eduardo da silva from dinimo zagreb. i dont think he is worth 16.25m.
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eduardo da silva from dinimo zagreb. i dont think he is worth 16.25m.
The figure is supposidly closer to 6 Million. But it was reported on UEFA.com as 24million yoyos.
Personally I think the 6 million figure is closer to the truth.
dont know says 16m here http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=474813&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=2&title=Ed uardo+delight+at+'£16m'+switch
If that is a correct fee, then I think Wenger has made a major boob. For an extra few quid he could have got Eto
agreed dont think he is better than henry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
sources are now telling skysports it is closer to 8m http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=474813&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=2&title=Ed uardo's+Emirates+delight
The BBC seem to be following Sky Sports in their reporting, because BBC are now reporting 16million sterling.
It will probably only come to that with add ons. £8m upfront seems like a good deal given his goalscoring record.
In the Croation league though. Wouldn't be on par with Scottish football.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Almost 3 goals every 4 games is impressive in almost any league. 7 in 12 internationals too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Peter Thompson has scored 106 goals in 159 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Last season he scored 31 in 51
Season before he scored 48 in 58
His first season in senior football was 27 in 50.
Impressive goalscoring but he wouldn't be any higher than Championship standard(although I'm sure with better players around him, better trainers and better training techniques, he could turn into a real smasher)
My point is that this player is very much untested at a high level. Yeah he has a good international start, but statistics don't always tell the full story. Going by International goals, David Healy would be worth 35million lol.
Da Silva could very well be a great signing and bang in loads of goals, but I do not think I would risk 16 million on him when I know for an extra 5 million I can get a real cracker in Eto.
Shels been the Croatian League winners a few seasons ago. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
rte saying 6m pounds http://rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/0702/arsenal.html
With the conflicting reports, it would appear that 16mill is the max it could end up with probably a lot of clauses to be satisfied.
Where did ye get the idea that Eto'o is available for 21mill?
I doubt he'll be another Francis Jeffers.
Wenger knows what he is doing when he dabs into the foreign leagues.
Paper talk mate. I've seen 20-25 million mention in more than one place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
Except Eto wouldn't drop down a level to go to ArsenalQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
I can't believe people on here are doubting Wenger's ability to spot a good player. He has the best organised scouting operations in England, just look at the players he's gotten for a pittance over the years. Now he has to splash out but it's only fair really.
I'm sure there were similar discussions when Wenger paid £10m (iirc) for a sulky French right winger that flopped at Juve.......and look what happened.
As there were when Wenger paid £13m for Wiltoord & £8m for Jeffers. A good manager & finder of talent that he undoubtedly is there have been at least as many high profile flops as success's
Indeed. Also Reyes, bought him around the 20 million mark, seeling around the 8 million mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
Wenger a great coach/manager and I have huge respect for him. But if I where an Arsenal supporter I would be very frustrated here.
Arsenal should have won more leagues/trophies by now. But have flopped massivelly in recent times.
Wenger should try and buy a few players for NOW, not the future, because it seems the future will never come for Arsenal.
If theres one thing Wenger always has been above all else it's shrewd in the transfer market. Anelka, Henry, Ljungberg, Vieira, Fabregas, Toure etc have all been exceptioal signings.
Granted theres Pascal Cygan.......:rolleyes:
Steve, Reyes cost 10.5mill from Sevilla.
I think it might have been rising to 12mill on appearances (which probably won't be reached) but to say around the 20mill mark is an exageration.
Anyone know how good Da Silva is?
Sounds like a bigger gamble alright (unless its near the BBC figure) than his previous 'picking up rejected Frenchmen' strategy.
Like you said, he's probably looking for players for now rather than potentiol at this stage.
I reckon he's out the gap nest summer.
Every clubs going to have their flops but there were times when Wiltord and Reyes were unstopable. I don't recall Jeffers ever doing the job for Arsenal. Cygan wasn't that great either.
It's more often than not, Wenger will sign a player that's not well-known or is underachieving and will turn him into a better player. And he's done it far more often than other managers I can think of.
I've just checked, he signed for 9 million rising to 17 million depending on successes at Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
So I was wrong, but 17 million is still some whack. Although we will never know how much of the add-ons was satisfied. Probably around 13 or 14 million mark i would say, giving Arsenals lack of success in recent years.
Wenger has as many flops as any other manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
But where Wenger has it is, he buys in many players at small prices and if they are hits, then he has done great business. If they are flops, well it doesn't really get noticed as they didn't cost much.
Compare this to Alex Ferguson who doesn't often spend small.
He spend 27 million on Veron and he was a big flop and because of the price tag, it got niced(and rightfully so).
He also signed cruyff, Paborsky, Djemba Djemba, Bellion etc who didn't cost 10s of millions like Veron, but combined, it was a few expensive flops.
Liverpool/Newcastle have probably had more flops than the rest of the league put together though. Both teams keep on trying to buy the 1 man to win it for them, it is only now that both Liverpool and Newcastle are now realising it takes a team of 11 players to be successful, not just one talismatic player eg Gerrard for Liverpool, Shearer(obviously before he retired) for Newcastle.
Stephanofs. The worst defender I've ever seen in the Premiership.
In Wnger I/We trust. Yes there have been flops, but the gems more than make up for them. By the way Wiltord was no flop, loved by the Arsenal fans.... as for Reyes, he had his moments.. but I hate him:eek: :mad:
Thats well off the mark, Wenger has been the shrewdest manager in the transfer market by far, name me another manager who has come up with the likes of Anelka, Vieira, Fabregas, Pires, Ljungberg, Henry, Clichy and Toure? Sure there have been misses with Reyes, Cygan, and Jeffers, but I'd only count Jeffers as being apart of Wenger's big mistakes, as Reyes problem was his lack of dedication, not skill, when they bought him any manager in the world would have done so at that price and Cygan was never bought to set the world alight, especially given his transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
And in fairness Steve Bruce, you go on about Da Silva being untested, but in the Buys of the Summer thread you agree that Nani is a snip at £16million, when he is equally untested in a league like the Premiership