What is your preferred choice of next government.
I have tried to add all possibilities within reason.
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What is your preferred choice of next government.
I have tried to add all possibilities within reason.
Someone forgot the poll...
Anarchy then, yeah?
Too many possibilities?!
Too few I'd say.
Impatient bunch :(
I have tried to give all available options assuming seat numbers within reasonable expectations. e.g. no FG & PD option as number would never add up.
Well, I really don't think it will make any difference in reality so I've gone for FF and SF because I believe it would do those two parties the maximum damage. If there was an ALL ABOVE PARTIES TO MERGE - to cut the pretence theres any real difference between them, I'd have gone for that.
Labour to dump FG like a bad smell and jump into bed with FF, Pat Rabitte to resign as Labour leader to save his own personal reputation (but he'll still take up a Cabinet position).
PD's to be decimated.
Hopefully.
Also, as was stated on the Panel last night, loving the duplicity of FF refusing to share power with the Shinners whilst pushing for Big Ian to do the same in the North for the past 5 years........ kind of like their support for full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement including prisoner release in the North, until it got to Garda Jerry McCabe's killers.
Fianna Fáil and Labour, to see Rat Pabbitte use his best university-debating rhetoric to explain away his craven lust for power either as party leader and Tánaiste or as a principled, morally upright resigning dissenter ... who lands a ministry in a plumb department. That'd be great politics.
edit: D'oh! Just like OneRedArmy, then ...
Wow. I always thought that Dáil Éireann was a wildly different method of parliamentary government from the Northern Executive as defined in the Good Friday Agreement, meaning that, amongst other things, the term 'power-sharing' did not equate to the term 'coalition' by any stretch of the imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
You don't have to stretch the imagination too far, its simply a carve up of power and cabinet positions by the two sectarian wings of NI politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erstwhile Bóz
I know, and I'm not a fan of it (while not having any real alternative). Government in the 26 counties, though, is obviously run on a radically different basis and any attempt to imply that Sinn Féin's status is the same for the DUP as it is for Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, Labour, etc., is dishonest.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
FF and PD's/Labour.
As long as FG and the greens are nowhere near it..
how anyone could vote fianna fail after everything is beyond me..
crime, poor infastructure, hospitals are a mess and then bertiegate..i want to see change, first of all corruption should not be tolerated at all and then to see ff make all the promises they made in 2002 again..the same ones, because they really have done nothing
FG, Labour and the Greens but far from what I really want.
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
I'll settle for a change.
I see it as the most favourable and realistic alternative being offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
Fine Gael and Labour for me. It would be great if they could avoid adding the greens the new gov would start to look a bit soft if they did you did if you ask me.
Think its ingrained in many people to vote FF regardless because they think something bad would happen if they didn't.
voted Fine Fail and Labour. some change would be nice, but i really dont think enda kenny should be taoiseach
yeah sligobrewer thats a good question, FF the builders party, bunch of crooksQuote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
BUT have the opposition done enough do gain peoples confidence, i honestly dont think so, and thats why i hope fg/lab dont get into power, when have we seen Enda Kenny and Rabbite slamming the FF politicans on any issues, only now weeks before an election
better the devil you know...............
I'm for that tooQuote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
What has the alternative Government said that would make you think they'll change it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
I hate politicians who simply highlight the faults of the opposition and then promise they'll fix all that if elected.:rolleyes:
That may be around 70% of politicans but people who vote for them have themselves to blame when in 3 years nothing has changed.
Look at the party manifesto's...don't just highlight all that;s wrong with Ireland and persume the other parties will fix it.
Inda Kinny convinces me less and less by the day.
Its real rock and a hard place stuff.....
Was talking to a FF strategist last night and despite the positive polls recently they are **** scared of the rainbow coalition becoming a reality.
Greens appear to be sliding alarmingly which is disappointing.
Fianna Fáil should have more faith in the repugnance of Rabbitte and the cackness of Kenny. ****e opposition looks like saving them yet again.
More people want change though.
Most recent polls (including the small one up there) show that fg/lab/greens will outweigh any ff combination bar Labour
Pat Rabbitte wont go into coalition with Bertie, and every other party bar Sinn Fein would rather be in opposition than in power with Fianna Fail. What does that show you?
Why did Bertie suddenly change his mind and take the FG stance on the Nurses dispute, but then rubbish FG?
Why did Brian Cowen say continually that he wouldn't change Stamp Duty, but then suddenly say that he will?
FF know that change is coming and they're desprete, reducing themselves to auctioning votes.
conor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
You are from Galway, right? Look at how FF planning and poor infrastructure have come to light.
Water, Public Transport, Schools?
Our 2nd level education system IS A JOKE!
I think what he's saying though is its all very well to highlight that, come on its hitting you in the face, but do you really think this opposition will change things substantially.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Easily the biggest u-turn of the election so far. If FF really believed in this why did they not implement in the budget? Hilarious that FF criticising the opposition of auction politics. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
in fairness bp, it cant get much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
and yes.. i believe they would have put in the infrastructure before these 'devolpments' got approval. ff just want to help their builder buddies
Well Fingal which has been worst hit by planning madness has been under the control of a FG/Lab coalition at council level for the last few years and, quell surprise, the developers have had a free reign. For the period before that the coalition at council level was FF/FG.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
When we have argued the case for halting developement until the required infrastructure is in place, the supposed opposition voted against.
My true option isnt there so have settled for FG, Labour & Greens and would settle for them in reality too. Anyone but Bertie would make me happy. Have had dealings with the man in the past and he disgusts me. How he has remained leader for so long is beyond me. Shame on FF for supporting such a despicable person. I wish could say more, but I dont want foot getting into trouble so will just say he is the kinda lowlife who ranks in my top 3 lowlife chart.
With more parties ruling themselves out for sharing with other parties seem to be only 2 choices.
FF & Labour or
FG, Labour & Greens
I wonder how many people who vote for Labour would be disappointed if they brought FF back into government?
IMO FG are picking up all the alternative government votes which is why Labour not gaining votes. The left wing parties are picking up the general anti status quo vote.
I'd prefer Fianna Fail and the Greens. Not the most likely of combinations, I know. I admire the honesty of the Greens in their approach to tax cuts or lack of and I'd hope they'd bring a dimension of social responsibility to the government. I'm not all that fond of FF but I don't like the FG/Labour coalition either. Pat Rabbite is particularly unpalatable. I certainly don't want to see any coalition involving SF or PDs.
C'mon Magicme, spill!Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
Minds outta the gutter & I mite!Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
Never!
what would be your true option?Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
if i could vote..i do everything i could to keep bertie out.
Are you for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Things have never been so good.All you have to do is look back 20 years and you'll see how things could be worse.Ludricous statement.
You're either still living at home with your parents or you are one of very few fortunate individuals. I don't remember my dad having to get up at six in the morning for work, or needing to make 70 mile round trips to work every day. Don't remember there being a problem with getting me into a school. Can't seem to remember us having a third world health service back then either. You don't see families able to survive on one income any more either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
Did your dad have a job and a car back then? Lucky him!Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
They're all results of our success in a way.
Also the Traffic bedlam and crazy times for departure is a Dublin problem not a nationwide one.It is heavy at rush hour,granted,but we're not as misfortunate as those in certain Dublin areas.
The Health sector is in definite need of reform-true.