Predictions for the coming season in England

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09/08/2007, 8:34 PM
bennocelt

Predictions for the coming season in England

Who do ye guys fancy?

Prem:
1) Chelsea
2) Man utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool

good season for Sunderland and Bolton

relegation for Derby, Man City and Wigan

i reckon Roy Donovan will be a good signing for Roy, and Mcshane will have a great season
Chelsea have a better squad, and if man utd have a few injuries then they might suuffer, and have paid a lot of money for unproven talent
I think Bolton still have most of the team as last season with a few good additions , and might be freer without sam allrdices boring football....maybe!

Championship:
Southampton, Wolves and West Brom to do well

First Div:
walsall, Oldham and Millwall (great end of season form.....can they continue it into the new season?)

Sec Div:

Shrewsbury and Stockport

conference:

Oxford...............shouldnt mess up this time

:)
10/08/2007, 9:38 AM
reder

PL:

1) Man Utd
2) Liverpool
3) Chelsea
4) Arsenal

Relegation:

Sunderland
Derby
Fulham or Birmingham.

Championship:
Charlton (Expect and want them to get promoted), Wolves (Hope to god they get promoted) and West Brom to do well
10/08/2007, 1:04 PM
Cymro

Premiership:

Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool

Down: Sunderland, Birmingham, Derby

Championship

Promoted: Wolves, West Brom, Charlton

Relegated: Colchester, Barnsley, Hull

League One

Promoted: Nottm Forest, Swansea, Doncaster

Relegated: Leeds, Huddersfield, Port Vale, Bristol Rovers

League Two

Promoted: MK Dons, Grimsby, Stockport

Relegated: Accy Stanley, Morecambe

Conference:

Champions: Oxford, Promoted: Cambridge
10/08/2007, 1:17 PM
jebus

Premiership
1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Arsenal

18. Birmingham
19. Wigan
20. Derby

Championship
Promoted
Charlton
Wolves
Southampton

Relegated
Barnsley
Scunthorope
QPR (hope they don't though)

League One
Promoted
Nottm Forest
Millwall
Swansea

Relegated
Leeds (Please Jesus!)
Hartlepool
Cheltenham
Yeovil

League Two
Promoted
MK Dons
Wycombe
Bradford
Dagenham

Relegated
Morecombe
Barnet

Conference
Promoted
Oxford
Cambridge
10/08/2007, 3:31 PM
Cymro

I think Leeds will almost certainly go down now with their penalty. Jesus won't be needed on that one.
10/08/2007, 3:42 PM
Lionel Ritchie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymro

I think Leeds will almost certainly go down now with their penalty. Jesus won't be needed on that one.

Jesus can suck my balls too :p

15 points ??!!?? Tis but a scratch! 65 and we stay up. 90 and we're in the play offs.

I'll concede the cross-eyed midgets target of 105 to win the thing outright might just be a bridge too far though. :)

Bring it on.
10/08/2007, 4:01 PM
Cymro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

Jesus can suck my balls too :p

15 points ??!!?? Tis but a scratch! 65 and we stay up. 90 and we're in the play offs.

I'll concede the cross-eyed midgets target of 105 to win the thing outright might just be a bridge too far though. :)

Bring it on.

Lionel, if you stay up, you should probably thank Jesus as opposed to saying he can suck your balls because I think you need a miracle. ;)

I dread to think what morale must be like at Leeds at the moment and while I do have some sympathy for you I think it's going to be a hard season. No money, young kids in the team, off field distractions and now this penalty, in an extremely competitive division (and let's not forget that Leeds have a certain reputation which will spur all your opponents on to beat you) all adds up to big worries in my opinion.
10/08/2007, 4:37 PM
jebus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymro

I dread to think what morale must be like at Leeds at the moment

Probably the same feeling of self-loathing and personal disgust as has been the norm at Elland Road for many a decade now :p
10/08/2007, 6:15 PM
Torn-Ado

Premiership:

Chelsea
Liverpool
Man Utd
Tottenham
---------
Fulham
Derby
Wigan

Championship:

Sheffield Utd
Wolves
Preston NE
10/08/2007, 6:29 PM
Lionel Ritchie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymro

Lionel, if you stay up, you should probably thank Jesus as opposed to saying he can suck your balls because I think you need a miracle. ;).

...maybe that is his thanks.

Even IF Jesus saves ...you know Tresor Kandol will blast the re-bound over the bar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymro

No money, young kids in the team, off field distractions and now this penalty, in an extremely competitive division (and let's not forget that Leeds have a certain reputation which will spur all your opponents on to beat you) all adds up to big worries in my opinion.

...yes we're particularly excited about some of the young turks we've coming through ...Thompson, Flo, Lewis.

I'd expect no less than for it to be a competetive division. I don't expect to hit the ground running either as most of the playing staff only signed up this week including keeper Casper Ankergren who has had no pre-season bar a run out with the kids against non-league Guisley. But we'll be okay though. Effectively sentenced to two seasons in this division is all. Anyway I'll repair to the pre-existing thread on Leeds points deduction for further discussion of this one.

As for the rest of them next season...

For the Premiership I'm going to fly in the face of percieved wisdom and common sense and say...

1. Arsenal
2. Man Utd
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Newcastle
6. Spurs

going down...

Derby, Fulham and Boro.

Championship:

Promoted -West Brom, Southampton, Coventry City.
Relegated -Scunthorpe, Colchester, Hull

L1

Promoted: Nottingham Forest, Luton Town, Oldham
Relegated - NOT Leeds ...dunno thereafter
10/08/2007, 6:38 PM
shakermaker1982

Man Utd to win the PL. Nani, Anderson, Tevez and Hargreaves will all be challenging for 1st team places whereas Sidwell and Pizarro etc are nothing more than fillers (from a chelski point of view). I think Arsenal will surprise a few people this year by running them a close 2nd.

Relegation from the PL will probably be Derby, Birmingham and Wigan. Bolton, Fulham and Boro to have poor seasons.

Forest will **** on League 1 this season!!
10/08/2007, 6:47 PM
4tothefloor

Premiership
1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs

Relegated
Wigan
Birmingham
Derby County

Championship
Promoted
Charlton
Southampton
Wolves

The Rest
Who cares?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

1. Arsenal
2. Man Utd
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Newcastle
6. Spurs

going down...

Derby, Fulham and Boro.

And people wonder why Leeds are where they are?! :D
10/08/2007, 8:06 PM
Cymro

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

The Rest
Who cares?

Just the small matter of about 350,000 fans per week ;)
10/08/2007, 8:10 PM
stojkovic

1. Scousers
2. Chavski
3. ManUre
4. Yids

Sunderland will finish 10th-14th.

Hope all our top Irish players have good seasons and injury free and we get a few young lads coming through. Would love to see Stokes, Doyle and Murphy knocking in the goals to keep Robbie focused.
11/08/2007, 8:35 PM
green army

1. man utd
2. liverpool
3.chelsea
4.arsenal.
next 3 spaces between spurs, blackburn and newcastle.

relegated: bolton, wigan, derby
11/08/2007, 9:45 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

relegation for Derby, Man City and Wigan

No chance of Man City being near relegation. A number of quality signings (including manager) added to a number of excellent players there already.

1. Man Utd
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Tottenham
5. Arsenal
6. Man City (maybe a bit of a long shot...)

Relegation:
18. M'Boro
19. Derby
20. Birmingham
12/08/2007, 10:04 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

No chance of Man City being near relegation. A number of quality signings (including manager) added to a number of excellent players there already.

we will see, maybe not relegated but def not much either

it will be a long season:)
12/08/2007, 10:59 PM
superfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

we will see, maybe not relegated but def not much either

it will be a long season:)

So you're already going back on your prediction?

West Ham may not be much of a test but City played well and earned the three points. They already look a lot better than they did last season.

I really struggle to understand your footballing knowledge, benno. What's your big problem with Sven?
12/08/2007, 11:17 PM
couchy9

1.man utd
2.liverpool
3.chelsea
4.arsenal
5.newcastle
6.tottenham

18.wigan
19.birmingham
20.derby

i expect liverpool to push a lot harder this season but its probably still 1 or 2 seasons away from the title...arsenal still have quality and will finish top 4.sunderland will be mid table.............middlesborough, bolton and wigan will struggle this season...........my dark horses this season are blackburn....watch this space......
14/08/2007, 5:55 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

So you're already going back on your prediction?

West Ham may not be much of a test but City played well and earned the three points. They already look a lot better than they did last season.

I really struggle to understand your footballing knowledge, benno. What's your big problem with Sven?

well superfrank you are still a young lad

well he isnt a coach, buys players just from watchin DVds, and isnt very good..............as we all saw during his england reign
but i also dont think man city have that good of a team

but as i said, it will be a long season, so there is no need to be going over our predictions just yet, one week in!
14/08/2007, 8:14 PM
superfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

well superfrank you are still a young lad

Firstly, don't patronise me. I may be 19 but I know plenty about football.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

well he isnt a coach, buys players just from watchin DVds, and isnt very good..............as we all saw during his england reign
but i also dont think man city have that good of a team

Badly? Under Sven they made the Quarter finals in the World Cup twice in 2002 and 2006. They made the Quarter finals of the Euros in 2004 as well. In that time they only lost two games: The 2-1 against France in 2004 and that can hardly be blamed on the manager, and the 2-1 against Brazil (who went on to win it) in 2002 where Seaman made the mistake for Ronaldinho's goal. In 2004 and 2006 they lost to Portugal on penalties. Again, you can't blame the manager there. In all three qualifying campaigns England topped the group and qualified automatically. Until the Northern Ireland defeat Sven's England team hadn't lost a qualifying game. What's so bad about that?

The English media crucified him because he was foreign and they thought the England squad were brilliant. Let's see how long McClaren lasts....

I've already highlighted his succesful club career, which is why he got the England job in the first place, and I ought to remind you he's at a club now. And if you think he did bad with the England team, well maybe the fact that he HASN'T signed ANY English players for an English club tells you what he thinks of the English players.

But what do I know? I'm just a "young lad".
15/08/2007, 11:44 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

Firstly, don't patronise me. I may be 19 but I know plenty about football.

Badly? Under Sven they made the Quarter finals in the World Cup twice in 2002 and 2006. They made the Quarter finals of the Euros in 2004 as well. In that time they only lost two games: The 2-1 against France in 2004 and that can hardly be blamed on the manager, and the 2-1 against Brazil (who went on to win it) in 2002 where Seaman made the mistake for Ronaldinho's goal. In 2004 and 2006 they lost to Portugal on penalties. Again, you can't blame the manager there. In all three qualifying campaigns England topped the group and qualified automatically. Until the Northern Ireland defeat Sven's England team hadn't lost a qualifying game. What's so bad about that?

I've already highlighted his succesful club career, which is why he got the England job in the first place, and I ought to remind you he's at a club now. And if you think he did bad with the England team, well maybe the fact that he HASN'T signed ANY English players for an English club tells you what he thinks of the English players.

But what do I know? I'm just a "young lad".

sorry i did actually patronise you, sorry for that:),
but your knowledge of football (like geography) is debatable

you are entitled to your opinion, and so far i cant really argue with you about man city, but if we are going by the league so far then spurs are relegated, man city and sunderland are in the CL, and its a barren season for manure utd:confused:

Sven and his quarter finals, blah blah blah, instead of telling me stats, i would prefer to talk about his tactics or lack of them, or his man mangement style, or his ability to have a team of world class players perform like headless chickens, which happened when he was manager of england. and thanks to my eyesight i saw for myself on TV, seeing is believing

and international football is a joke anyway
15/08/2007, 11:51 PM
gilberto_eire

i can safely say united have blown it after 2 games anyway i wouldnt back them at 3's now!!.... if there wasnt a team like chelsea around these days it wouldnt be too big a deal but ya cant afford to drop 4 points in opening 2 games and catch them!!... united had there best start to a league ever last yr and didnt win it by much!!....
16/08/2007, 8:45 AM
shakermaker1982

still early days yet. Liverpool could beat Chelski Sunday, Man Utd beat City and the gap is one point.
16/08/2007, 9:10 AM
Roadend

Writing off teams after two games, Sky really have a lot to answer for.
16/08/2007, 1:14 PM
superfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

but your knowledge of football (like geography) is debatable

Get over that, will you? Do you harass everbody who calls this island group the British Isles. It is the recognised name. Get used to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

you are entitled to your opinion, and so far i cant really argue with you about man city, but if we are going by the league so far then spurs are relegated, man city and sunderland are in the CL, and its a barren season for manure utd:confused:

I don't even know what you're on about here. I never made any predictions in this thread about how teams would do this season. You did and then you changed it very quickly when you said Man City would be relegated and then, just 3 days later, you said they wouldn't be. After one game. Why don't you read what you're typing before you go making a fool of yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Sven and his quarter finals, blah blah blah, instead of telling me stats, i would prefer to talk about his tactics or lack of them, or his man mangement style, or his ability to have a team of world class players perform like headless chickens, which happened when he was manager of england. and thanks to my eyesight i saw for myself on TV, seeing is believing

Football is based on results and it's proven that Sven gets results. How he does it? Who knows? But he did get them at club level and international level. After Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson, Sven's England's most succesful manager based on statistics.

I'll say it again, the English media overhyped the team which is why you're led to believe the England team is world class and should've won the World Cup. Personally, I wouldn't have Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Robinson, Emile Heskey, David James or Ledley King in any world class XI. You're clearly one of the English media's bitches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

and international football is a joke anyway

This is your best argument yet. Your entire anti-Sven debate has been based on Sven's international experiences, now you are discrediting international football. So what's your argument based on now?
16/08/2007, 8:15 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

Get over that, will you? Do you harass everbody who calls this island group the British Isles. It is the recognised name. Get used to it.

I don't even know what you're on about here. I never made any predictions in this thread about how teams would do this season. You did and then you changed it very quickly when you said Man City would be relegated and then, just 3 days later, you said they wouldn't be. After one game. Why don't you read what you're typing before you go making a fool of yourself.

Football is based on results and it's proven that Sven gets results. How he does it? Who knows? But he did get them at club level and international level. After Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson, Sven's England's most succesful manager based on statistics.

I'll say it again, the English media overhyped the team which is why you're led to believe the England team is world class and should've won the World Cup. Personally, I wouldn't have Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Robinson, Emile Heskey, David James or Ledley King in any world class XI. You're clearly one of the English media's bitches.

This is your best argument yet. Your entire anti-Sven debate has been based on Sven's international experiences, now you are discrediting international football. So what's your argument based on now?

wikipedia is a great thing:rolleyes:

sorry that my predictions are not always 100% accurate, its hard to do, especially so early on in the season,
by the way i did "tip" chelsea and sunderland
but we will see

results? yes you are right, england won nothing under Sven, not even near!!:rolleyes:

overrated? yeah they are, cause they always have rubbish managers who do nothing with them, but in terms of the actual players they have, they should do better, with a decent manager................Gerrard, Rooney, Ferdinand, Scholes, Cole, Carragher, terry....yeah you are right they are all crap:rolleyes:

international footy is crap, im sure if Alex ferguson or martin o Neill had the english team they would win a cup half asleep
16/08/2007, 9:21 PM
superfrank

I give up. Turn off Sky and stop reading the Sun and then I'll talk to you.
17/08/2007, 12:53 AM
fitzyjr

as much as dis hurts me:

Prem-:
1) chelsea
2)man utd, if were luky
3)liverpool
4)man city

arsenal to finish for uefa spot. they aint doing anyting much
for about another 2 years, until the kids have grown up.

relegation- middlesborough, derby and wigan

sunderland will finish mid-table. nowhere special but away from danger.

bolton are going to struggle in the premiership and in the uefa cup. ittle sammy hasn't got what it takes
17/08/2007, 6:02 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

I give up. Turn off Sky and stop reading the Sun and then I'll talk to you.

Actually the Sun, rubbish as it is, is very good for football, especially good tips for games

Anyway Superfrank who do you reckon will do well this season?:)
18/08/2007, 12:31 AM
superfrank

Haven't seen enough teams play.

But, having a quick glance, I'd say Newcastle will do (relatively) well. I'm not so sure about Liverpool. Awful lot of money spent on Torres and I don't know if he's worth it. I've only ever seen him play for Spain and I don't know if he fits into Liverpools style.
13/08/2008, 10:53 AM
shakermaker1982

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

Man Utd to win the PL. Nani, Anderson, Tevez and Hargreaves will all be challenging for 1st team places whereas Sidwell and Pizarro etc are nothing more than fillers (from a chelski point of view). I think Arsenal will surprise a few people this year by running them a close 2nd.

Relegation from the PL will probably be Derby, Birmingham and Wigan. Bolton, Fulham and Boro to have poor seasons.

Forest will **** on League 1 this season!!

I did pretty well on predictions for last season :D

some of you guys should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!