Nice to hear someone like brady recognise the National League and quality of player coming from it on RTE tonight
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Nice to hear someone like brady recognise the National League and quality of player coming from it on RTE tonight
Passing comment really.
What did he say?
Nothing .... compared to the years of slating. eL fans will hardly even acknowledge it given his treatment of domestic football in the past. In short, its a nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Doesn't past dismissal of the league mean that his words actually kinda mean more?
Every little helps.
i cant stand brady.
hes only a **^%$£%
Jaysis can't believe there's a thread about this. Let alone "hailing" the eL.
Can't remember Brady ever slating the league
Can't believe anyone things he's an **^%$£%
Come off it DodgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Well theres two of us, is it more believable now?Quote:
Can't believe anyone things he's an **^%$£%
Seriously, when did he slate the league? Genuine question. Never heard him do it. have heard the rest do it enough
Not so much recently to be fair (well he'd look a fool if he did in the last four years) but definitely going back before that. I can remember threads as far back as Johnny Wards where people were trying to argue that it was OK for him to be dismissive of the league but in the same threads the same people couldn't justify some of the harsher comments he made. There was one particular thread where he had told blatant lies and people were trying to analysis his motive for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Edit: I'll be honest here aswell, i dislike the guy because he offers nothing to domestic football. He came from a time when literally 80% of the team were English but using the granny rule. He WAS an actual Irish man and never gave anything back. At a time when there were few true Irish role models, he could have been one but never stepped up to the plate.
Before anyone jumps on this, i have discussed this for years in countless threads and conversations in the pub. I have never gotten a reasonable reason to contest my opinion or make me even consider reconsidering. If no one offers anything decent then i will not be discussing it further. He failed domestic football, end of.
I can't remember him ever slating the league either, probably just your stereotypical eircom League fan siege mentality over-reaction to a minor criticism. And if it was as far back as Johnny Ward's message board, it was probably a justified criticism of the professionalism, or lack thereof in the league. Can't believe anyone thinks he's an arsehole, great analyst in my opinion… apart from when it comes to Arsenal related matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Was he not a role model on the pitch? What could he have done differently?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Brady's comment was strange to hear, but it was a passing tipping of the hat to the fact three players playing were in the LOI recently. Positives to be taken from this: he didn't call it the irish league. After that, not sure a thread is deserved, makes the LOI fans appear quite desparate for some love from the pundits.
Another Interview with Brady : He said we need to Develop from the Ground level in order for us to have a better England team and English players in the EPL.
Was that an interview with him in the context of his Job as youth development officer for English Premier League side Arsenal by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForzaHoop
So Brady criticised the LoI back in the day when the standard was muck and is giving it a bit of credit now that its improved?
Can't see much wrong there. Face, you're a hard man to please!
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Can't believe anyone things he's an **^%$£%
Well theres two of us, is it more believable now?
No, there are three of us. Great analyst my foot. 'Arsenal are great, Man Utd are crap, Chelsea buying success' . . blah blah blah. He is a prat.
Could be a siege mentality here I think. He basically agreed with Billo's assumption that credit must be given to the League of Ireland for the quality of the younger players coming into the Ireland Senior squad - 4 or so coming via eircom League teams in the few years or so. Echoes Roy Keane's compliments about the fitness and quality of the teams over here during the Sunderland tour.
This is not a sell-out!!! - it's just an example of how the League is gaining much more mainstream credability and there's no point people getting all high and mighty about it.
Also, Brady is alright so leave him alone.
Can't understand why anyone could not think he's a ****. He is the most one-sided anylist around when it comes to Arsenal, absolutely hates Man Utd and Chelsea, and his regular diatribes are funded by our tax, which makes it all the more disgraceful. His comments on the league aren't going to be the key to its successes and failures though, so I can't see why his opinion of the league is an issue. :confused:
I gotta say that I think the man's a knob. A superb footballer in his day, no question but a massive failure as a manager and a pundit thereafter. To me he comes across as smarmy, patronising and a yes man.
Quite simply, I don't like him....but that's just me.
I've no problem with Brady. He's the only member of the RTÉ panel who knows anything about modern football, especially outside Britain. Didn't hear his comments about the league, but he used to attend games at a kid and I've never heard him openly disdaining it.
Yep, he's the biased one :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
Brady is a superb analyst. He's without equal on any Irish or British station IMO. But because he doesn't fawn all over certain teams people think he's biased. BTW he has regularly criticised Arsenal, despite being employed by them
Yes. Saw the interview, it was on SKY. the subject was about the amount of clubs who 'buy-in' foreign players as opposed to developing them and how Arsenal are trying to redress the situation (ironic considering they were the first English team to field a totally non-English team iirc). The interview was from a background of how few transfers involved english players in the EPL as opposed to foreign ones. he was intewed in his capacity as 'Head of Youth Development' at Arsenal, not because he was a former professional footballer who repesented Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
Saw absolutely nothing wrong with his comments in this interview.
I like Brady myself. He was a class footballer, is a knowlegable pundit and the fact he has been at Arsenal for so long in his present role indicates he is good at his job.
BTW he owes nothing to the LoI as his route to football was by signing as a schoolboy with Arsenal. Had he taken a similar route to English football as, say Roy Keane, then I would expect him to be more vocal about the virtues of the eL.
I'm wholly in favour of this eL siege mentality thing if it means I get to pour boiling oil on people.
I also like the idea of randomly catapulting cows at them.
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Agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Oh, one thing dodge, i can guarantee you he's not a pats fan!!:D
Koh
He came out with a very postive comment about the league. By saying so he is finally acknowledging progress the league has made. There are two guys in my work who actually have discussed his comments and they are "Liverpool" fans who wouldn't know what colour Derry City play in.
On a side note, did anyone notice how alien it was for him and Giles to praise Ireland initially, they choked on their opening words. It must have been the only time they haven't had a moan.
He's no better a pundit than my cat. Part of the RTÉ's changing-more-than-the-wind panel about AC Milan and United last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
After Roma, "United will blow a poor ageing Milan side away, they are unstoppable"
....before the first leg: "Milan are too old and United will be all over them"
...after the first leg: "After Rooney's winner, I can't see United not winning"
....after the second leg: "Milan were too classy tonight for a naive United side"
....after winning the final "they are the best team in Europe"
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Have to be honest, this thread is in very poor taste lads. :( What if Liam's uncle, nephew or brother-in-law read this thread? They might be very upset to see people commenting on his opinions and mocking him.
I trust the mods will take appropriate action.
You'll probably remember his foaming at the mouth about Barcelona-Chelsea anytime they play. "I hope they go on and finish them off in the second leg". Without equal indeed. Well, maybe equal to Phil Thompson or someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
And last I heard fans are allowed to be biased btw :rolleyes::rolleyes: Y'know the way fans aren't paid to provide objective analysis n all...
Point I'm making is you only dislike him because he dislikes Mourinho and Chelsea's brand of anti-football.
If Chelsea ever play a team off the park with fast attacking play, I'm sure he'd applaud them. As it is he generally calls them efficient, and that he despises Mourinho
I disliked him before Mourinho ever came to England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I seem to remember Chelsea playing Barcelona off the park with fast attacking play at home a few years back. There wasn't much praise forthcoming to be honest. :rolleyes:
Chelsea win 4-2 and the game was remembered for a goal scored by a player from the losing team, which was all that was talked about afterwards.
Yes, especially as he doesn't seem right in the head. That Arsenal bias is unbelievable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
I did not hear what Brady said so I cannot comment on it. I don't remember him saying anything about the eL in the past good or bad...
I can tell you that Mr. Giles is no patron of the eL. Heard him last year being asked if we should be looking for the eL for more players after Kevin Doyles success & he was very dismissive just saying that the good players will always go abroad. He couldn't even suggest that the eL be developed to give more options. Seems like he holds a grudge longer than Dunphy :rolleyes:
I thought he came out with the statement unprompted, but either way it was a nice thing to say, when very little nice things are said about the eL on telly, but no more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJTheGull
Brady, BTW, is a top analyst, and very much not a yes man as stated elsewhere. In actual fact at times he seems to delight in taking the opposite view to Giles (a joyless grinder in comparison) and Dunphy (the Eoghan Harris of punditry, and that's not a good thing), and to call him biased because he doesn't fawn all over Man Utd and Chelsea is just... not right.
Also, pointing out random predictions he got wrong does not make him a bad pundit.
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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Come off it, after the years of neglect and cynicism people should be burning effigies of the man, very upset indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Em.... don't think you quite got that one face!
Sorry but whats wrong with that? After United blew Roma away there were plenty who said they would be too much for Milan's defence, it was the sensible thing for a pundit to say, in fact I was the only person I know who didn't think that, and that was because I'm so staunchly against anything United that I couldn't see past it. What he said after the Roma game is what he said before the first leg, so why does that warrant two seperate points? As for Rooney's winner comment, again most people thought that at leats United would get a draw in Milan as they were scoring goals for fun around that time, sensible thing to say again if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx-
Then when Milan beat United roundly, well it showed up most football people, Brady wasn't alone in that respect, and when they won the Final with ease, well how could you not say they weren't the best team in Europe that year? They blew United and Liverpool out of the water, Chelsea didn't win anything significant last year, Spainish clubs had a poor season in Europe, Bayern were a joke, and Inter didn't show up in Europe again. Pretty accurate to call Milan that if you ask, and if football isn't about revised opinions then I don't know what is. Last year's thoroughbred becomes this year's donkey in a lot of people's eyes quite frequently.
Brady was a credit as a player (greatest Irish player of all time in my opinion), and is still a credit as a pundit