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12/09/2007, 9:16 PM
Reality Bites

Sad Sobering Fact I Fear

Dunphy hit the High notes tonight, I think he spoke for the fans with absolute clarity and no hidden agendas, Brady usually far more sober and it broke his heart to say it but admitted Stan must go!, why oh why does Football not work in a democratic fashion, the people will vent their rage on this forum, in the pubs around the country and among the travelling support, yet the autocrats in the FAI will ultimaltely decide the fate of this manager and sadly this batch of players, Its a sad fact but Stans tenure will be retained for next campaign and all the huffing puffing on this forum and the media will amount to nothing, oh yeah and Finally JOHN DELANEY IS A ****!!!
12/09/2007, 9:19 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by Reality Bites

the autocrats in the FAI will ultimaltely decide the fate of this managerFinally JOHN DELANEY IS A ****!!!

I had a call just after the final whistle and these are the exact words:

"If Steve decides to go, we [the FAI] will not stand in his way."

The source is very reliable though he could also just be putting it out there to see what the temperature is.
12/09/2007, 9:21 PM
Reality Bites

Temperature - CLOSE TO BOILING!!
12/09/2007, 9:23 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by Reality Bites

Temperature - CLOSE TO BOILING!!

...yes, but they are in Prague and would need to work out the PR angles before they arrive home. Like for instance who to put out to hang on tlak radio tomorrow;)
12/09/2007, 9:24 PM
DeNiro

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Originally Posted by soccerc

I had a call just after the final whistle and these are the exact words:

"If Steve decides to go, we [the FAI] will not stand in his way."

The source is very reliable though he could also just be putting it out there to see what the temperature is.

We'll I reckon he knows that if he puts it out he knows what the reaction will be. 100% agreement with the FAI not standing in his way. I expect Staunton to go now.
12/09/2007, 9:25 PM
shakermaker1982

who in their right mind would wanna manage us? Brian Kerr, John Aldridge and.... ok I'd have a go. I'm not too bad on football manager 2007. On a more serious note for 400,000 euro's who'd wanna come to Dublin?
12/09/2007, 9:26 PM
IsMiseSean

Its not often I agree with Dunphy but he hit the nail on the head tonight, Staunton must go! I dont think he has what it takes to be a manager at any level, the team have looked unorganised and when you think about we have had maybe only one good performance under his command, we might have gone 8 games unbeaten or whatever it was but we struggled in some of them victories and got lucky alot. But I think Delaney will back the Staunton and we will be stuck with this fool for the World Cup Qualifiers. If there is anything WE as fans and lovers of Irish soccer can do, we gotta do it!!!
12/09/2007, 9:26 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by soccerc

...yes, but they are in Prague and would need to work out the PR angles before they arrive home. Like for instance who to put out to hang on tlak radio tomorrow;)

Where is Sir Bobby at the moment?
12/09/2007, 9:28 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by JGKyne

I think Delaney will back the Staunton

That's not the impression I got during my telephone conversation with my source. He rang me too!
12/09/2007, 9:28 PM
shakermaker1982

if he had any sense Bobby would be tucked up in bed and well away from sky sports 2!!! Watching us is not good for your health.
12/09/2007, 9:30 PM
Reality Bites

Open season now for the wish list manager forum!
12/09/2007, 9:31 PM
IsMiseSean

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Originally Posted by soccerc

That's not the impression I got during my telephone conversation with my source. He rang me too!

I hope your right and Staunton is gone by the German game :)
12/09/2007, 9:36 PM
greendeiseboy

We can all speculate........ but in all fairness staunton has no intention of leaving and oscar wilde has no intention of sacking him
12/09/2007, 9:38 PM
Reality Bites

Oscar Wilde - Brillant!
12/09/2007, 9:42 PM
Aaron

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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

who in their right mind would wanna manage us? Brian Kerr, John Aldridge and.... ok I'd have a go. I'm not too bad on football manager 2007. On a more serious note for 400,000 euro's who'd wanna come to Dublin?

Yea I agree, who would want to manage us, that could be the fear in the FAI if they got rid of Staunton. I personally would like to see either Stephen Kenny or David O'Leary get a crack of the whip. Any other suggestions
12/09/2007, 9:45 PM
Reality Bites

David O'Leary don't really like him but probably the best option for now!
12/09/2007, 9:46 PM
IsMiseSean

Does anyone think we should think about going down the foreign manager route?
12/09/2007, 9:46 PM
Maroon 7

Everyone in the country knows Staunton should go but Stan has no intention of going anywhere and we all know the FAI aren't going to give him the bullet.
12/09/2007, 9:50 PM
brine3

I don't blame Stan so much for what has happened. He wasn't up to scratch, but that was to be expected, he didn't have the experience. He was asked to manage his country and he grabbed it with both hands. I'd have done the same, and I'd have been **** too, as I have no experience in football management.

It's the FAI's fault for appointing him in the first place. Everybody knew it was the wrong decision but them.

Big countries can get away with appointing unexperienced former players as manager. They have the players for it. We don't. We need to get every single last drop out of the few decent players we have, and for that we need a good manager.
12/09/2007, 9:51 PM
Aaron

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Originally Posted by JGKyne

Does anyone think we should think about going down the foreign manager route?

Absolutely not!! I'd prefer an Irishman, someone who knows what the fans want and what it takes, not many out there but IMO we should not go down the route of appointing foreigners
12/09/2007, 9:52 PM
brine3

I really don't care as long as we get somebody who can manage a football team.
12/09/2007, 9:53 PM
Reality Bites

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Originally Posted by Maroon 7

Everyone in the country knows Staunton should go but Stan has no intention of going anywhere and we all know the FAI aren't going to give him the bullet.

As per point in starting thread -thought Tony O'Donoghue post match interview as very telling indeed, 'Finally Steve is it now time to Reflect' Stan "No I am staying on building team for WC qualifiers blah blah blah etc" Stan will have to be pushed and Oscar Wilde ain't the man to do it, can't show up his poor choice!!
12/09/2007, 9:56 PM
IsMiseSean

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Absolutely not!! I'd prefer an Irishman, someone who knows what the fans want and what it takes, not many out there but IMO we should not go down the route of appointing foreigners

But is there a top quality Irish manager out there???
12/09/2007, 9:59 PM
Stuttgart88

David O'Leary is a self serving snake, but I'd hire him in an instant at this stage.

In an odd way, watching RTE was a privilege tonight. Sorry Owls Fan but dunphy was faultless. Bill " I learnt TV presenting on the job". Eamon: " Would you let hin [ a rookie] drive the train to Cork?". Don't shed any tears for a well piad man losing his job. Sorry Stan, you meant well but it just ain't gonna happen. Get a job in club football, learn your trade and if in 5-10 years time you're a proven success apply again. Dunphy was right, WE deserve better. I maintain as a mantra that you only need 5 or 6 really good players and the rest need only be good enough. We have at least that situation now.

Once O'shea's injury forced his hand into playing what almost all of us here wanted, the team received a shot in the arm that if we'd had from the start it may well have been different.

Stan doesn't deserve any of the more vitriolic attacks on him that have been made here but at the same time I hope he's big enough to admit he just isn't good enough. I know he cares but then again we all do. At least the players showed THEY care tonight I thought.

Good news soccerc if you're right.

can anyone post tonight's panel on youtube? Sheer quality broadcasting.
12/09/2007, 10:00 PM
Aaron

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Originally Posted by JGKyne

But is there a top quality Irish manager out there???

I dont know, its just my opinion that an Irishman should be in charge, who has managed at a high enough level. O'Leary is one, OK Kenny hasnt managed at a high enough level but is worth a try, Aldo is another i'd consider, but an Irishman it should be IMO.
12/09/2007, 10:12 PM
drummerboy

I think O'Leary would be a good choice. I know he is hard to take at times but at least he would be able to organise the team. Thats basically all we need. Hopefully the likes of Finnan and Carsley decide to soldier on and hopefully we will have Stephen Reid, Joey O'Brien, Duffer and Potter back soon. Staunton was always a bad choice. I feel sorry for a man who served his country well, but he has been put in this situation by Delaney. Delaney shoudl go.
12/09/2007, 10:13 PM
billybunter

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yea I agree, who would want to manage us, that could be the fear in the FAI if they got rid of Staunton. I personally would like to see either Stephen Kenny or David O'Leary get a crack of the whip. Any other suggestions

john sheridan, jose pekerman, john aldridge, roy keane (part time)
12/09/2007, 10:15 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Its just my opinion that an Irishman should be in charge, who has managed at a high enough level. but an Irishman it should be IMO.

Paddy Walker is available ;)
12/09/2007, 10:15 PM
Closed Account 2

F**k it I'd take anyone else as manager now... Berti Vogts, Roy Hodgson, Gay Byrne even.

Seriously though, get shot of Stan asap, appoint someone with a short term contract thru to the end of the Euro 2008 qualifiers with a view to assuring 3rd place and getting decent performances. And if that happens make them permanent.

We risk falling off the radar unless the FAI act now.
12/09/2007, 10:17 PM
R�iteoir

Bring Roddy in
12/09/2007, 10:22 PM
Aaron

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Bring Roddy in

Unfortunately for Ireland Jim wants to stay with Dery City:D
12/09/2007, 10:28 PM
Closed Account 2

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Bring Roddy in

F**k it - Roddy Doyle probably knows more about football than Stan
12/09/2007, 10:31 PM
Soko

He doesn't have to Irish, it doesn't even need to be a he - just get that plonker out of here
12/09/2007, 10:46 PM
Naitch

I really believe we should look at a non Irish/British manager. We need to change our style of play do adapt to the international scene.
12/09/2007, 10:47 PM
Risteard

Whats with the over-reaction lads?
We lost the qualifying race in Cyprus and Slovakia.

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Originally Posted by brine3

I don't blame Stan so much for what has happened. He wasn't up to scratch, but that was to be expected, he didn't have the experience. He was asked to manage his country and he grabbed it with both hands. I'd have done the same, and I'd have been **** too, as I have no experience in football management.

It's the FAI's fault for appointing him in the first place. Everybody knew it was the wrong decision but them.

Big countries can get away with appointing unexperienced former players as manager. They have the players for it. We don't. We need to get every single last drop out of the few decent players we have, and for that we need a good manager.

Agree completely.
Delaney is not fit to choose a successor.
As regards falling off the radar, were Slovakia not seeded above us?
We're third seeds apparently for the World cup groups.
12/09/2007, 10:57 PM
The Legend

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Originally Posted by Soko

He doesn't have to Irish, it doesn't even need to be a he - just get that plonker out of here

Hilary Clinton?

but on a serious note, im f**king sick of this sh*t... this sh*t being the FAI.

Good f**king luck against Germany!
12/09/2007, 11:00 PM
danonion

Mick McCarthy
12/09/2007, 11:03 PM
sonofstan

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerc

I had a call just after the final whistle and these are the exact words:

"If Steve decides to go, we [the FAI] will not stand in his way."

The source is very reliable though he could also just be putting it out there to see what the temperature is.

I don't know who your call was from, but basically what you're saying is that the FAI - which means JD - are now spinning against Staunton; which is pretty disgusting.
12/09/2007, 11:11 PM
Closed Account 2

Yeah but they wont sack him, they're too tight-fisted to do that! I know Aldo would take the job and take it on half what Stan is being paid.
12/09/2007, 11:14 PM
DaveyCakes

How long is his contract? Don't tell me is to the end of the next qualifying campaign...:eek:

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