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I am sure I will be accused of a wind up but here goes anyway...
Does any one else see him as the most insecure manager? In almost every interview he seems to feel he has to defend himself & have a cut of unknown forces.
I would have thought once he won the league he would be more secure...
As opposed to Alan 'We've got great players' Matthews?:p
lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by D.U.F.C Daire
It's like anything Pete - they're all out to get him! ;)
Or Tony 'I'm delighted with the character the lads are showing' Cousins?Quote:
Originally Posted by D.U.F.C Daire
In fairness to Pete, Doolin's been like that for a while now. Even when they won the league he had a chip on his shoulder about it.
Doolin is like that because he feels like the team is constantly being criticised for one thing or another .Hes won four trophies in a short space of time and we are still constantly slagged off for spending money ,for defensive tactics etc .Weve lost one game and the negativity by the media is ridiculous . Weve upset the established football elite in this country and they dont like it :D
There is no football elite. The biggest clubs in the country are Rovers and Dundalk and they've been in the doldrums for years.
And Drogheda have spent tons of money, and do play defensive football. No reason for Doolin to feel hard done by those comments.
Even when he took us down, he had a chip on his shoulder about it. It was Pete Mahon's fault somehow, despite what the nasty media would have you believe. He did a brilliant job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
He has taken a yo yo club and turned them into champions in the space of a few years . He spent money but so what , he also brought lots of players into the club for free , players who were returning from the uk etc .He has done a great job here and gets nothing but slagged and negativity from other clubs and the media . He has a chip on his shoulder but is that not a good thing for a manager these days ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
90% of transfers within the EL and into the EL are for nothing, that's no great claim. He's had an awful lot of money to spend on wages as well as paying large fees when he has to, such as 55k for Barrett, another 50 or so for Zayed etc. He's doing no better than he should be expected to do in my opinion. As regards the chip on his shoulder, I know people who have met him and one or two who played with him. He's a bit miserable by nature by all accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndrog
Can't stand the man. I'd love to see someone like Richardson take charge of the squad and resources he has, the league would be taking an immediate step forward in outsiders' estimations.
I'd say the feelings mutual. All the Drogs I know can't stand you so I assume Doolo would be the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Never had much of an opinion of him, but Cookie told us he literally rang him every week asking what the latest is on Faz. Putting his offer up by €100's every time, when he knew a bid of at least €80,000-€100,000 would work, and only making it to €40,000!
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Originally Posted by pete
Matthews hasnt come across as very secure with cork so far this season - reckon he'll be the winner of your special award this season!
As for doolin - hes under no pressure from the board of DUFC even when we went through s*** spells (or never was regadless of what people on here want to believe). That is a fact
It's a bit different for Mathews though. He's just starting with Cork but Doolin should be a bit more sanguine about things by now, given that as you say he's not under pressure from his board. Whether he should be under pressure or not is for another day.
Siege mentality innit. All managers do it. Jaysus lads, its not rocket science.
I know he has been going on like this for a while now but I thought he might ease up with the moaning one he had actually won the league. He doesn't have to answer every question saying everyone out to get him.
Matthews is new so can't judge him yet.
I hate watching Drogheda but tbh I think he's perfect for them and Rico wouldn't suit them at all. Their players are more imposing physically, than skilfully and he makes the most of that. I still think they'd be much more formidable if they kept on to Fahey or bought Georgie though.
i genuinely have noticed this. win lose or draw he always claims there was only one team on the park etc etc. i really thought it a bit pathetic a couple of weeks ago when he said that the rovers goal was only a mi**** and thats how they lost. hes probably only a bit more defensive than the average manager would be in his position though, money and pressure are highly correlated in football. he would have been the subject of a lot of speculation if they didnt win the league last year and he will be again this year if they dont at least go very close. im sure some drogs fans may suggest that his position is very safe but that never stopped speculation in the past.
It will be interesting to see what sort of pressure he will be under when they finish outside of the top 3 at the end of the season.
They won't.
In fairness I don't know where that idea is coming from but it seems to be very prominent.
Whatever about their likelihood of getting a few too many draws, I can't see them losing enough games for them to fall to third, never mind fourth.
can see it myself. seems to be a better standard of league this year so far so I can see them finishing outside top 4 if injuries occur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
nearly everyone you talk to that has had dealings with doolin will say the same thing about the man. dont need me to repeat them but you can guess what the general opinion is. tactically, for every sami he has signed there is a glen fitzpatrick and he has an annoying habit of perservering with lost causes. also, playing for (hanging on for?) 1-0 wins at home to ucd isnt exactly the kind of thing to entice passive supporters to part with their hard earned euros. i'd rather richardson as manager any day of the week - if he kept his mouth shut that is!! ;)
I'll be honest i never even noticed him before he went to Drogs and initially not even that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I think his defensive 'everyone is out to get me' stance is actually guilt. He has had huge resources available to him and fans and board that will stick with him no matter what he does. He must recognise this himself, knows how he has underachieved and guilt is tearing him up because of it.
Absolute classic cork nonsense .How do you under achieve by winning stuff FFS .He has taken us from 2nd from bottom to the leauge title .What guilt ? he was brought in to do a job and he has done it really well .You really are a sad bunch coming out with this nonsense .He aint gonna win any popularity contests , and hes not exactly mister personality , but we dont care as long as we are winning .That afterall is the whole point is it not . Stupidest post in a long time A face :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Drogheda had the best squad in the Premier last season by some distance. A seven point margin to second place, unconvincing performances, playing hoofball with quality players did not represent the strength of players at Drogheda. If it wasn't for a midseason blip by Pats they would have won the league. Last season was also one of the weakest in a number of years which also made it easier for Doolo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndrog
With the same players? None of your squad from the '04 season played an important role for Drogheda last season (one if you count Fabio, though he was injured). He's a cheque book manager, nothing else, who has the tactical nous of a chimpanzee.Quote:
He has taken us from 2nd from bottom to the leauge title .
Exactly. Hard luck this season.Quote:
but we dont care as long as we are winning .That afterall is the whole point is it not .
Funny funny post!!Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!!!:cool:
Exactly. Doolin and Scully are masters at it (in the meeja anyway)Quote:
Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior
To fully, 100% represent the "strength of his players", he would have to be the perfect manager, and the players' performance would never be allowed to dip below 100% peak performance - in the league, cup, league cup, and Europe. Do you believe a perfect manager exists, and do you believe the perfect footballers exist? We play in a **** league where the majority of the teams are ****. The players are ****, and they're physical on top of that. The most physically strong team will usually win the league, and last season that was Drogheda.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
What he said, although i wouldn't have been as clear cut about it. I would have worded it more diplomatically but the semantics would have been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Think about it, he arguably has not achieved what he should have given the resources he has had. Even though its the best Drogs had got in years/ever its still falls short of what actually should have happened given the spend. I think Doolin understands this and is guilty because of it.
I dont know am i wording it right, but i think its a natural reaction given the situation he is in.
But the most physical team doesn't always win the league. Cork were certainly not physical when they won the league, and 1 or 2 of the Pats teams weren't either. (SOme of them were)
Cork City weren't physically strong in 2005, far from it. It was pure skill and ability that won us the league by the biggest points tally in years. If anything Derry coming second that year were far bigger and stronger than City.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
I remember a St James Gate Team that were built like, and to some extent played like, professional wrestlers. Not only did they not win the league, they finished near the bottom of the first division.
Well then Doolin must have super achieved. We won the league by 7 points, wrapped up with three games to go - you won it by 2 on the last day of the season in 2005.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Not bad by Doolin for a bunch of underachieving hoofball clubbers. Pure fluke the 2006 Setanta cup was, as was the 2007 Setanta cup and the FAI cup where Cork forgot to turn up.
:confused: You didnt beat our points tally last year, despite it being a lower standard league.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
You didnt beat Derry's points tally of that year either.
Tell me something - who decided it was a lower standard league last season?Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
That would be the supporters(all bar Drogheda fans) who have watched the league for many many years and have the ability to compare them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
As well as many players during the course of the year, most of which annoyed their team wasnt doing better in a poor league.
But if Drogheda fans want to believe it wasn't a poorer league than the years gone before fine.
However it wouldnt make any sense for me and other fans to say this if it wasnt true. It only reflects badly on our clubs. Ffs we could only finish 4th in a ****e league, its hardly something to brag about
With all his resources Doolin achieved what was expected last season. Getting a draw way to San Marino team in the Uefa Cup was a blot on his record.
Realistically expectation will be to be in with chance of winning the league right up to the end of the season. Also have to get past 1st qualifying round in CL so will be significant pressure there. He would probably get credit if he retains the league this year as hard thing to do even with such a large squad.
He does seem to have an addiction to signing forwards - O'Brien, Bates, Zayed, Grant, O'Keeffe, Barrett, Senegal lad. Could argue Barrett a wide midfielder but the other 6 are all out & out forwards.
It was a very poor standard in 2005. Dreadful actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Does that statement make it true.
Was the Setanta cup poor in 2006 / 2007 because we won it. Was the FAI cup final in 2005 poor becaue we made the greatest league champions ever look ordinary.
Is this year's better than last, than 2005, than 1986