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We have 438, how many are needed to get rid of Staunton do you think?
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We have 438, how many are needed to get rid of Staunton do you think?
good start...dont think it has anything to do with numbers but worth a go...
It's only a drop in the ocean when you consider how the FAI will spin 80,000 at the Wales game
If I do make it across the water, I'll bring a copy of it and get people to sign there, does that sound good?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Sounds like a planQuote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
Stan is in for the Wales game, end of story. This can only act as a negative for team moral ahead of the game so please leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
Just 1. John Delaneys.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
So, who are you?Delaney, Robson, Gavin or Micko?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
And they will find out about it if I just get it signed at the gate to get in to Croke before the match?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Nah just one of the few remaining grounded Ireland fans who hasn't been swept up in the fervour which the media wish to create.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
I suggest you put your efforts into backing the team for the Wales and Slovakia games or if not, don't show up at all.
Or Cathal Dervan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
Delaney so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Yeah, if I'm not a fan of baying for the blood of most capped player I must be FAI.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
I didnt realise it had become so inappropriate to want to get behind your team in times of predicament. My mistake, I apologise and sorry for wasting your valuable time. I wont keep you from your daily Sun any longer.
I don't read the Daily Sun, I read the Guardian.Not that that makes a bleeding bit of difference.
Beavis that shi*e you're shovelling would be understandable if we had a one off poor result or even if we had a couple of bad results but surely after experiencing 3 of our poorest performances in the post war period in the past 5 games we are entitled to a moan. To equate us to the English is nonsense. If we had their mentality then Staunton would have gone after the Dutch defeat and would now be a distant memory.
Here lads tell you what let's all just keep smiling like idiots then and be happy when Wales and Slovakia trounce us.
Beavis you are the type of person who allowed Hitler to exterminate a large percentage of the population of Eastern Europe because you didn't want to create a racket and upset the German troops. And no I don't think I'm going too far with this analogy.
Yes you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
That's quite a distinguished list of signatories that feature on the petition.
Hitler, Sven Goran Erikson, Ryan Giggs, Brian Kerr, Jack Charlton, Roy Keane and even Steve Staunton himself appears a couple of times.
Hitler, being a Germany fan, is really going the extra mile for us.
all credit TO over-reactions.
in fairness you are going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too far comparing him to a Nazi sympotiser!Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
beavis may be blinkered in the extreme but thats about it. i personally thought after the cyprus game to give him a bit more time. we saw marginal improvement against the Czechs and should of won so fire was held. but the debacle in san marino is inexcuseable espically when it comes so close on the heels of cyprus and holland hammering.
added to our falling seeding and MOST importantly the real sense that Stan hasn't got a clue what he is doing. fair enough he is our most capped player but that doesn't make him a good 'gaffer'. he has one component in that he has loads of experience of international level football but he appears to have nothing else; tactical nous, ability to express his ideas to the players (he can't even make sense in an interview so i doubt he is much better in the dressing room), ability to motivate his charges. name the managers who are recognised as the best of recent times and a lot of them had fairly insignificant playing carreers in comparison: alex ferguson, bill shankley, jock stein, arsene wegner, jose mourino ... so it is only one spoke in the wheel to have a distinguished career in your playing days.
this crap about building for the future is all well and good but the only signs from this team is of terminal decline and not improvement. therefore thanks for the playing career and memories stan but now is the time to make the correct decision for the country and step aside and let someone who knows what their doing take the job.
actually beavis what will it take for you to think that maybe 'da gaffer' should go??
Beavis, I'm a UCD fan so I don't think I can be accused of glory-hunting or bandwaggon-jumping. I'm happy to cheer on UCD when we're loosing and I'll give the odd player a bolliking if I think he deserves it. The difference is that when I see UCD get hammerred I'm still watching players who do their best and take pride in their efforts. That's not what we saw in San Marino last week. The players, management and administration are due criticism and they should be man enough to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
I was only having a buzz. Is this site full of Irish Americans who don't get Irony?
The media? are you for real???????Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
have you seen the results?
its people like you who will be the death of Irish football. you think you are being loyal to the team and a proper supporter. you are actually propping up a useless management team and pushing us further into decline. there was a great comparison in one of the papers the weekend between the way the football team is now and the way the rugby team was in the 90s. we stumble aimlessly from one game to the next getting the odd big performance that convinces the powers that be that we have turned the corner. we havent. the supporters need to make stauntons position untenable. he is way out of his depth.
Blinkered in the extreme? blind loyalty? the death of football? :rolleyes:
Cop yoursleves on for f*ck sake. God forbid I think its unreasonable that a manager could be sacked after 4 competetive games. It would happen at no level, club or international. I made no assessment about the long term future, I agree Stan is probably not equipped for the job, I merely stated that removing the manager now would have no benefit before the upcoming games.
As regards media, I am referring to the shift in the nature of the criticism in recent years (post-WC 2002 being the watershed but more severe in recent times IMO). A witch-hunt mentality now prevails. The media attack the person rather than their ability as manager/player and this attitude has transferred to the terraces. After the game last Wednesday, Damien Duff, one of our greatest players of all time, and a player who has never missed a game when available, was walking off the pitch when he was subject to a seething 'fan' cursing and screaming at him about how much of a f*ckin b*llox he was. By no means do I expect people to revere the manager and the players, I certainly don't, but what I witnessed in San Marino was unacceptable and IMO mainly as a result of tabloid goading. All I'm asking for is some perspective. As Paul McShane put it in the post-game interview, 'Nobody died'.
I'm sure I'll be hammered for agreeing with you but thank you for finally bringing a bit of sence to the proceedings. :ball:
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Originally Posted by Beavis
did you jump and clap when ireland scored that injury time goal?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
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Originally Posted by Beavis
duff is a ****, he can go **** himself
i support the team, by paying for the expensive tickets, and travelling all over the world to see them, if they think its no big deal to only beat parttimers 2-1, then im sorry but thats horse****
If you agree he is not equipped for the job why do you want him in the job?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
There is a good chance slovakia could inflict a hiding on us in croker as they did to the welsh if we keep goin the way we are going. Someone needs to be brought in who knows what he is doing.
As for your self and Karlos' comments on the media. There has been plenty of reasoned and intelligent analysis of stauntons reign. ignoring this and taking the worst examples from the tabloids and then blaming "the meedia" for a witchhunt is just a case of shooting the messenger. the media didnt go out and get hammered by cyprus and holland and then scrape a win against a bunch of partimers.
Hey what about us without much Irish ancestry (1/16th I believe) who dont get irony either?Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Erm, I think you'll find most of the "fervour" has been "swept up" from ordinary fans who are looking at the manager and shaking their heads at his obvious incompetence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
In fact, talking about the media, when is a journalist going to be brave enough to stand up and ask him to do the decent thing and resign? Compared to the fans, you could say they've been restrained.
This is the only point of yours I'll agree on, the rest is just sh*te, Staunton has to go because its plainly obvious he doesn't have a clue...end of....Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Of course I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
You are a joke, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I think that he probably isnt the man for it but I believe he deserves a fair chance to prove us wrong. 4 competetive games does not constitute a fair chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
I believe keeping the current set-up in place for the 2 March qualifiers will have more of positive effect that replacing it. This was the case for the Czech game, which we played well in and should have won, and I think we will get the desired response again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Yes it is totally acceptable for us to be discontented. The manner in which we now express that discontent is not. 'The worst examples from the tabloids' are what stretch the bounds of what is acceptable, bring personal assailment into the norm, and in some way manipulate the reaction of people like my friend in San Marino, changing the post-game reaction from 'that was b*llox' to 'you're a b*llox'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
5 comp games: Lose to a Cyprus, let in 5 goals to CyprusQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
nearly draw with the worst team in europe
lost to germany (i would have went with a 4-5-1), who could have hammered us if they had put the gas on
draw with czech team, concede a shi t goal, missed a good chance to get 3 points
oh yeah sorry we beat san marino 5- 0
bet you jumped around like a maniac after this result
Stan is a ******
Why does he deserve a fair chance? there has not been any evidance to suggest he can turn it aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
but is that any basis for to go about our business? will we always need a bad result to get a decent performance out of his teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Yeah you are right but its a total red herring. should we all behave like decent human beings? of course. Does the manager need to go before we put in any more of the worst Irish performances in living memory? of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis