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Any insight?
I hope he's not picking the team because he rates Liam Miller highly, I rate him highly too...for about 10 minutes of some games and that's when playing well.
I can see him sitting down with The Big Don and Co. discussing the players but Trap will make his own mind up from video, training and friendlies and as a liaison with the players...i.e. a limited role.
We dont even know if Wenger is going to allow Chippy to join team Trapp but if he does then id say he will be a part time consultant, giving Trapp the low down on the current crop of Irish players, getting him to understand their mentality because some of them can be right fools e.g. Stephen 'I dont want to be associated with' Ireland
I would politely suggest that one shouldn't assume he's a fool simply because one isn't aware of (or doesn't understand) his reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by RivaldoBabb
sorry, im not interested in his EXCUSES.
Cone cleaner? Boot boy?
Plenty of oppertunites for him!!
It is clear he has no role as yet. Trappatoni spoke to him AFTER the approach by Givens (using his Swiss connections) and the boys. It would also seem as the only Irishman he knows and presumably respects, Trappatoni would like him as part of the team.
So the ball is in Liam's court at the moment.
I think its a pretty safe bet that he is a fool, he was stupid enough to say that his living Granny had died and he was actually stupid enough to think that he would get away with it, if that doesn't make you a fool then I don't know what doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bondvillain
There's a thread devoted to Stephen Ireland lads.
could that make him naive...just throwing it out there ...or is he just a lemming and went along with what the Girlfriend said.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
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Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Can nobody on here stay anywhere near "on-topic" !!! FFS
I did and I do fear if Brady turns down the job (whatever the job might be), Givens may be offered some role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
Christ no, bad enough he's staying as U21 boss. :eek::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Hope Arsenal allow him to go. I fear David Platt will be involved if he isn't.
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Originally Posted by Morbo
And to be sure, to be sure, he repeated the lie again:D
I hope chippy is involved but with Trap the main man, we will have no problems recruiting a top class backroom team.
from his RTE punditry can anyone speculate on which players will be spoken of favourably to Trapp if Chippy gets a role.
I know he was never convinced by 'McGeddy' but seemed to like Miller. Wonder if he sees some of his own traits in Garvan?
Doubt it, Platt wasn't Trap's greatest fan, hated playing for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
touch of the ...Its my thread and I'll cry if I want to ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
He certainly praised him enough in commentary for the Brazil match last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by frankbrett
why does he insist on calling him maceddie though?! even when herlihy and the rest call him by his name
In fairness he spent 7 years in Italy and still can't pronounce Juventus.
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Or "Giovanni" ! [Jo-VAN-ny]
Ever seen that friends episode where Ross starts speaking with the English accent??Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Its a bit like that
Captured brilliantly by Apres match in their early "Brady's Insight" live sketch:Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
O Herlihy : "So Liam, It's clear the players need coherent guidance. what advice would you offer the boys in the dressing room there now?"
Brady : "Weeeell Billlll....eeeeh (mumbles)... Samp-DOOR-ee-ya, (more mumbles) Joo-VENT-uz...(mumbles) eeehhh, EEEEnter Meelan?"
O Herlihy : "Okeydoke. Eejit."
Good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
It looks like Brady has met face to face in long meetings with Trap about his proposed role in the Trap era and has gone home to mull on it a bit.
Brady ponders role
Delaney
I 'don’t want to talk publicly about what his role (with Ireland) would be but certainly it was clarified over the day or two we were out there. I think he’s the perfect fit for the role we spoke about. He also has a very good relationship on a personal basis with (Marco) Tardelli'
In charge of the subuteo games?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
To help Trappatoni get to know the players. Very strange role. I could do that. "Here's Ireland - his relatives are sickly people. Here's O'Shea - he strutts a lot but can't pass to his own players. Here's Duff - opps he's just tripped and injured himself. Here's Reid - no, seriously that's his normal weight....etc"
:D
Owls, if Trap needs a court jester he can give you a call.
"Here's Given, he loves going the wrong way at penos. Here's Finnan. There goes Finnan. Here's McGeady. He loves to run backwards with the ball a bit and falls over a lot. Here's Kilbane. He's a great header of the ball, can't pass or turn quickly but we play him at full back. Here's Keane - he does a great cartwheel. Here's Hunt - he clatters in to goalkeepers and likes to get sent off. Here's Dunne. Competitive, strong, a leader but not our captain. Here's Lawrence - a porn star. Here's Doyle. Emmmmm. Well anyway, here's the former manager - he used to put out the cones at Walsall and never managed before. Here's the stadium. No it's not a soccer stadium and when we move from here we'll be playing in, err, umm, not a soccer stadium. Hope that's all clear, Giovanni. Now where's my cheque?"
Whaddya reckon Brady's chances are of getting O'Brien & Finnan to change their minds and come back to the fold?
O'Brien retired because he felt hard done by. He could be convinced. I can't see Finnan changing his mind though. As others have said though, they shouldn't need to be convinced but I'd certainly have both them back.
Probably a better chance with O'Brien than Finnan. Liverpool will always be in contention for trophies, it'll be hard to resolve that with the relative success of qualification with Ireland. It'll be hard to get Finnan to return unless he's guaranteed that he'll start every single game at right full, remember one of his complaints was being played out of position.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwhite
On the other hand, qualification with Ireland will have to be seen as a bigger success than O'Brien will ever achieve with Bolton, who will regard not getting relegated and decent cup run as a success.
I like the mention of "several promising youngsters in the Championship" from Brady last night on RTE. You'd have to imagine that'll include McCarthy, Whelan, McCann, Garvan, etc
From the articles ive read Finann seemed fairly set on retirement wheras O'Brien might be convinced to return. But the Finann article on liverpools website was written before Trapp came on board. The attraction of working with a world class manager might have changed his mind.
We certainly need him, and O'Brien for that matter, there arent many young promising defenders putting their hands up.
Funnily enough if I had to choose one I'd prefer to see O'Brien back ahead of Finnan. We're so desperate for a CB that he'd walk straight back into the team....whereas Kelly is an adequate replacement in a non-crucial position...Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Exactly, we all know Finnan is the better player, and it would be great if we could get him back. But we are down to the barebones in central defence. We need Andy O'Brien. We havent really got an answer for who to put beside Dunne, and im not sure if O'Shea or McShane are the answer. if O'Brien can recapture the form he showed while playing beside Cunningham then we most certainly need him back
There's a chance that Finnan may leave Liverpool in the summer. If he does, he could be enticed back. It's not likely, but I really hope he does. The acquisition of Trapattoni may help us to land him back too.
If Any O'B wasn't good enough for the last two managers, I doubt if he'll be in Trappatoni's plans. McShane/O'Shea/Dunne should be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmurphyc
Surprised Trappatoni hasn't even come over yet as far as I am aware.
O'Brien and Cunningham were in Kerr's team and we had one of the best defensive records in Europe at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan