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Heard Dunphy on the radio this morning and he mentioned that he' like Paul Jewell as next manager.
Not a bad choice. He's out of work at the moment and has done good jobs at both Wigan and Bradford.
He also mentioned Leo Beenhaker and Stephen Kenny.
I think Steve Coppell would be a good appointment as well
Good old Eamonn and then he'd be slagging him off after a few games and this is the muppet who was calling for a top class experienced manager last night :mad: Is this the same Paul Jewell sacked by Wednesday as he lead them towards relegation.
Je' despair.
Paddy Power have David O'Leary as favourite according to Newstalk
The same Stephen Kenny who's struggling to get a Dunfermline side up the Scottish first division table with a squad some SPL teams would love to have??
Numpty should really call it a day.
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
We havent a hope of getting someone like Coppell. No one is going to give up premiership wages and weekly football for international football and a much lower salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by colster
And so he should be.Quote:
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I'd rather keep Stan than O'Leary.
What about George Graham, John Gregory or Kenny Dalglish who was mentioned previously as being interested if memory serves?
Give it to Aldo..at least he's got some sort of track record in 1 off cup type games..hes good with the media..is passionate about Ireland..and knows how to get a team motivated. I'd have him in with Jewell.
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agree with the sentiments...FAI won't appoint him
Vicente Del Bosgue? (Ex-Madrid) Want to be a good package though.
Ruud Gullit?
Jack Charlton? ( Just one campaign, cmon!)
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Originally Posted by Scruttox
A track record from some 10 years ago!!! This was the same Aldo who was on Sky Sports who said a draw against Slovakia was a good result and a draw against the Czechs would be a good result. I think Jewell is a very good shout. Got the most out of a limited bunch. Also for the last game of last season they were away to Sheffield united and had to win to stay up. Against all odds they did and any manager that can do this obviously has some qualitiesQuote:
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Alright then,clone Ferguson.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Aldridge wouldn't be the worst choice. Jewell is interesting, not one I'd considered before but done well enough in the past.
Why in Gods name should Aldridge be considered. He had a couple of half decent cup runs with Tranmere some 8 years ago. Did nothing in the league, has not even been linked with a job sice which says it all. It will be the same story all over again if he gets the job. I can see the FAI sacking Staunton and hiring someone like McAteer. Wouldnt put it past Delaney
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Also the same Paul Jewell that worked miracles getting a shiite Bradford team into the Premiership then kept them there, then repeated this with a very ordinary Wigan side twice, reaching a League Cup final along the way...
Coppell would be perfect. I reckon he's on less than £1 million per annum and could be afforded. Whether he'd go for it though....doubtful
It's as important to know who you don't want for the job also.
Aldo is a likeable bloke but wouldn't being a hell of a lot more to the party that Stan does. Judging from previous interviews - Aldo isn't as sussed tactically / managerially as some make out. Are we really satisfied with a half decent tenure at Tranmere as sufficient?
We really need to get away from the "recent ex player" crop of potential managers - including O'Leary. They're too familiar with previous set ups and try to replicate flawed approaches.
If we're really serious about making a fundamental change, the FAI will have to create a short list that doesn't include: O'Leary, Whelan, Stapleton, Aldridge, Moran etc etc. Its the lazy option.
I think Jewell is a decent shout given how de-valued the Irish managers job has become. Various high profile names walked away from it in 1996 - never mind who'd be interested in 2007.
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Originally Posted by Wolfie
Yeah agreed, too many links to the old school. They'd be just FAI lapdogs.
Gotta be a European with his own way of doing things. And we have to be prepared to pay the spondulocks.
Vicente Del Bosque?
I'd definitely go for Jewell. Used to working with our level of players, you can be sure he'd pick a logical team and is undoubtedly one of the best motivators in the game. All this talk about top class managers is ridiculous, I'd take Jewell ahead of Capello, Del Bosque or any of them. This is not club football, you don't need to be a tactical genius. In fact, the more complicated tactical work you try to introduce, the more likely it is to go all wrong. At international level you don't have much time with the players. Pick the right team, be strong on set-pieces and get them motivated; believing in themselves, their manager and what they're doing. Let them play. Paul Jewell would do all that (He won't though, because we're stuck with Stan and there is absolutely nothing that we can do about it).
Very good point Wolfie but someone who has no history does not necessarily mean it'll work. The game is littered with managers from a different culture who were sacked when they they tried to change things to their way and it didn't work. Vogts, Le Guen, Gross to name but a few off the top of my head.
The only foreign name that I'd be 100% happy with is Hiddink but we've no chance there.
Russians are out now too, he is hardly going to stay around in Russia until 2010.but after getinng rid of the gaffaaaaa, would we have enough to payhim?
Yeah - it might be an unpopular view and I'll most likely get slated, but I'd like to see a (dare I say it) British coach appointed. I wouldn't like to see a continental coach appointed as it would swap one set of problems for another.Quote:
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A British coach, with some top level experience, who is aware of our teams background and players - but has not been directly immersed in the teams previous approches to things.
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It's also littered with foreign coaches who have brought great success. Rehhegel with Greece, Charlton with Ireland, Scolari with Portugal, Hodgson with Switzerland, Zico with Japan, Hiddink with Korea, Beenhakker with Trinidad etc....
hes so good at pointing out how bad others are etc and moaning but i dont see him applying for the job.and for him to say last night we need a world class manager and then to say this morning it should be paul jewell is pathetic.hes just looking for another easy target to moan about for a few years.has dunphy liked any irish manager we had?
as i said on another thread,im gonna email him today and ask him to apply for the job.hes good at telling people what they did wrong but why doesnt he then go show us all how to do it right?????
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1. Vogts in fairness took Scotland through a pretty bad patch and can be attributed with reworking the ideas of the Underage setup in Scotland.
2. LeGuen was undermined by the sheer stubborness of the teams most importanat player not to adapt.
3. Christian Gross was never wanted at Spurs, he was last in a long line of choices. It was a clear from day one when he had to get the tube to his unveiling as nobody in the club was bothered.
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No they're not :confused:
Roy Keane
He has bigger fish to fry....
And if the dugout didnt have a cushion he might walk outQuote:
Originally Posted by antrimgreen
And if the dugout didnt have a cushion he might take his dog for a walkQuote:
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At least he knows how to hold on to a lead :)
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I don't disagree but Ireland play with a British mentality so using Charlton as an example is hardly worthy. The only common denominator with all your examples is that even though the managers are different nationalities from the country they are/have managed, they are all with teams of decent technical ability.
That's a trait that's more or less the same of the country where they're originated from so it wouldn't warrant mass change or revolutionary systems.
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Originally Posted by antrimgreen
No point chopping and changing managers every campaign. Also Stan hasn't done as bad as everyone is making out. Not many people want to admit it but he has improved as the campaign has gone on and will be ready for international management by the time the next campaign comes around.
1. He also took them to the Euro2004 playoffs (vs the Dutch) which was further than we got in qualification for that tournament, your point 2 also applies to him (same player as well).Quote:
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3. He has since done fairly well at FC Basel.
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We are as good as out of our qualifying group with three games to go. Also we are in the poorest qualifying group by some distance. Dont try and put a good spin on it, Stan has done every bit as bad as everyone is making out. Our performances have not improved whatsoever, they just havent been as bad as in Nicosia. the only game where we played to our potential was at home to the Czechs when we let two valuable points slip away. Being as good as out of a qualifying campaign is something you expect from very middle of the road teams, such as Belarus, Latvia, Hungary or Bosnia. Not us, we are too damn good for that to happen and Stan has to be held responsible. Simple put we have been dreadful thropughout the campaign and finding any positives is a struggle. And dont come back with the crap that Stan brought through the young players. Had any other manager come in they would have had to use the younger players too.
Ha Ha!
Mike Newell