A little advice needed regarding the FAI.

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15/02/2007, 6:13 PM
reder

A little advice needed regarding the FAI.

Guys,

(I am unsure as to whether it is a good idea to post links for touting sites as it just aids these filth, so I will refrain from doing so but can provided links etc, if proof is needed etc)

I was browsing a well known auction site a few days ago when I came accross an auction for a pair of lower davin tickets for the Wales game. Anyway, the "Q & A" section of this piece caught my eye originally, as this person said he was a "genuine fan" and "he knows whats it feels like to be left without a ticket for an ireland game". For some reason he also felt that he needed to add a liverpool crest to his advert.

As someone who is a long time supporter of the club and one who has access to tickets for any game home or away game, I immediately sensed an opportunity to catch a tout in the act. I have done this many times before and as always my first intention was to submit his details to the FAI via (info@fai.ie) in the expectation that he would be removed from the block booking list. After some "negotiations" which included me "offering" him tickets for Liverpool away games, I managed to obtain his mobile number, his name and his email address.

I promptly submitted these details to the FAI over 2 days ago in a nicely worded email including a link to the auction in the hope/expectation that they would act on the information and free up 2 tickets which could go to 2 genuine fans.

Two days on, no reply, it is pretty clear these people have no interest in combatting activity of this nature. I however, will always do my bit to help a genuine fellow fan and was wondering were I can take this issue to gain some level of justice?

Note : On previous occasions I received a response from them. They tended to have an excuse for not acting against the tout more often than not. I know they have acted against street touts in the past.
15/02/2007, 6:34 PM
SuperDave

re-send this info to ticket.office@fai.ie

no-one ever responds to stuff sent to info@fai.ie
15/02/2007, 7:13 PM
eirebhoy

tbh I can't believe the bid is �405 with 2 days to go. Does anyone have a CC they won't use on Ebay so they can put in a bid and don't take the tickets off him? :)
16/02/2007, 7:44 AM
Newryrep

Reder

This was touched on on the BB Croker thread. my view was

It would be good PR for the FAI - (Not that they need it:D )

Fans would report touts if they thought something would be done about it
16/02/2007, 12:39 PM
pete

Seen several ads from Touts in the Indo yesterday requesting rugby tickets. If the IRFU don't care I don't see the FAI being any different.
16/02/2007, 12:46 PM
paul_oshea

fair play to ye reder. i must commend you on this, however i agree with superclasydave, they never reply at info...
16/02/2007, 2:26 PM
reder

No reply at ticket.office@fai.ie either.
16/02/2007, 2:35 PM
Bluetonic

Seriously it's email, are you expecting an instant reply.

I suggest you follow it up via a phone call.
16/02/2007, 2:38 PM
WexDec

Also for the week thats in it I'm sure they're snowed under so wouldn't lose faith just yet. Only thing is although you have his name, number and e-mail, which was good sleuthing by the way, that doesn't mean they can directly link it with the eBay sale unless they actually purchase the ticket as mentioned previously. Have to guard against somebody just holding a grudge against someone else. I would guess they would need to match his house address unless he's used the same e-mail in corresponding with them but I don't know if they even capture than on the BB / WL info stored.

Glad to hear they've tackled street touts before as you rarely hear of any FA or club doing anything proactive about this persistent scourge on sport/music fans of all types.
16/02/2007, 3:34 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluetonic

Seriously it's email, are you expecting an instant reply.

I suggest you follow it up via a phone call.

the FAI usually reply to e-mails within a few hours.
18/02/2007, 2:09 PM
dcfc1985

Name and shame him thats what I say! :mad: Genuine supporter my ar*e
18/02/2007, 4:19 PM
eirebhoy

Sold for �405

http://cgi.ebay.ie/2x-tickets-irelan...QQcmdZViewItem
18/02/2007, 4:35 PM
Green Tribe

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Sold for �405

http://cgi.ebay.ie/2x-tickets-irelan...QQcmdZViewItem

:rolleyes: :eek:
That's mad!
19/02/2007, 2:11 AM
Bondvillain

Next time, contact eBay directly.... They dont allow the sale of football tickets in Ireland or the UK....

(from eBay.ie safety centre page):

"eBay is an open marketplace, but we are also bound by UK or Irish law, and eBay's policies. We therefore restrict the sale of certain items on the site. These include, but are not limited to:

Guns & Weapons
Airline Tickets
Alcohol
Animals and wildlife products
Credit Cards
Drugs
Fireworks
Football tickets
Lockpicking devices
Lottery tickets
Items that potentially infringe copyright or trademark"
20/02/2007, 7:40 PM
Cowboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondvillain

Next time, contact eBay directly.... They dont allow the sale of football tickets in Ireland or the UK....
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No need to wait, just click on "report this item" at the bottom of the listing
20/02/2007, 7:45 PM
soccerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondvillain

Next time, contact eBay directly.... They dont allow the sale of football tickets in Ireland or the UK....

As there is no legislation in Ireland, unlike the UK, regarding the re-sale of football tickets that section doesn't apply.
20/02/2007, 8:40 PM
Cowboy

In this case though it is a prohibited item on ebay since its the welsh game. Will certainly bring this guy some unwanted attention from ebay

"In addition, all listings for tickets to association football matches occurring anywhere in the world that are part of a competition or tournament organised by FIFA or UEFA and that an English or Welsh national or club team has participated in, or is eligible to participate in, are also prohibited. "
20/02/2007, 9:02 PM
soccerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy

In this case though it is a prohibited item on ebay since its the welsh game. Will certainly bring this guy some unwanted attention from ebay

"In addition, all listings for tickets to association football matches occurring anywhere in the world that are part of a competition or tournament organised by FIFA or UEFA and that an English or Welsh national or club team has participated in, or is eligible to participate in, are also prohibited. "

Well spotted Cowboy!
09/03/2007, 2:56 PM
andrew1977

There was another set of tickets on e-bay yesterday for the wales game, ebay removed them this morning due to violation of their policy
Biddign was up to 150 sterling for 2 tickets v wales.Was keeping an eye on them myself but got way priced out of it for a match considering i have to bring the child with me
12/03/2007, 3:45 PM
WexDec

My faith is restored seems they're taking them off as soon as they pop up so no time for them to get up to mad prices but plenty of rugby alright. I could see closer to the match ones going up for a short time but having a high reserve / buy it now price with so few going, and the touts getting that price. Enough time for them to sell before being nabbed. If spot one report them immediately as if we'd done so with the original infringer he wouldn't have got his money.

Mad though that it only applies to England and Wales footie matches !
12/03/2007, 6:23 PM
reder

I reported that guy to Ebay as soon as was suggested. Thats why im surprised they have started deleting the ticket sales now. Isn't the minimum auction length not 1 day, surely they can remove the illegal sale within the timeframe.

Also fyi, i never received any reply from the FAI from either address, very disappointing.
12/03/2007, 8:38 PM
citizenerased

yeah the tickets seem to be get taken down very quickly, i reckon someone is doing something
13/03/2007, 11:04 AM
andrew1977

Another 4 tickets listed on ebay again , Item number: 260096389028,starting bid 1400 euro for 4 tickets, absolute disgrace and i cant get 2 anywhere for me and the child

Hope ebay nail this sell also
13/03/2007, 12:04 PM
soccerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew1977

Another 4 tickets listed on ebay again , Item number: 260096389028,starting bid 1400 euro for 4 tickets, absolute disgrace and i cant get 2 anywhere for me and the child

Hope ebay nail this sell also

That listing won't be there long and the guy put his photo on it too!
13/03/2007, 3:58 PM
zenokelly

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew1977

Another 4 tickets listed on ebay again , Item number: 260096389028,starting bid 1400 euro for 4 tickets, absolute disgrace and i cant get 2 anywhere for me and the child

Hope ebay nail this sell also

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Republic-of-Irela...QQcmdZViewItem
13/03/2007, 4:31 PM
reder

I have reported that sale to ebay but i reckon its a p1ss take myself. The advert as a piece seems to be a bit idiotic to me.

Just in case anyone in wonder regarding ebays policy, here it is:

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/f...s.html?fb=true

So football tickets for welsh and english teams are illegal but the rugby tickets that were sold a few weeks ago were actually legal Wow!!
13/03/2007, 6:11 PM
citizenerased

Thought that but you man is from achill island he prob thought they wanted a pic of him when it said upload picture...
13/03/2007, 11:38 PM
reder

Shame on you ebay!!!!!!

Got this response from them but the appropriate action was to move the auction into the rugby union tickets section!!!

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We appreciate your vigilance in helping us to keep inappropriate
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similar nature our way. We ask that you report it to us via the form at
the following page:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/contact...ase/index.html

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your
cooperation.

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Subject: CW=C00361 Football tickets [260096389028 #UK $IE ?01 -01 ]

Listing Policy Breaches > Prohibited (banned) items > Event tickets >
Football tickets

Item Number(s):
260096389028
14/03/2007, 12:07 AM
KoemansCC

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew1977

Another 4 tickets listed on ebay again , Item number: 260096389028,starting bid 1400 euro for 4 tickets, absolute disgrace and i cant get 2 anywhere for me and the child

Hope ebay nail this sell also

That listing is still up on ebay as of now, best of luck to him getting the �9999.00 that I've bid (shows up as �1600 at the moment and didn't use my proper ebay account) ... :o

Tried to bid a million but wouldn't let me...FCUK HIM
14/03/2007, 10:29 AM
paul_oshea

lol koemans i was thinking of doing the same but i couldnt be arsed filling out a new account!!!
14/03/2007, 10:57 AM
eirebhoy

I actually thought that was a real bid. :D Well done Koemans, get his hopes up.
14/03/2007, 11:08 AM
Jerry The Saint

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoemansCC

That listing is still up on ebay as of now, best of luck to him getting the �9999.00 that I've bid (shows up as �1600 at the moment and didn't use my proper ebay account) ... :o

Tried to bid a million but wouldn't let me...FCUK HIM

:D If anyone's around Achill, keep an eye out for a 36-year-old, slightly startled baldy guy.

Quote:

Venue Section: Stand

Informative!
14/03/2007, 5:08 PM
reder

Good luck getting 1600 for your tickets now, you ****! They have taken the auction down. Sent them the other auction numbers for good measure.:D
14/03/2007, 11:09 PM
WexDec

Quote:

Originally Posted by citizenerased

Thought that but you man is from achill island he prob thought they wanted a pic of him when it said upload picture...

Very disrespectful to Achill Islanders ! There's a bad egg in every batch. I can't even laugh at the ad now its taken down. Probably hiding behind his Aran jumper expecting the Gardai to call around to him for a bit of a chat :D

Nice touch boosting the bid up to get his hopes up, probably had half it spent down in the local. Maybe a good tactic but stop at say a grand a ticket to make it realistic-ish and string him out on the payment for a few days say till ermmmm Saturday week ! He'll be rowing his boat fairly lively then.
15/03/2007, 10:34 AM
reder

I would love to string one of them along but ebay are right on the case of deleting these auctions now. I reported 3 yday and they had they down in a few hours. It only takes a minute to report them.
15/03/2007, 1:45 PM
WexDec

Just goes to show regarding general discussions about Ireland, club or even rugby or gig tickets that people will supply anti-tout info if there's an expectation that something will come of it.
16/03/2007, 12:36 PM
SuperDave

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoemansCC

That listing is still up on ebay as of now, best of luck to him getting the �9999.00 that I've bid (shows up as �1600 at the moment and didn't use my proper ebay account) ... :o

Tried to bid a million but wouldn't let me...FCUK HIM

set up two fake accounts and counter bid to a huge price. then pm him and tell him he's a w@nker.
17/03/2007, 11:31 AM
reder

How do you get by the 'Confirm Identity' piece. I presume you dont give your correct credit card details or phone number.
17/03/2007, 12:26 PM
zenokelly

I decided to buy the 2 Slovakia tickets, because it wasn't an auction, using a bogey account. Feel harsh because he was onl selling each for a fiver over face value, e150 for the 2.
18/03/2007, 9:54 AM
andrew1977

there is other ireland v slovakia tickets on e-bay now, wales tickets appear to have stopped completely on ebay.

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