Derry City 2-1
Drogheda United 5-2
Cork City 7-2
Bohemians 5-1
St Pats 11-1
Sligo Rovers 33-1
Shamrock Rovers 33-1
UCD 50-1
Galway 66-1
Bray 66-1
Longford 80-1
Waterford 80-1
From paddypower.com
No odds for first division yet.
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Derry City 2-1
Drogheda United 5-2
Cork City 7-2
Bohemians 5-1
St Pats 11-1
Sligo Rovers 33-1
Shamrock Rovers 33-1
UCD 50-1
Galway 66-1
Bray 66-1
Longford 80-1
Waterford 80-1
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No odds for first division yet.
The first division odds were up a few days ago but I suppose they'll have to rejig them now shels are demoted.....
The few I can remember are:
Wexford 40-1
Kilkenny 40-1
Monaghan 22-1
Cobh Ramblers 12-1
Dundalk favs and Waterford were second favs.
Odds from ladbrokes.ie
Derry City 2/1
Drogheda Utd 9/4
Cork City 10/3
Bohemians 9/2
St Patricks Athlethic 12/1
Shamrock Rovers 18/1
Sligo Rovers 25/1
Galway Utd 40/1
Bray Wanderers 66/1
UCD 80/1
Longford Town 80/1
Waterford Utd 80/1
Boyles Sports
Derry City 9/4
Drogheda Utd 5/2
Cork 4/1
Bohemians 5/1
St Patrick's Athletic 14/1
Shamrock Rovers 25/1
Sligo Rovers 40/1
UCD 66/1
Galway 80/1
Longford Town 80/1
Bray Wanderers 150/1
Shamrock Rovers as low as 18/1 and up to 33/1....... some real gogs*ites out there
They're very generous odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I reckon great value for City given that there's a striker pending.
Also if you put any amount on each of those three teams equally, you get a safe return.
I'd be confident enough that Bohs/Pats won't win the league.
TBH Risteard I'd have pats ahead of Cork (and I'm usually quite pessimistic regarding our chances)
Our Defence and Midfield matches up with anyone in the league and O'Neill is a great striker. Unfortunately we've very little else up front and if he's injured we're screwed. Our manager is rubbish too but compared to Cork's defensive problems (Murphy and Bennet gone, maybe Hoggy too), still no replacements signed for GOC, Fenn or Doyle (not to mention O'Flynn's perennial injury problems) and your star new players having serious injury concerns too, I'd be confident we'd at least match Cork. If we sign Paisley 9as strongly rumoured) and another quality striker I'd be more than happy with out squad
In terms of betting I think the markets have it right with little to choose between Derry and Drogheda. Can't see why Bohs are so short either.
Well i happen to think my team is better than yours.:p
Won the league without replacing Doyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Were in the race with a game or two last season without Georgie also.
Roy up front instead of Fenn which means a more direct strategy anyway.
A few weeks work on our defence and we should know where we stand.
What starting line-up are ye looking at?
-----------------------Ryan-------------------
Brennan - Foley - Maguire - Frost
Kirby - Fahey -Mulcahey - M. Foley
-----------------------Ndo-------------------
------------O'Neill---------------------------
If we sign Paisley he might be in the defence somewhere. I'd prefer Brenann at centre half. Kirby, Fahey and Mick Foley all interchangable, with Sean O'Connor and Ryan Guy out and out wingers when we need to add pace
In light of Cork's recent signings it's probably safe to say they're comfortably ahead of Pat's, Dodge, particularly as you have only one striker who was third-choice at Shels last season (albeit a decent player; how he'll fare as the leading striker in a team remains to be seen).
Well we've got rid of Digger...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
When you match up Rico v McDonnell theres a clear winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by JW.
Undoubtably Pete. Disagree there's a clear advantage in the squads.
Either way neither side are good enough to challenge Derry or Drosg (unless both managers fail)
IMO the Derry City squad has gone backwards & has certainly not improved but given they been so close in last 2 seasons have to be favourites. We will be able to compare Fenlon & Kenny though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Given the squad they have (more or bought the Shels midfield) its amazing Drogs at 5/2. I think this is to do with Doolin who I don't think can cut it.
i'd be surprised, nay amazed if our starting line up looks like Dodge's post there. We have a lot of younger strikers - but you know the deal with them - they'll either be the best thing ever, breath of fresh air and all that or playing for Monaghan before you can say....whatever happened that young lad pats had?
Rooney or Quigley will start up front for Saint Pats v Porty on Down
MMmmmm side wager of €10? I'll give you both of them...
Why shouldn't Cork challenge? Shels are gone, Derry are probably a bit worse and Cork are probably only a bit worse as well.
I've backed Pat's at 33 but was hoping you'd have signed a striker whose name isn't Vinny Arkins by now!
bet you never thought our leadind striker's age would be bigger than the price you backed us at!
dodge...matched.
Too right :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wws
Cork are more than a "bit worse". They've lost 3/4 of their back four from last season, as well as their main link up player up front. Farrelly was an avaerage player in a shocking Bohs side last year and Healy hasn't played for anybody in two years. Their left back will be eiother Billy fooking Woods or the UCD sub left back from last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by JW.
IMO Cork have plenty of problems where as we have only 2. Lack of strikers and a **** manager. There's little between us IMO.
I've backed us to win the Setanta group at 4/1. Again I'd be hoping we signa striker before the deadline
We have lost one starting player (Forde) who was considered to be a liability by many on here and have signed an U21 international in Bermingham and proven players in Rodgers and O'Halloran.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
It may not be a Drogs or Bohs-esque buying spree but we certaintly aren't any weaker.
As point out, Cork's squad on paper has been weakened the most of all the top teams.
I wouldn't put money on us to win the league personally until a few games in.
We've had a weak pre-season, scored 2 goals in 4 games, let in 5 goals, and are playing with a second-string keeper.
It all comes down to how quickly it takes us to get back into the winning spirit. A first game at home versus Bray should hopefully help.
So have I (and Cork at 9-4).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Cork haven't lost Neal Horgan yet, and Billy Woods is a decent left-back. Full back is the least important position on the pitch. Bennett is the big loss alright.
They've potentially the best player in the league in Roy O'Donovan (who is like a new signing in a away as he only started playing up front at the end of last season), the best player in the league in Joe Gamble, and serious competition for places in midfield now. I can't agree that they'll be much worse.
time will tell i supposeQuote:
Originally Posted by JW.
the new season cant come quick enough
Team from last season
Devine
Horgan Bennet Murray Murphy
Lordan O'Brien Gamble Woods
Fenn O'Donovan
This season
Devine
Horgan O'Callaghan Murray Woods
Healy Farrelly Gamble Kearney
O'Flynn/Behan O'Donovan
O'Callaghan barely played last season. Murphy missed a lot of games due to suspension. Gamble missed 10 games due to suspension so could not top that. Bennet will be missed. Fenn was motivated last year as last year of contract. We finished 19 points ahead of Pats will thin as feck squad.
Derry City have lost some defenders & replaced with Rodgers (useless) & O'Halloran (City & then Shels reserve). O'Flynn was proven backup forward & Bermingham unknown. How will the team respond to Fenlon?
If Drogs had Rico, Fenlon or Kenny would win the league in a canter. Still amazed they did not go for Fenlon whose proven winner with the best squad.
4-1 on Pats for Setanta Cup group is great value as we start very slowly.
What are the odds on the use of an asterisk not being necessary at the bottom of the league table this year? Or in any one of the next ten years? When was the last time there WASN'T a points deduction in either division? Even apart from the Shels situation, it's a banker that there'll be a few deductions for unregistered players or maybe even a club or two collapsing mid-season again.
It will be a sign that the league is finally on track the first year that there are no asterisks required.
(By the way, if anyone gets a POTM nomination for references to Asterix the Gaul/Obelix, etc, I'm claiming the assist!!)
I had my bet on Cork City to win their setanta cup group voided after St.Pats replaced Shels with bet365. Did this happen to anyone else. Im a bit ****ed off about it to be honest.
The 2000/2001 season I think although Longford got their points back in 02/03.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemovie
A proven back up forward? In Derry that means he was ****ing useless!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
u wont forget it!!
For the best odds check www.oddschecker.com .
Drogs best price is 5/1 with expertbet
My odds would be:
Drogs 13/8
Derry 11/4
Cork 3/1
Bohs 5/1
33/1 Bar
Very unlucky. I haven't been voided by Hills anyway. As far as I'm concerned the bet should stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceirtlis
For smaller books (like the LOI one) odds comparison sites aren't always up todate. best to check with the bookies themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
I thought that would happen, but my bet with Paddy Power seems to still stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceirtlis
I think the best one is www.odds-comparison.co.uk. This is 100pc up-to-date in general. The only thing is it doesn't include Boylesports or Cashman's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Thats the one I'd use but like I said for Irish markets its not 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by JW.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JW.
I fail to see how Derry are worse. They are set to sign Dean Delaney who is an ok keeper, Jennings is a good keeper. The rest of the players they offloaded were squad players and they have added Rogers and O'Halleron.
Derry have Molloy, McCourt, Martyn, Brennan, Deery, Higgins, McGlynn in midfield, which is the strongest in the league IMO.
They have added to the defence with two players who won the title last season and have several league medals.
IMO its Derry's title to lose.
so does that mean if shels werent demoted an waterford promoted...then we'd be the biggest outsiders in the league? ie.favourites for relegation? :mad: :eek: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
I think Derry overachieved under Kenny and believe that he is a better manager than Fenlon, who had easily the best squad year-after-year at Shels.
Eh, yeah. I'd still have us as likely to be down there, even if Paiso stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockofGibraltar