just came across this and am wondering if its true, has anyone else heard?
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/news/lo...TMNW&id=393575
I would find it hard to believe he would retire in the middle of a campaign if we are going well and he has been playing
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just came across this and am wondering if its true, has anyone else heard?
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/news/lo...TMNW&id=393575
I would find it hard to believe he would retire in the middle of a campaign if we are going well and he has been playing
He always gave 100% but i dont think he'll get a look in anymore anyway so he might aswell retire
Good old Zinedine Kilbane! I always liked watching him play.
I think he's always been good for Ireland. His crossing is ****, but he uses '' the cow'' to good effect.
at least he tried and always committed unlike some others!
I remember before the 2002 World Cup reading his profile on the FIFA website:
"Pace and endevour make up for lack of any real talent."
I hope he doesn't retire.
If the whole Ireland team played with as much heart and passion as Kilbane then we would be after winning the World Cup and European Championships numerous times by now.
He is an asset to Trappatoni's squad and a player I would love to see break the 100 cap barrier for Ireland.
One of the few players in the squad who sings the anthem before the games and he's lived in England all his life and had never spoke a word of Irish in his life and he still went away to learn the anthem before he played his 1st game for Ireland to make him feel as if he belonged.
Thats the sort of pride and passion you want in an international squad.
A great player who will be a huge loss when he retires. Which is a few years away.....I hope!
Kilbane may be born in England but he is most definitely Irish and always has been. Don`t put him in the same plastic paddy category that alot of our other players are inQuote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Great post rambler14
I hope he stays on too
The headline in Ireland Mad is a statement not a question.
"Kilbane will retire"
of course he will, one day.
I for one will not go back to that site voluntarily.
There is no article on the Wigan Observer sports page,
If there is and its just not online, the quote looks to be just about the friendly games and training camp.
"A lot of people know my situation its tough being away from the wife and kids, the big thing from my point of view is they have got to come first."
"I know its part and parcel of the job and my wife has been nothing but supportive but there comes a time when you think 'give the youngsters a chance` they are going to get more games than me anyways.
"It would have been difficult being away for that length of time over the summer when I should really be on a break with my family."
Somewhere else it was reported not quoted, that Kilbane would retire from Internationals at the end of next season.
Why wouldn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
He was one of our most consistent performers and always gave 100%. Hes had a very good season with Wigan in the premiership at left back. McShane and O'Shea struggled whenever they played and Delaney is an average Div 2 left back.
So as you can see I find it hard to understand your point of view. Better than the average Irish player
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Originally Posted by finnpark
You obviously have not seen him play very often if you are looking for him in Div 2.
I've only seen one or two Wigan games this season, but when he's played left back for Ireland he's generally been quite poor. His positioning for a left back is woeful and it's probably the most important attribute for a left back. He always tucks in beside the centre backs and I'd much prefer to see Delaney given a chance because of Kilbane's weaknesses in that position. Judging by Saturday, Delaney should start the qualifiers for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
did he really play that well last sat? i think we are wanting him to have played well as its a problem position for us but i think if someone with 10 caps to their name had played like he did on sat we would be a bit more critical. most of serbias goal was down to mcshane but delaney was also at fault. kilbane to me would be a far better option at left backQuote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
I agree that he has shown great drive and commitment and has been an asset to the team. I would say that if he feels that going it is at least honest of him to say so and step aside. I'd rather that than someone who just turns up (John O'Shea!)
I don't think he played really well. He had a "solid" debut. He didn't do too much wrong, and he didn't light up the game either. Steve Finnan rarely sets the game alight for us, but he does little wrong in most games, so if Delaney were like that he should be first choice IMO. Had Kilbane been playing in that position I think he would have given the full back far too much space and wouldn have made it a much more difficult job than Delaney did. Just by being in the correct position without doing anything else Delaney showed he was competent enough to be seriously considered for the position which I think is the weakest in our team.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I'm not trying to make him out to be a saviour for us and he may well have a nightmare tonight or in the future should he play for us in the qualifiers, but I just think he should be tried out up until the qualifiers to see if he's good enough.
I don't get "The Cow" reference???Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
I expect he is the only one who does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life
I'm not familiar with that language but could it be in anyway related to
getting a good return from milking his only trick?
John O'Shea should be centre-back with Dunne and Kelly and Delaney should be full backs thats if Finnan doesn't come back of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
I'm undecided about whether Kilabane should be a defender or midfielder.
denial on fai.ie: http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=3230
Thanks for that tetsujin1979 I help with the board that the original story on here came from. I pulled the story down when I realised the source had misquoted Killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Geysir I read your comments and you were right to say what you said. I thought the source on the Wigan board where I got the story knew what he was talking about ah well
good on you killer!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
love him or loathe him, a man with his level of experience is essential in our squad, more now than ever.
As has been said will always give 100% (a minimum requirement, I accept) and is more capable than alot give him credit for (for some reason the midfield perfromance in the stade de france stands out as I type this). Even if a backup - he would be reliable.
Legend. One of the last remaining of the mccarthy era where hunger and pride over talent got us to a world cup.
We could make a team from the leftovers of McCarthy era who are still standing.
Given,
Finnan, Dunne, OShea, Harte;
Duff, Carsley, Healy, Kilbane;
Keane, Morrison;
It might not be a great team but it would be a team.
Take out Healy and you've got a still-decent team. Might have to drop Harte as well! Everyone else there is still a decent Premiership player, bar maybe Morrison.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Swop Kilbane for Harte and you might even have the back 5 for GeorgiaQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
And you will probably have Duff, Carsley and Keane strarting as well,
So potentially 8 from the McCarthy era, and they could well be the backbone of qualification, definitley reckon all 8 will play a major part of the group stages, so where did it all go wrong under Kerr and Staunton
Ps no need to answer we all know what went wrong!
Legend I doubt it I've never seen a more frustrating player EVER for Ireland. Must he lose the ball and run into the full-back time and again when playing on the wing. He is not a fullback and cannot defend nor position himself which was shown in his last qualifying matches for us. I think at the most he deserved 5 caps. He's awful. I've never disliked an Irish player more and will be glad if he just got on his bike and let a proper defender take his place.Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
what a load of rubbishQuote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
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Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
I misunderstood the thread title!
He should "Re-tyre" and get on his bike and let a proper defender take his place.
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Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
How many of Kilbanes games for Ireland did you actually see?
He is one of of our most consistent players, while never a regualr contender for MOTM he's always a steady performer, maybe the fact that he doesn't shirk from responsibilty he is more noticable then someone who goes missing for 89 minutes like SI
kevin kilbane has done many different roles for ireland and i have never heard any complaints from him.He always gives his best and is a great team player.Football is a team sport and the best people to ask about kevins contribution is his fellow professionals.I believe that he would get the thumbs up from them everytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
So you prefer Stephen Ireland to him? He's a limited player but if every player in our squad had his attitude and commitment our players wouldn't be on holiday right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
Just because I've a different view on a very poor quality player it's rubbish? How he got past 10 caps beggers belief and how he bottled it so many times(eno vs Spain, missing open goals). I've seen him play in ALL his pathetic displays since his debut in Iceland. There is giving it 100% and there is blindly picking a chap that cannot play football. He was pathetic against San Marino(A bunch of part-timers) in the last game at Lansdowne. Some of you just tow the party line and are happy with a lad giving it 100% and doing nothing. For a chap with 80 odd caps he doesn't have many goals or assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Where did I mention Stephen Ireland who although has the skill and goals in him is never going to play for us again. I have never wanted Kilbane in an Irish shirt as he lacks the skill at international level. As a person he's a nice lad and Yes he's 100% but that hasn't helped us qualify for very much. I said I hated him as a player and I'm sure there are others who agree everytime he gives the ball away.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
it just gets better :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
Or you just haven't the sufficient brainpower to answer and just post a little smiley to make you feel goodQuote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
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Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
In fairness he's right, I can only assume that despite what you say you've not really watched many Ireland games over the last 10 years if you have that low an opinion of Kilbane. He's not spectacular by any stretch but is far better then he's given credit for. Any Everton fan would agree, he was hugely popular playing for them.
His good games for Ireland far outweigh his bad and he fully deserved his player of the year award for us a few years back. Think he won it at Everton at least once as well. Kilbane has completely made the most of his talents and has one of the best attitudes of any Irish player of the last decade. As has been pointed out the fact that he never hides means any mistakes he makes are more noticable but even then those mistakes are far fewer then some would have you believe.
Funny that Shamrock Ireland. I would have thought Steve Bruce would know more than you.....
He's played for numerous different Premiership clubs which would suggest that he can "play football". I think he's limited as a player and I don't think he's good enough to start for us any more but he has some good qualities.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
You'd want to look at some of the other player's performances away to San Marino when he was one of our best players on that night. As for him being a player who doesn't have many goals or assists, he was the player in the last campaign with the most of the two combined and he's done well in this regard in previous campaigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
You said that you've never disliked any Irish player more than Kevin Kilbane. You're entitled to your opinion but I personally think that Kilbane is far more likeable than Stephen Ireland who has generally been quite lazy for us on the pitch so far and who clearly doesn't think the most of playing for our country.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland
As I said, I'm not a massive fan of Kevin Kilbane and think that there have often been better options available but when he goes on the pitch he gives his utmost for us. That alone should give him your respect instead of you insulting him.