Of the last time Limerick won it
Does such a thing exist??
And if so how could I get my hands on it
gspain, I'm looking in your direction ;) :)
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Of the last time Limerick won it
Does such a thing exist??
And if so how could I get my hands on it
gspain, I'm looking in your direction ;) :)
RTE archives would have it. You might be able to get a copy of it there. Great day...Dalymount, p1ssing down, Tony Ward with all his tricks... Brendan Storan's headed goal...huge crowd...our bus getting stoned in Phibsboro (and not the nice kind of stoned either)...I was only 14, but remember it like it was yesterday!! What a team we had back then.
Great memories...should be a Carlsberg ad.:ball:
Cheers Joe
Many Limerick fans at it while you're reminiscing?? :)
Thousands...literally. Dalymount was pretty full and those days had a capacity of around 22,000. I'd say there must have been 6-7000 Limerick fans there. A young Paul Doolin played for Bohs that day. It all sadly started to go pear shaped the following season when a legal battle was mounted over ownership of the club...something that would ultimately destroy senior soccer in the city.
I'd say we would average 6 or seven thousand to home games them. The buzz walking up Mulgrave street at two o'clock every other Sunday was just unreal. For the visits of Waterford, Rovers and Sligo for some reason, the place was always packed to the rafters. Mind you, protecting yourself getting back into town safely after those three were in town was a job in itself.
The supporters club was boomimg then and a couple of buses were packed for most away games. Trips to the away legs of European ties were also done. I went to the away ties in The Bernabeu and The Dell...very contrasting trips, but as a spotty adolescent too young to know what alcohol or women were for, I didn't care. Players like Dessie Kennedy and Tony Meaney did for us what Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney do for young lads today.
It was great to be a part of.
Oh Boo!! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
:)
Didn't mean to sound patronising but it really was a great time to be a Limerick supporter. Gary will agree with me I'm sure. It had the feel of professionalism about it, but you knew on a Monday Dessie Kennedy would be fixing cars etc after playing against Real Madrid...
What do you make of the EL as a sustainable league at the moment then Joe? Just ask because a few of the lads from my neighbourhood back in Limerick think the current incarnation is a pale substitute for the glory days (not just Limericks, but the league in relation to attendence). They pretty much feel that the league itself, as well as Limerick, is a lame duck these days and will never get crowds coming anywhere close to what they used to be again
They were great days Joe. Pints in the Black Battery before the match and a game of 45. Then over to watch the game, head into town afterwards, calling on Jerry O'Deas, The Tanyard Inn, Dick Keanes, The Winning Post, and Rashers Kirbys on the way...and you still wouldn't have reached William St by then.:D
In my opinion, the league fell away in the late 80's/early 90's and was allowed to do so by bad management by non-qualified people who were self serving. The FAI didn't give a rats about the league and when people like Johnny Giles and Ray Treacy tried to make Shamrock Rovers a fully professional outfit capable of competing in Europe, they were laughed at. I still think if people listened to Giles and Treacy back then rather than sneer at them we would all be in a better place today.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Regarding Limerick; the closure of the Markets Field had a detrimental effect alright, but not as detrimental as people think. In-fighting between Pat Grace, Mick Webb, Peter Campbell and others to gain control of the club over the years left a sour taste in everybodys mouth. Lets not forget that attendances were regularly at the 4,000 mark during the early days in Rathbane and it was only the burning down and subsequent non-replacement of the clubhouse that signalled the beginning of the end for Limerick soccer as we knew it.
I think the league was a lame duck for about 15 years. It isn't any more thanks to people like Pat Dolan, Ollie Byrne and a few others who have always tried to promote the game and sell it to local people, as opposed to the Kilcoynes and Graces and Drew's of this world who had no passion for the game, but only for money.
Limerick 37 is at a very interesting crossroads now I believe. Like it or lump it, on the field success is the key to commercial success off it. Limerick people are sports mad and will support any sport in their city...but are also very fickle in so far as they really back winning teams. Thats a fact thats not going to change. If Limerick get promoted, you wil see crowds of 3000 plus at games versus Shamrock Rovers, Cork City, Derry City and Bohemians in Jackman Park. Play them at home each twice a season and you're taking in €150,000 in gate receipts alone. But promotion is the key, and sadly I don't see that happening under the current regime. Commercially too, the club are going to have to bite the bullet, and pay (properly) a ful time commercial / marketing whizz who is local, and understands the score. The FAI should subsidise this, and a plan for assistance should be drawn up and put to them.
Senior soccer in Limerick will never die, but unless something is done soon we're going to miss the boat again and it will continue to simmer in Division 1.
Excellent post Joe. Im obviously too young to remember the "glory days" but I have heard so many stories about them. Many people in Limerick will show their support for soccer in Limerick but because of the last 5-10 years, they see it as a joke and they cannot take it seriously. We need (at Limerick37) someone who works full-time at promoting the club in the city and county. Small things help people stand up and take notice of Limerick37 and become involved as a supporter. Having read through these posts about the past, it is know easy to understand why some people on here are always complaining about the current regime. They must seem like a joke compared to your "heros" of the 80s etc.. I am just happy because I compare it to the last 10 years. There is great potential out there as Soccer in Limerick is greatly popular. Just look at the amount of Schoolboy and Junior clubs we have. If we continue to do things right and get local players with passion, then the commercial side of the club will control itself.
Wasn't being pi$$y joe, it's just I'm following Limerick 14 years so you can imagine how my glory days compare :oQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Well said and a point that the Markets Field whingers constantly overlook.Quote:
Lets not forget that attendances were regularly at the 4,000 mark during the early days in Rathbane
People will go to watch Limerick if they are doing well, regardless of where (aslong as it's on the southside :p)
Spot on. Which is why this shop idea baffles meQuote:
Like it or lump it, on the field success is the key to commercial success off it.
Boat has been missed already I fear. For another two years minimum anyway :(Quote:
Senior soccer in Limerick will never die, but unless something is done soon we're going to miss the boat again and it will continue to simmer in Division 1.
For the younger folk:Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Jerry O'Deas is still Jerry O'Deas.
The Tanyard Inn became Miss Tuckers Brewery and now is an apartment/shopping complex beside Gleesons Sport Scene.
Dick Keanes is now a hell hole called TC's, owned by a Limerick legend, Tony Morris.
The Winning Post became Jack Rea's then Torlogh's and now is called Tom's Bar.
Rasher Kirbys on Gerald Griffin St, was Eddie Bensons, and now is simply known as Rashers.
This all gives me an ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Someone suggest a suitable route to and from the Jacks from the centre of town :)
Austin's, Charlie st George's, Rashers....
3 Good Safe pubs
Mojo's start out...then onto
Old Quarter, then onto
Nancys, then onto,
Flannerys, then onto,
Patsy Flannerys, (Wickham St), then onto,
Charlie St Georges, then over to
The Jacks.
Personally I'd do
Mojos
on to
Still House
on to
Patsy Flannerys
on to
Baker Place
on to
The Jacks
mojos????
its no wonder ye are always singing in the stand ye must be langered by the time the match kicks off going through all those pubs
Club sponsor...must be included in all pubcrawls involving matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by see's it
i agree....where is it?
Patrick St
the james joyce,who owns that now id never link that to limerick37 whats the connectionQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
The guy running the place is big into soccer around limerick isn't he......think he has actually moved to Foley's now.....i could be way off though. Mojo's have had Limerick37 flags up since nearly the start of the season aswell.
So the route before the next home game is:
Mojo's start out...then onto
Old Quarter, then onto
Nancys, then onto,
Flannerys, then onto,
Rashers, then onto,
Patsy Flannerys, (Wickham St), then onto,
Still House, then onto,
Baker Place, then onto,
Charllie St Georges, then over to
The Jacks.
Anyone else up for it besides me, jebus and I'm pretty sure Monkfish will do it aswell?? :)
Don't drag myself and Monkfish through the mud with you LtiD, we generally hang out at the gentleman's club and have a few brandies as you well knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Just fixed your post for you thereQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
:p :D
Sure dont you a Jebus already have your regular route?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Home.
Match.
Home.
Bar 3/Nevada Smiths.
Home.
Jeasus Joe, i can picture yourself in Johns square running with the 'crew' up to Mulgrave street in your diamond Pringle v neck top and Fila runners:)
So what was the craic back then? who were the biggest draw in terms of hassle? Shams, Waterford or Dundalk?
Great days definitely. Not sure about the whole league being better though. Plenty of clubs had poor attendances at that time - Cork united, Shels, Home Farm in particular. Even Bohs and rovers had poor enough crowds.
We probably should have won more than a league and a cup. We blew the league the following season after winning it - beat Dundalk in November to go 4 points clear. Lost abad game at home to rovers but just after christmas drew in Athlone and won in Sligo to be 3 points clear at the turn of the year with all our tough away games played. The previous year we had won a number of games with late goals but in 80/1 we were the dominant team and looked like winning the league easily. We totally collapsed after that.
The Grace era was one of many missed opportunities. There was £5,000 per week coming in from the club lottery. Crowds were good too but we were always 3rd or 4th and had some sickening cup defeats. 2 up v Galway in the semi final only to draw 2-2. They scored a freak goal in extra time in probably their only attack of the replay and the winners were in Europe. We lost a replay to 1st division Drogheda in 1989. a much weaker Cork City team beat us in 86. and don't get me started on where the money went.......
The potential is still there. Right through the 70's crowds weren't that great. You'd always get a big turnout for the cup and for the visit of Rovers (eventhough they were often poor) and the top teams of the time. The popularside was never really crowded until the league winning season.
Jaysus, is that what that place is called these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
What's it like??
This was 1980s Limerick man, I'd imagine anyone in a v-neck pringle top would have been automatically beaten up :)Quote:
in your diamond Pringle v neck top and Fila runners:)
EMFA :pQuote:
So what was the craic back then? who were the biggest draw in terms of hassle? Shams, Waterford or Dundalk
Maybe on the Fashionless Southside where you would have all been wearing donkey jackets and work boots (not that you worked or anything):) and where Bear USA hoodies, and the classic tracksuit pants and deck shoes combo is still the must have look since 1997:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Unbelieveable....ye have managed to turn a thread about the 1982 Cup Final into a fashion parade. Sweet Divine Jesus!!
Who could afford Fila runners in the 1980s?
Im trying to find out about matters off-field and on the terraces around that time, dont want to drag it too much off topic so please continue (your post had nothing to do with the topic either)Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Very true, were they even available in Limerick back then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Denim jackets, black jeans and side-lace shoes were very much part of the fashion in those days. And your denim jacket was usually covered in ska pin badges, or AC/DC, Iron Maiden ones. Crombie coats were also very much in, as was paisley. Paisley shirts, ties, socks...anything with paisley on it.
So there was a strong football/music link with the lads going to the games? obviously you cant compare us with the country we had at the time with the terrace fashions with a 'certain element';) on the terraces in England, Scotland and South Wales but certain details seem simular, where did the club draw it main support base from in your opinion? as in area of the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Now, now, I'll have you know that no one in Limerick worked beteewn 1978 and 1992Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
FACT!!!
Mainly the "fashionless" working class southside areas I'd imagine :)Quote:
where did the club draw it main support base from in your opinion? as in area of the city.
I wouldn't say there was a strong football/music link, but music was big business back then, especially live music. Limerick had legendary bands like Grannys Intentions, The Outfit and Tuesday Blue. The Boomtown Rats played in Johns Pavillion in the late 70's and Lizzy and Gallagher played the Savoy regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
Its hard to say what area of town the strongest suport base came from. Obviously Garryowen, because it was just on their doorstep. But they came from all over really.
I wouldn't bet on that. We tried the RTE archives for a copy of the Athlone Town vs AC Milan game and were unsuccessful. RTE had a habit of reusing tapes as a cost cutting measure especially if it wasn't GAAQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
I;ve heard that myself, can't remember in relation to what, but that they used to tape over some of their archive footage :rolleyes: ****ing Irish people strike againQuote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
Hassle was very rare in reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
Sligo league cup final 75 (home leg only)
A Waterford cup tie 81 I think
Shamrock rovers 84 I think
ran for our lives from Dutch hooligans in Alkmaar.
Things got a little ugly on the reserved terrace at Milltown one sunday in the mid 80's as we were the only 2 away fans on that side. My Dad was avoiding the Graces at the time as relations were not good.