When is it?
How many groups are there going to be?
How does the seeding work? What seed will we be?
How many qualify? Group winners, then winners of a playoff between the runners-up?
Where can one follow it online?
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When is it?
How many groups are there going to be?
How does the seeding work? What seed will we be?
How many qualify? Group winners, then winners of a playoff between the runners-up?
Where can one follow it online?
World Cup 2010 draw to take place in Durban next November http://www.worldcup2010southafrica.c...pdf_button.png http://www.worldcup2010southafrica.c...rintButton.png http://www.worldcup2010southafrica.c...mailButton.png Thursday, 14 December 2006 http://www.worldcup2010southafrica.c...-2010-draw.jpg The draw for the qualifying round of the 2010 World Cup will take place in Durban, it was confirmed yesterday, on November 25th and broadcast live to 200 countries.
The press briefing yesterday, fronted by LOC Chairman Irvin Khoza also confirmed that from November 27th next year Durban will play host to a series of meetings by officials from the world governing body FIFA to discuss preparations for the tournament.
Khoza confirmed that as well as FIFA representatives, national team coaches are expected to attend the event in Durban.
In other news from yesterday, Cape Town was warned that it would be deprived of a role in the 2010 World Cup if it delays the construction of a new stadium. "The LOC will not tolerate any delay. If there is any delay in Cape Town, Cape Town is out," Khoza said.
Green Point residents are considering legal action as the planned new stadium is to be built on municipal football pitches and a public golf course while the existing stadium in Green Point, remains.
The real threat to Cape Town is that if development doesn't begin early next year there is every chance they could lose the matches planned for the City, including a semi-final, as FIFA are increasing the pressure on the 2010 LOC to get things under development.
Negotiations are ongoing with the Cape Town municipality and an announcement is expected later this month according to Danny Jordaan, CEO of the 2010 World Cup LOC.
As far as i know there will be 9 groups in the european qualification section. With each group containing 5 or 6 teams, there will probably be 4 five-team groups and 5 six-team groups....something like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
The seeding is based on the current world rankings of the UEFA nations. On this basis, we will fit comfortably inside the third seed pot
All the 9 group winners qualify automatically. Unfortunately however, playoffs are back on the agenda for the teams finishing in second. Worse still, as europe has only been given 13 qualification slots, only 8 of the 9 second place teams will qualify for a playoff. The second placed team with the worse record will NOT gain a playoff spot!!
(Clearly this qualification structure is much tougher than the one that was in place for euro 2008!!)
As regards the when and the how, I'm not exactly sure. I think the draw is before christmas mind
Thanks lads. I'm worried though - if we finish second in a five team group, surely we'll have less points than a second placed team in a six team group? They'll have had two more matches than us to rack up points. Surely this must be taken into account. How do they decided the "best" eight of the nine runners up? It's a very subjective thing - hopefully they don't use the UEFA rankings.
If anyone knows where I can find the list of seeds, I'd love to see it. Hopefully we get a good draw.
Seeding information is in 'the official seedings thread' below.
Draw is on Sunday 25th of November. Fingers crossed we get a handy draw, though knowing us we would probably do better in a tough draw!
UEFA really needs to do a better job for it's members, Typically of the last 8, European teams make up 6 of the quarterfinalists. I don't see why under-performing zones keep getting easy groups. The U.S. basically walks into the World Cup along with Mexico.
Ask yourself how Blatter gets elected...Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
...with goons like Jack Warner and Co back him up so these regions get the extra spots.
Have a read off Andrew Jenning's book Foul some time. Cracking read, exposes a lot of the FIFA corruption which we have witnessed personally at Cork City
The results against the team that finishes bottom of a 6-team group probably won't count for deciding the worst 2nd placed team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
There are 53 teams in the European zone with 13 places in the finals up for grabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
The teams will be drawn into 8 groups of 6 and 1 group of 5. The 9 group winners will qualify automatically and the best 8 runners up will be drawn in four home and away ties, with the winners of each of these ties going through to the finals.
These will be no disadvantage in being drawn in a 5 team group, as the results against the sixth seeded teams do not count in deciding the best 8 runners-up.
The draw takes place next Sunday afternoon, 25th November, in Durban, starting 3pm our time. The seedings will be based on the latest FIFA rankings which will be published on 23rd November.
Using the October rankings the seedings would be:
First Seeds: Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Croatia and England
Second Seeds: Romania, Scotland, Greece, Russia, Poland, Norway, Ukraine, Sweden and Serbia.
Third Seeds: Turkey, Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Bulgaria, Northern Ireland, Israel, Switzerland, Finland and Hungary,
Fourth Seeds: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Slovakia, Belgium, Cyprus, Wales, Moldova, Albania, Georgia and FYR Macedonia.
Fifth Seeds: Slovenia, Iceland, Armenia, Latvia, Austria, Lithuania, Belarus, Azerbiajan and Liechtenstein
Sixth Seeds: Kazakhstan, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Andorra, Faroe Islands and Andorra
From a footballing point of view, I would be happy with:
Czech Republic or Croatia
Romania or Norway
Wales or Albania
Liechtenstein or Lithuania
Any of the sixth seeds bar Estonia.
First Seeds: Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Croatia and England
Second Seeds: Romania, Scotland, Greece, Russia, Poland, Norway, Ukraine, Sweden and Serbia.
Third Seeds: Turkey, Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Bulgaria, Northern Ireland, Israel, Switzerland, Finland and Hungary,
Fourth Seeds: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Slovakia, Belgium, Cyprus, Wales, Moldova, Albania, Georgia and FYR Macedonia.
Fifth Seeds: Slovenia, Iceland, Armenia, Latvia, Austria, Lithuania, Belarus, Azerbiajan and Liechtenstein
Sixth Seeds: Kazakhstan, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Andorra, Faroe Islands and Andorra
You can see how unlucky we were for Euro 2008 we had two first seeds in our group. (two other groups, Englands and Scotlands also had two first seeds in them).
Anyway I am very happy with the groups, none of the second seeds really scare me too much, would rather avoid Romania and Russia though.
England Croatia or Portugal would be easier first seeds. I think we could get the easiest group for a long time.
As long as we avoid Cyprus we will qualify :D :rolleyes:
Montenegro as bottom seeds would be a disaster IMO
I'm disappointed we can't draw the wee north
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by danonion
I'm not !Quote:
Originally Posted by danonion
I'd be happy with:
Czech Republic
Ukraine, Norway or Scotland
Albania
Liechtenstein
Andorra
My preferred choice
England, Scotland, Wales, Lichtenstein, Andorra.
Easy group for us!!!!!!!!
Well considering how well we despatched San marino earlier this year, we shoult hope to avoid them. No but seriously montenegro would not be good. The group with liecht as the fifth seeds will probably be the group that the top two finish with the highest points out of all the groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
The group of death would look something along these lines IMO........
Italy
Sweden/Poland
Ireland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Montenegro
The group of life (get booking your tickets for South Africa.....if only!!!)
Croatia
Norway
Ireland
Albania
Liechtenstein
San Marino
I think we'd struggle in the group of life such is our current malaise.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
I'm not - but only because of all the political crap and knuckle-draggers it would attract out from under their stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by danonion
On thr playing front, you might beat us in Croke, but I'd put my mortgage on our winning at Fortress Windsor! ;)
Trust me, you do NOT want Liechtenstein. Although we beat them 4-1 and 3-1, both games were much harder than the score suggests. In fact, had it not been for Healy being especially inspired (5 goals), we might even have dropped a couple of points to them, to go with the points they took off Iceland and Latvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
It won't be coincidence if they just make Pot 5, since they're the best of the "minnows" (imo).
I'd bet my mortgage too on pretty much any fictitious game you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Keep it on topic about the draw, or potential draw, and lets not drag another topic into North v Republic
I wouldn´t want the Italians, England would be just perfect.
Strong 4, 5 and 6th seeds make a group very interesting
Did anyone watch the 2001 Estonia Holland game live on teletext?
If you did there is no need to ask if you remember it.
My preference would be;
Czech Republic,
Norway,
Wales,
Liechtenstein,
Andorra.
Easy :)
That was the same day as we drew 1-1 at home to Portugal I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I took my Mrs Stuttgart to that game and she loved it. What she didn't love was the 8 hours talking about it in Bellamy's afterwards with my mate's WAP phone on the table updating us on the Estonia game. 2 very late goals for Holland in a 4-2 win??
Close enough except that it was 3 very late goals.
Watching it on teletext, it was stuck on 2-1 for about 10 minutes after scheduled finish but still waiting for the magic letters FT to appear next to the scoreline.
Then came a page refresh with the 3 goals for the Netherlands 86 89 and 91 mins.
your mate had WAP in 2001 ????Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Yep, it was deemed very progressive at the time.
Is the draw on TV?
Live on UTV/ITV and Sky Sports News according to this
http://www.liveonsat.com/foot_intl_a...&end_yyyy=2008
Where are San Marino gone to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
I think they're masquerading as Andorra in Pool Six:Quote:
Originally Posted by shedite
Sixth Seeds: Kazakhstan, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Andorra, Faroe Islands and Andorra
Perhpas they're hoping to sneak up on the ROI again? ;)
After February was hoping they had disappeared :eek: but as Ealing Green pointed out they are masquerading as 'and Andorra' :o Good spot!Quote:
Originally Posted by shedite
The Pispot: :(
Croatia,
Ukraine,
Georgia,
Azerbaijan,
Kazachstan.
For travelling reasons obviously.
The prostitutes are cheap though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Sort of hoping for the Italians just for the journey.
England would be an interesting draw, again for the travel.
I'm glad the 6 team format with play offs is back. It does offer medium-sized teams (of which Wales are one) a better chance to qualify than over a longer campaign where injuries and suspensions take their toll.
For the holidays :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Spain
Greece
Cyprus
Austria
Malta
Easiest
Czech Rep
Swedan
Albania
Leichtenstein
Andorra
Interesting
England
Scotland
Wales
Iceland
Faroe Islands
I think most people hate play-offs. We excel at reaching, if not qualifying from play-offs. If we get there, you're talking about another 12-match campaign. It seems unfair that a whole qualifiying campaign comes down to how you get on in a play-off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
And besides, when did Wales ever qualify for anything?? :confused:;)
The Jackpot: :)
Germany,
Greece,
Bosnia-Herzegovina,
Liechtenstein
Malta
I have had a quick look but I can't see a time for this, does anyone know...I am guessing it might be around noon here seeing the draw is in saaf afika.