Saw him make his competitive debut for his new club on Friday. Looked okay. Comfortable on the ball. Think he will get alook in under new manager given how much Brady knows about him. Says as much himself in the paper today.
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Saw him make his competitive debut for his new club on Friday. Looked okay. Comfortable on the ball. Think he will get alook in under new manager given how much Brady knows about him. Says as much himself in the paper today.
What club is that?
st pats.
Ah. the sig could have given it away i guess. good luck to him-wasnt he at arsenal? without trying to offend any LOIers here but to go straight from a prem team to LOI is a serious step down -does he have any serious injury concerns or was her really at a team and league way to high for his level?
Well he was in the Ireland squad for the US trip only a few months ago. He wanted to play European football I suppose. Many players have failed to make the grade at Arsenal and still gone on to be good players.
Would he be first choice at centre half with Pats?
Hes started in every league game this seasons so suppose he is..
only player in the eircom league with every vowel in his name ? anyone ?
All 1 of them :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
I thought he was the better of the two centre-halves against England in the recent U21 international. He looks a better player to me than O'Dea so depending on how he goes with Pats and considering our lack of options in that position, it'd be no harm in considering him for the seniors.
How old is he?
Gents... playing LOI level is not sufficient to be expect to playing international football for Ireland.. I am a long time fan of the League , However unless we are REALLY stuck (eg if a serial killer has done all the players grannies in)... THERE IS NO CHANCE of a LOI player starting in a competitive game ... NONE !!!
He was with Barnet after Arsenal, so he's made a step up leaving them.Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
A lot of clubs took a look at him at various times (Arsenal, Watford, Luton are a few) and didn't keep him on or take him after a trial. You'd fear for his prospects given the number of rejections he's had - Arsenal excepted, the others are hardly overflowing with talent. However, he's looked pretty decent in his two last U21 internationals and hasn't looked much better or worse than his peers for Ireland, or Bulgaria or England.
It just shows how frustratingly fine a line it is for a young player these days. I hope he does well for Pats and if he does well consistently and makes the grade ultimately in England it'll be yet another indication that playing in Ireland well into your 20s can still be a platform for progress.
You reckon? Barnet released him as they deemed he wasn't good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
How dare you say this, have you not seen athlone-kildare play?! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedender81
..and hes bounced back to be playing European football this season. Fair play to the lad.Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
ya bill but honestly, "european" football, about how many games, 4 at the most, probably 2 and 2 against opposition on the same level as the EL....
Barnet did not release him. Pats paid a transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
Personally don't think he's international standard but he's in the U21 squad a good while and as near to ever present as anybody. Very comfortable on the ball, he wasn't really preswsed into too much defending on Friday (although did fall asleep for the goal IMO)
If he continues to play well for the U21s (and is now eligible for the U23s) who knows. I know I'd prefer him playing for Pats than Andy O'Brien who Liam brady wants back into the fold...
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
If he was any good he wouldn't have moved IMO. 1. Barnet would have been unlikely to have sold him to an EL club as they would have wished to hold onto him and also there would probably have been other clubs in England interested in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
2. He wouldn't have moved. He's from London as far as I remember and would have almost certainly preferred to stay around his home.
3. Most LoI players hanker for years after a move to England so its unusual that a good player will move to the EL from England unless he's able to cut the mustard in England.
A harsh analysis you may feel, but also IMO an accurate one.
bit of an unfounded presumption that?Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
Maybe Pats are paying more than Barent were willing to pay. Apparently the top sides in the LOI are paying wages comparable to Division One sides in England. Barnet are bottom of Division Two so perhaps they do not have the finances that Pats have.Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
I saw him play at Brentford whilst on loan with Brighton last season (maybe the season before?).
Anyhow, he had an absolute shocker. To be fair, he may have been playing out of position (at left back), but he was absolutely creamed by a young wee winger, Charlie Ide, who was playing only his 5th or 6th game for the Bees.
And perhaps he was lacking match fitness, since he was sucking in air for most of the second half, but how he got away with not being red carded (he got a yellow) for persistently kicking Ide I'll never understand - it was just about his only tactic for stopping him.
As I've indicated, there may have been mitigating circumstances, but I have to say, he was truly dreadful and it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't look as if he'll ever make it in England.
This will only be a stop over for him, as soon as a half decent offer from the lower leagues in England or the SPL comes in he's gone, which is a shame because the couple of games I've seen him in he looks like a classy player and he'd be a loss to the league not to mention Pats!
How do you know he'd be gone? A lot of assumptions in this thread, not enough fact!
If he has any ambitions, including international ambitions, and he's any good, then he will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
You must of cursed him EG :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
"21:54 - GOAL FOR GLENTORAN! A defensive howler from Joe O'Cearuil has allowed Michael Halliday in to give the Northern side an early lead at Richmond Park. What a start! O'Cearuil left it for Barry Ryan, who was never going to get there and Halliday raced in to round the keeper and put Glentoran in front."
was the goal on friday not the exact same ??:(
did anyone else read that word as someone who had a problem with pronouncing their "R"'s. :D Thats no slight on you dodge btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
He was playing for Brighton under Wilkins, out of position is a standard role... and the Albion were fairly shocking for most of last season bar two runs that kept the club up, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
However, he still was below par compared to the rest of the squad at the time, so...
BTW it was 100% Ryan's fault. He called keepers and Joe left it, as he should've. He played well tonight IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Didn't see the goal but sounds exactly like Lescott's goal against Man City when Dunne left the ball for his keeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I have been very impressed with him any time I have seen him for the U21's. Will catch him this Friday and see how he does. Although I am sure he will be able to match Crowe and Fenn for pace.
Hmm very intresting:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
No, waterlogged pitch ... game was called off an hour before kickoff :pQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Me. :o :DQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
No bother POS. Can say them alright, just can't fecking type...Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Have you?!Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
He looks a good signing for Pats, an intelligent footballer.