
Honka Espoo Fin 3.176
FH Hafnarfjardar Isl 2.980
Metalurgs Liepaja Lat 2.915
JFK Olimps Riga Lat 2.915
Suduva Marijampole Lit 2.640
JC had a post here with all the possible teams that can be drawn.
Finland, Iceland, Latvia and Lithuania should be beatable. Sweden wouldn't be too bad either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
iceland would be best id say, then finland
Collective shuddering among the "eskimo" population of Iceland there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
That really shows the difference between being seeded & unseeded - Drogs look like they should pick up a win & draw at least against most of those 1st round teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
where as Pats & Cork could both do well to get a draw each if they came up against ManCity/Brondby/Copenhagen & will have to hope to both get Finland/Iceland/Lat/Lit to have realistic hopes of progression (IMO)
Fingers crossed for the draw:ball:
BTW, should this thread be 'stickied' ?
- we can use it to discuss all eLoI involvement in Europe for the duration of (our involvement)
i do love bjork if that helps ? always didQuote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
Ah didnt get this much info. Think it would be nice to avoid Eng/Den/Swe in the first round at least. Man City/portsmouth, Villa (via intertoto) etc would be class to get in the 2nd or last roundQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Nor DrogsQuote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
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Originally Posted by Duggie
Ummmmmmmm. IFKGoteborg 0 Derry City 1
Derry City 1 IFK Goteborg 0
Gretna 1 Derry City 5
Derry City2 Gretna 2
Derry City 0 PSG 0
psg 2 Derry City 0
Who I want City to get. Balancing travel with chances of progression.
Travel: IdealQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Very little chance
Travel: OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Unlikely
Travel: OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Unlikely
Travel: OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Tough
Travel: OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Tough
Travel: OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Tough
Travel: No thanks, Sick of SwedenQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Tough-no element of surprise
Travel: No thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Tough
Travel:OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Good
Travel:OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: Good
Travel: DisasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: V. Good
Travel:Yes pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: V. Good
Travel:OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Progression: V. Good
Ranking:
1) Riga
2) Metalurgs
3/4)Finland(either team)
5)Iceland :(
6) Norway
7)Kalmar
8) Djurgarden
9/10) Nordsjælland/FC Midtjylland
11) Man City
12/13) Copenhagen/Brondby
Not anymore I don't think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
I could see City losing any of their possible first ties. Even the Lithuanians would probably play a better possession game than us.
Pats and Drogs I reckon should do well while Bohs have a pretty easy path.
Its the first season I've been very nervous before Europe. Wouldn't guarantee we'd beat anyone and a few of those teams could hammer us.
Does anyone have the league schedule of these countries.
Winter league teams would be easier to challange than summer teams for obvious reasons.
As far as I remember Finland play a summer season?
Thats just what I was thinking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
We've now had 4 years in a row of decent results in Europe (I know last year was the worst of the 4, but that was expected after the implosion of Shels), our rankings have consistently improved, but some people still haven't noticed:rolleyes:
Sure, when one of our teams does make that breakthrough into the group stages I'm sure it will be not enough for many begrudgers - if it is the UEFA groups they will belittle the competition, if it's the CL they will jump on ANY bad result to say that we shouldn't be there.
Whatever! (as my kids say)
The main problem has been that the best results havnt been against teams they know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuanaD
Take the examples of when we have gotten well known teams.
Derry managed to take their season ticket holders to 1600ish because of PSG, Shels got 25k agaisnt deportivo and we sold out the red-star game in 6 hours.
Are they coming back after the one game? No. But if you made the group stages and had 3 games at home against recognisable teams maybe you'd have a better shot. If they got into the habit of going to games regularly even for a few weeks they might come back rather than it just being a once off
Only Danish teams and Man City play Winter Football in the list you can play.Quote:
Originally Posted by pateen
I agree - from the coefficient point of view though, it could be a disaster if they were to make it to the UEFA Cup proper - the sum of our coefficient points would then be divided by 4 instead of by 3. Given that the Intertoto Cup teams go into the 2nd qualifying round, it'd mean that our points could well take a big hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
However, Bohs beating Hibs in the final round of the competition would arguably do more for the public perception of the league than all the EL teams winning their first round ties.
Who do Bohs play in the next round of the Intertoto?
Either Flykir of Iceland or Riga of Latvia. Probably Flykir because they won 2-1 away in the 1st leg. Bohs won 4-2 away today.
You should get past an Icelandic team. Is it Hibs or some Swedish team after that then?Quote:
Originally Posted by niallsparky