What is it and who is going to be in it?????
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What is it and who is going to be in it?????
Premier sides will have to enter reserve teams in it for a start. Optional for D1 teams.
I'd love to know, but afaik nothing has been mentioned bout 'who' will be in it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
We can speculate though. A team from Kerry....? surely!
expect to see sporting fingal as well, read it last week
Hopefully, its about time kerry had a team in the LOI. Plenty of talent in the county anyway. I think it would be a disaster if premier reserve teams were in there.
It should be teams who might in the future enter teams in the league proper. ie Kerry, Mayo, Fingal etc
Yeah they're a shoe-in alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by olegunnar
What about Mullingar?
As said already, reserves of each Premier side (who cant be promoted).
Sporting Fingal, will surely be accepted, havent heard of any other clubs expressing an interest:confused:
A new club in Carlow, South East F.C., are aiming for the new U-20 league AFAIK
Letterkenny Rovers and Fanad Utd are rumoured to be applying.
Carlow is definitely big enough for an EL club.Quote:
Originally Posted by half_full
In Cork, Douglas Hall and Avondale have easily good enough squads.
Rockmount and College Corinthians would also be options, but you'd have to wonder how these clubs would fare if they went up.
Castlebar Celtic, Salthill Devon and Ballinasloe town are other names being thrown in.
What say what now?Quote:
Originally Posted by half_full
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Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
cant agree with that. the support which existed a few yars ago when kerry first came on the scene has vanised and i think Kerry being in the A division will be a good thing for them and they should do well in it with the seasoned LOI players which they possess. Their pitch is a disgrace as well
Gael353
The A League will be used to groom new clubs for the First Division in future as well as being a platform for reserve players to get regular football. It's like a Spanish 3rd Division where real clubs play reserve team of Primera Liga clubs who are based in other towns.
In Spain and other countries where reserve teams are allowed play in lower Divisions they are prohibited from getting promoted to higher divisions whereas real clubs are allowed to go up and down as per normal.
If I remember correctly there's a €5k registration fee for this division. Apart from Sporting Fingal all is very quiet on this front at the moment. Does anyone know if any other clubs applied for the spot that Wexford Youths got last year?
So if Ronaldinho, for example, was working his way back from an injury, he could play a game or two for the reserves an the Spanish 3rd division? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
As a point of interest, whereabouts do the reserve teams usually finish in the table?
If kerry enter this a championship,which is 99% certain at the moment,the buisness men taking over the venture have plans to bring the the pitch up to LOI standards and to extend main stand. Agree with you about the support though.Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Because Jackmam Park is the envy of every club in Europe!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
I would be very surprised if Castlebar Celtic dont enter a team here in Mayo. They have already entered a team in the under 21 eircom League. However like Kerry they wont get a huge following
If the main benefit of the A Division is to tee-up future entrants to the League proper, then it will prove a useful thing to have. Too often the league has had to go scrabbling for replacement clubs at short notice - meaning those who enter may not have been the preferred option had there been a longer notice period.
On the downside - this benefit to the A League is contingent upon existing senior clubs either dropping out, or being consistently very poor and finishing bottom regularly. Neither of which we should want to see in the league.
I could see an expansion of the EL by 2 more teams at some future point, giving each division equal numbers, but no more beyond that.
Anyways - makes sense to give us more a pyramid structure to football south of the border.
Just a question, say for example Bray get relegated next season and Dundalk get promoted, will Brays B Team be taken out and Dundalk forced to put one in?
First division teams can enter a reserve team in the A division but don't have to. Relegated teams could decide to remove their team if they wanted but I'd imagine most teams would enter a team. A promoted team would have to enter a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kildare Lad
Dont think it would work like that as you have to register with one of the teams at the start of the seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
But I'm guessing teams don't usually register players on a reserve team, as very often it will have "first team" players recovering from injury. I may be wrong though, but it would seem to nullify one of the reasons for having a reserve team.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
As far as I remember from Football Manager once you are registered for the first team you are automatically registered for the reserve team too...
Edit - Also in the new FM is the First divison relegation playoff between bottom in the first and winner of the A Championship. I think this is a good idea as it will make things at the bottom of the first more interesting.
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Originally Posted by osarusan
In Spain they're not reserve teams, they're B and C teams. Players can move up, but can't move down if they've played a certain amount of games for the First team. So Ronaldinho can't play for Barca B but the star of barca B can play for the first team in emergencies. I think there might be a rule about under 23s tooQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
In terms of results they don't really excel as they're usually made up of kids playing in mans league. Real Madrid's B team (now called Real Madrid Castilla) lost the Spanish Cup final in 1980 to their first team. As Real had won the league their reserves went into the Cup Winners Cup. They're no longer allowed in the Cup
Real Madrids B team were relegated to the 3rd division at the end of last season hvaing played in the Segunda(?) division that year. I saw a few games on Realmadrid TV (STOP SNIGGERING I have a life honest I do) and there were 1 or 2 first teamers playing so not sure about the no first team regulars playing
Of course maybe they were bangers!
Wrong. Each season the winner of the A league will have a play-off against the bottom team in Div 1 (Similar to Prem/1st Div Play-off). In theory an A division team could be in the Premier Division in 2 seasons!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
It should make the first division much more competitive with the threat of relegation looming for the division bottom feeders!
Is it confirmed that the winners of A League will be in a play-off ?Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
Would the A-League winners of that play-off automatically be promoted ? What if they don't want to be - as many won't from a financial etc point of view ?
What if, say, first place in the A League goes to a Reserve team - what would be the point in them playing for promotion ? Would it then go to 2nd place team instead - in which point it would become daft. Or would there just not be a play-off in any year that a Reserve team won - making a bit of a lottery/mockery of the whole relegation playoff thing ? And if a Reserve team did win it, and the play-off place then went to the second placed team - what if they were also a Reserve team ? All of this is highly feasable at some point.
So it seems very far from clear what the actual plan is regarding any proposed promotion/relegation re the A League.
read page 9 & 10 of this http://www.fai.ie/merger/pdf/eircomLeague-proposals.pdf
should answer your questions (that is once the fai havent changed the idea)
As I remember it to qualify for a playoff a non-reserve team would have to come in the top four as well as finishing ahead of other non-reserve teams. If the league is split they would have to play off against any team in a similar scenario in the other half before earning the right to challenge the D1 bottom team. I assume they would have to fulfil licensing to actually enter the league though.
yes, well insofar as that is the proposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
it will come down to licensing if they are awarded a 1st division license they will go up. afaik the participation agreement will require them to make themselves available for promotion, if they don't want to then don't enter the A league in the first place, or don't reach the promotion places!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
if the winner is a reserve team then it goes to the highest placed non-reserve team (provided they finish in the top 4 of the section).Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
i understand the format is as follows:
either 2, 3 or 4 regionalised divisions in the A league (depending on the number of accepted teams). apparently all premier division teams are obliged to enter a (reserve) team, first division teams are encouraged and then some outside teams, like those listed earlier, will be invited also.
supposedly the winners of each section (or highest placed non-reserve team if in the top 4) play off against each other.
the winner of this/these play-offs then plays a 2 legged play-off against the bottom team in the first division.
whoever wins this then plays in the first division provided they meet licensing requirements.
unclear if you are going on hearsay, however if you read the eircom league proposals document (pages 9&10 in particular) it is quite straight forward - again insofar as this is the framework of what is proposed, it may alter slightly on implementationQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Very good of you to sponsor it too Mr AQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Thanks for clarifying GalwayHoop. I think my natural scepticism of the FAI was getting in the way here, as it does look like they've actually thought something through properly for once...! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
Thanks again.
You know how it is, you go out for a quiet pint and the next thing you wake up with a raging hangover and discover you've sponsored a reasonably major football competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
You'd think I'd have learned my lesson from that time in Australia, but no, history repeats itself once more. :o
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Originally Posted by Titan
So is it possible for Real Madraid B's to get promoted twice to the La Liga and end up playing against the first team or is there a rule to stop this occuring.
There's a rule to stop itQuote:
Originally Posted by L37Ultra
Does this mean that the new A league will replace the current under 21 league. Most LOI clubs have a team in the under 21 league so the A league would be a combination of their current under 21 team and first teamers who are not playing. Since the current league teams can't get promoted you might have a situation of a club finishing in 5th or 6th place been promoted to the First division. Would promotion be optional then if they felt they were not up to First division standard or did not have a ground suitable ?
Teams have to be at least 4th to get promoted, and the U21 league will remain, albeit changed to U20.
I think you can no longer play overage players in that league as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
So does anyone know when the teams will be announced?