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Football365 singing Bill's praises. As they have been for sometime. living over here, I really miss RTE coverage.
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http://football365.com/mediawatch/0,...172967,00.html
Football365 singing Bill's praises. As they have been for sometime. living over here, I really miss RTE coverage.
classic it was!
as for dunphy....what a ****
Maybe Lineker and Richard Key's will follow suit and start asking difficult questions?!
My bro lives in Scotland and he had some mates over here and they were watching The Premiership and they couldn't believe how much better and honest the analysts were and no joking they were both saying how they would try and get the RTÉ coverage on satellite because of the lameness of the BBC pundits.
its on the rte site nowQuote:
Originally Posted by PAURO 7
Watching Bill last night ...and the lads actually, It once again struck me that they're a national treasure. Yes they're prone to self-parody at times and all that but nonetheless -they won't be truly appreciated til their gone and we've Conor Mac or someone trying to extract wisdom from Matt Holland, Kenny Cunningham and some celebrity in their own press release*.
I still believe that if seventeen months ago Cyprus V Ireland had been on RTE rather thav TV3 then Stan would've been sacked in the days after it -neither he nor the FAI able to withstand the pressure that started with Bill and the boys withering disection -made while theirs and the nations anger and disgust was raw and new.
*Celia Holman Lee? That C*** who presents the weather on TV3? a string of rugby players? current eurovision/you're a star finalist?
When the day comes it'll be dumbed down ...all the way down to Channel 5.
Is this the hero who laughs at everything Dunphy says, fails to point out his contradictions and with himself, Giles and Dunphy lead scurrilous campaigns against Charlton and McCarthy without contradiction for well over a decade.
Same old cr+p about the panelists being "honest". What does that mean? A clown spouts off the first thing that comes in to his head with no basis in logic and the host laughs as if it was the funniest thing he's heard in ages. The clown then says the total opposite the next week and the host laughs. Brilliant honesty.
After the Sheffield Utd vs Millsboro game last week on BBC, Hansen said that was totally forgettable. That's honesty. No total bullsh*t being spouted about the Italian game or congratulating Mutt and Jeff for their part in appointing Trappatoni.
Souness I like and is a decent pundit.
Agreed they are great entertainment and I for one will miss them when they are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Not sure if the lads had enough sway to get Staunton fired after the Cyprus game but maybe its a good thing Staunton wasn't fired back then as it was unlikely we would have got anyone like Traps and would have had to settle for the best of whatever was available back then
Dunphy little rant about how he always feels good about himself was priceless.
If you want a decent presenter who actually know something about football and challenges the pundits comments, try Paul Dempsey from Setanta (and once of Sky) and who doesn't laugh inanely at every comment.
Brilliant boxing presenter as well. Sky haven't recovered since he jumped ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
:eek:Seriously?! Dempsey is one of the worst out there, he knows nothing about football and even less about boxing. On top of which he has zero personality. I would be more inclined to think he was made walk the plank rather than jumped ship. I'd even put Linaker ahead of him in the presenter stakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
:eek: Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambaiste!
http://www.personallyspeaking.ie/paul_dempsey_70.html
Paul joined Setanta Sports in August 2006 and is currently presenting the Irish sports channel’s live Barclays Premiership, Champions League and UEFA Cup coverage. Paul capably leads the live on-air studio discussion on Setanta Sports and he certainly knows what he is talking about having played professional soccer in England, Ireland, France and Switzerland. He speaks French, German and Spanish.
I think that a slight step up from a advertising and pr executive. Okey dokey?
who did he play for?
You're getting a bit *****ly there, is he a relative of yours or something? I wasn't aware that having played football automatically translates into the ability to present a television programme. So presumably you think someone like Alan Smith who has played the game at a higher level is correspondingly more insightful and interesting in his analysis of the game than Dempo and Billo put together?Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I was responding to your comment that he knew nothing about football. Self-evidently he does and if you listen to his comments it is obvious he does and no, he's not a relative of mine :rolleyes: He certainly knows a lot more than laughing Mr. Okey Dokey which quite frankly wouldn't be hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambaiste!
Mr Okey Dokey knows plenty about football, but his job seems to be just to set the boys off into a tizzy, which he does to perfection. It may not be your bag but its what he does and he does it very well.
That's true, laughing Okey Dokey (I like that name) plays his part in what is, generally speaking, the best punditry team on TV at the moment. It's not really his job to know the game inside out so I don't find his lack of a footballing backround to be a problem. Setanta is a poor man's Sky - style over substance being the order of the day, an approach which falls flat on its face due to the obvious lack of funds they have at their disposal compared to Murdoch and Co. Having said that, it's the place to be after a hard day's work when Mr. Boring Stubbly Face and AN Other footballing never-was are guaranteed to gently bore you into the land of nod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
And what excatly is stopping you gettting it?????Quote:
Originally Posted by PAURO 7
I live in Belgium and I have all the irish channels (RTE1, RTE2, TV3 and TG4)
For the years that I lived in Brussels I really missed those types of shows but once we bought our own house in Flanders the first thing I installed was Satellite TV.
I love it!
If you want more info on how you can get them, let me know
Sorry to disagree gentlemen, I believe that Paul and Bill are brill but there is only one true football presenter............Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Jeff Stelling
Absolute Legend!
on the subject of punditry:
gary imlach on eurosport was really good i thought when doing the african cup of nations last month .
i remember his punditry when channel 4 had coverage of the american football which was always worth tuning in for.
and his book on his da is a belter as well
Totally agree. I love the guy, funny, informative and some amazing one liners. What a bloke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Im house sharing at the moment but moving house in the summer so I may defintiely look into that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
For all yuo Jeff Stelling fans:
http://www.411mania.com/ubbthreads/s...3&Main=5649548
Lads check out newstalk and under the downloads section on the off the ball programme (its blocked in work so cant post the link), theres a clip of the rte lads straight after the romania game - brillant stuff!! Bill with his green 'clapping hands' hat on him is priceless!!
One of the many memories of Italia 90 that will never leave me! I've the Romania game on VHS and the tape runs out about 30 secs after bill comes on with his "Big Green Clapping hat"Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
If Gary Lineker or Keyes put on a English clapping hat, having listened to, not contradicted and even supported two panelists having a serious go at the English manager and his tactics, you would say "What a clown and hypocrite!" and I wouldn't disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
I was 11 during Italia 90 so prolly didn't even know the meaning of the word hypocrite at the time that the memory was formed, it's just that when ever I think about italia 90 I'll always remember Packie Gritting his teeth before hoofing the ball towards sheedy for the equaliser against England, George Hamilton's " Timofte against Bonner ....Yeh" and again Hamilton " A nation holds it's breath......We're There!" and then Bill O' with his "Big Green Clapping Hat" grinning and saying "Fantastic .....wasn't it"Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
A family friend will have slightly different memories though... we were watching the game in the Spa Hotel in Lucan and when Packie saved the Peno the place went mental (obviously) and during the Melee someone wearing stiletto heals jumped into the air and landed heal first on said family friends ankle(the stiletto went clean through the fleshy part of the ankle above the heel) she did eventually walk again after 4 operations
Therein lies the difference. The 3 of them were pi**ing on my dreams and did so for years, including the Mick Mc era. I had lived through years of failure and now, when we had at last qualified and doing well, RTE decided to employ a clown, an ex-pro who repreated himself as nauseum, both of whom just viciously slagged off the managers and a compere who never challenged their views and in fact encouraged them and whose sole contribution was to just laugh at the buffoon's jokes, all in the name of entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
No contrary opinion was ever put in place and that's what was really annoying. No balance.
Plus ca change.
I was very critical of Staunton when he was Irish manager but still went mental when Kevin Doyle scored in Slovakia and scored at Croke Park. Does that make me a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Perhaps you're right! but then again considering the Midfield that Ireland had going to Italia 90 Maybe just Maybe (I know hindsight is great) with a different manager we could have utilised that World Class Midfield and World Class Center halves to really compete at the tournament and not just ride the wave of euphoria with the usual win lose or draw we'll have a great time attitudeQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I sometimes wonder if our much praised devil may care party reputation is actually counter-productive at times with Italia90 a case in point
He played for UCD in the 1980s.Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
I accept that the team cannot be beyond criticism but I don'taccept we had a "world class midfield" or "world class centre halves". We're inclined to hype up our own players. Some very good players, perhaps one world class, but also some terrible weakenesses in certain positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Anyway, to repeat my point, what got to me was there was NEVER anyone on the panel to put a contrary view. Giles/Dunphy sang off the same hymm sheets for years until Saipan and ONLY then did we see a real debate in the panel. And of course when Dunphy was contradicted by Giles, he totally turned on him and called him many pejorative names. We should have had that debate from 1988-2002. Instead we had Giles and Dunphy and O'H kicking off with the same negative stuff, week in, week out. It did my head in. It still does.
I think it does if you were part of a campaign on national television against the manager week in, week out, and then appeared on TV with a stupid hat and said "Isn't this wonderful lads?" and ignored all the negative stuff you had said and promoted rather than sticking to your guns and then just return to the negativity the minute things go wrong again.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
having played the game doesn't make you a good analyst..two words...Jamie rednapp........also Bill is the host not an analyst..he just throws the fishing line out to see what he can reel in and he is deffo the best at thatQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
i do like Dempsey but you are comparing chalk with cheese......
the time after a champions league game when george Hamilton said "we hand you back to bill and the studio Panel " and bill said (paraphrasing here) no wonder as that was total crap....that was pure gold and was what everyone at home was thinking
There's a difference between being a host and a jeerleader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias