Henderson
Finnan O'Shea Dunne Harte
Kilbane Ireland Carsley Duff
Keane Long
Why oh Why Ian Harte!?!?!
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Henderson
Finnan O'Shea Dunne Harte
Kilbane Ireland Carsley Duff
Keane Long
Why oh Why Ian Harte!?!?!
O'Shea :rolleyes:
I presume Duff will play on the right. Normally a defender of Kilbane but think shoudl have more attacking player as its only San Marino & pace more important than strength.
Long is the correct choice as proven at much higher level that Stokes.
He's a better option at left back than O'Shea surely. Kilbane and Harte on the left is poor though. O'Shea must be the best trainer in the world...
I would have gone more attacking then Kilbane as well. Pity Elliot and McGeady are out.
Stokes would have more experience than Long at this early stage though? Hopefully he'll get on at some stage though. Great opportunity for Long to get his first Ireland goal though...
So we're dropping McShane - who was superb against the Czechs - for O'Shea, who was rubbish again and cost us their goal?
Makes sense.
I wasn't too fussed who started between Long and Stokes.
Few months of SPL v few games in Championship & Premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinoAsprilla
Stokes has a proven track record of scoring against poor teams though. ;)
FFS O'Shea and Kilbane AGAIN.
The McShane omission is a little worrying. He still needs experience. No better game than this to get it in! I'd love to know Staunton's thinking behind this as it's unlikely McShane will be involved. Harte might be a decent bet for a goal!
Why oh why Kilbane and O'Shea!!! I think harte is a good choice at LB, he's back playing top flight football so worth a shot.
But Kilbane on the right - why?!?!?!
The fact McShane hasnt been starting regularly for West Brom gives Stan the exuse to call up O'Shea. Worryign thing is that he's unlikely to be shown up against SM and may be in line to start v Wales.
Kilbane is a bit of a crap choice though I guess with A Reid and McGeady out the other options were Hunt and S Quinn.
While I'm not happy Kilbane is playing and absolutely disgusted O'Shea starts ahead of McShane, I'm not surprised by it. I've kept saying all along that we have a small team and that one or both of these two lads would be accomodated because of their height. I'd say he's picked both of them and Harte on the basis that we'll get plenty of set pieces and they would be useful on that basis.
Doesn't make selecting both of them the right thing to do though.
Because Harte is good at set pieces and wont have much/any defendingQuote:
Originally Posted by AustinoAsprilla
to do.
I've decided I'm really p*ssed off about this. Picking O'Shea instead of McShane is saying to the whole squad "It doesnt matter if you play well, I'm going to pick on reputation only."
Picking Kilbane instead of S Quinn and Hunt is just stupid. You should give players their debut when they are playing well. Here's a chance for one of the 2 (who are playing the best football of their career) to come in and give us an option. Instead we have Kilbane playing whcih adds nothing to our knwoledge.
I know :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
That makes it look more and more likely that he plans on giving these two a starting role for the games in March :(
However, Andy Reid, McGeady and Elliott might be back so they would also be candidates for RMF or Kilbane or O'Shea might get injured. So we have some hope yet :p
I know its not much of a challenge but it's a competitive game and we can only use three subs. So I guess, barring injury, he plans on sticking with the same back 4 for the full 90 and maybe bringing on Stokes and two midfielders, probably Hunt for Kilbane and S. Quinn for Ireland.
This is the kind of game McShane needs to be playing before the more difficult ones next month. He had a very decent first cap but he needs more experience.
I have nothing against Hart at LB, espcially in this game. Did he play against Real over the weekend? There is no stand-out player for this position and at least he's good at set-pieces.
Again the choice between Long or Stokes is a close one so no complaints there either, so long as Stokes get a good 20 mins at the end. Also Long is starting and scoring for his club at the moment, Stokes isn't.
Again my biggest disappointment is O'Shea at CB. Making it look like Dunne and O'Shea are his no. 1 CB partnership! Maybe I'm wrong and McShane will get some playing tomorrow time but i doubth it.
source?
It would be good to see Long and Stokes finish the game. Maybe give Keane a rest, because he'll be tired from waving his hands in the air all the time. Giving out about how the mighty San Marino defenders are outfoxing him. I think it might sober him up to take him off 25 mins from time for Stokes and let him know the time isn't built around him. Will be interesting to see Stephen Ireland and what he can produce. Has been playing well of late.
Disappointing that McShane is dropped for O'Shea. An ideal match for McShane to get further imbedded into the team.
Thought Hunt might have been given a shout ahead of ruddy Kilbane.
Some of these selections are probably explained by "these are the lads with the experience". Problem is, a lot of the experieced ones are not doing the business.
Achy Breaky Harte - gets in as there's not many alternatives at left full at the minute. Possibly could have tried Kilbane there.
McShane could be carrying an injury? I doubt it but its possible! I felt we were pretty lethargic in the last game and only seemed to push on when the ginger one took matters into his own hands and won us the penalty.
If he's been dropped I feel sorry for the lad. Kinda ironic that he left United in order to get first team football and has been dropped for a player content to sit on his arsa at OT and play in meaningless games or as substitute when games are already won.
Certianly not the rte website which almost an hour later doesnt have the team. It does have bang up to date news on Liverpool's takeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by soccerc
I know this is a bit off topic but rte.ie is sh*t. What's the point in them concentrating on English sporting news. Anyone who wants this goes to bbc or one of the many excellent UK sports sites. The only way anyone uses rte.ie is for Irish news.
I'm having an angry day:mad:
mcshane has a bit of a knock and is on a yellow. two important games coming up at homeQuote:
Originally Posted by elroy
an away game against anyone needs experienced players and with ireland in ctre mid already playing hunt would make our midfield a little inexperienced
McShane hasn't played much for West Brom and as jbyrne just pointed out he's on a yellow.
I would have given Hunt a chance too but we all know what happened in Cyprus when a few inexperienced players go a chance.I'd say Stan is playing it safe and sticking with what he knows.Looking forward to seeing Ireland, he's put in some great performances for Man City recently.
Get on Harte at 2/1 to score at anytime.San Marino always swell the defence and give away frees and Hartey is lethal from 25 yards!
im delighted to see harte back at left back.. id prefer to see hunt start over kilbane but wouldnt complain too much bout it. i also agree with stan with o'shea and dunne no1 centre backs. only my own opinion tho.really looking forward to watch stephen ireland play hope he carries on his good form.
He's lethal for the 25 yards of space he concedes to the opposition at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by DotTV
Definitey Hunt should be starting based on his recent performances
I see John O Shea is starting... After all, he plays for Man United, he MUST be good :rolleyes:
He has started all but one of the last 13.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Only reason to drop McShane would be injury but then why in the squad...
O'Shea has played very little this season & very few minutes at centre back.
His league games this year he has played 11, 90, 0, 11 and 0 minutes.
:confused:
But Stan may be as badly informed as meQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Ian Harte wasn't even playing at the weekend when his team won away to Real Madrid. He's just coming back from a serious injury and has only played two games this term. Surely something is wrong with Steve Staunton
who are the subs then lads, ie the lads left in the squad that aren't starting!!
McShane and Dunne were reported to be carrying injuries. So maybe didn't want to risk both. Kilbane surely only picked for strenght and height. A bit tough on S Quinn and Hunt but I can see the logic. His back tracking will give Harte cover too. Although he shouldn't need it, we hope... and pray...
Squad confirmed here
No subs yet
from fai.ie:
With McShane injured, O'Shea is the replacement. No point in arguing about McCarthy, he's picked up a knock at Leicester and will be out for at least 2 weeksQuote:
A surprise was the omission of centre-back Paul McShane after his two exciting performances in his first internationals against the Czech Republic and San Marino in Dublin. McShane is, however, on a yellow card and a second yellow in this match would automatically rule him out of next month's match at Croke Park against Wales. He is also carrying an injury, for he received a gash on his calf muscle in training and manager Staunton obviously did not want to risk losing him for Ireland's first match in Croke Park.
I'm actually ok with the starting XI, harte won't be tested much and can still deliver a decent free and cross from deep.
I'd still rather have Hunt in before Kilbane, but that's the only selection I have a problem with
Colgan, Randolph, McShane, Foley, Gibson, A.Quinn, S.Quinn, Hunt, O’Brien, Stokes, Keogh.Quote:
Originally Posted by inexile
Bolded out the ones I guess will be on the bench.
if mcShane is injured then i suppose that JoS is the only option but i can't remember when his last good game for ireland was! goes back to the point of him only selecting 3 centre halfs in the first place. :rolleyes:
no problem with harte starting, esp. given the opposition. actually wanted to see him against madrid the last day but turned over when he wasn't playing (did he come on as a sub?).
someone said earlier that JoS must be a good trainer but nobody on earth can be as good as messer Kilbane. what is this his 70th successive start for us??? i am not one bit surprised but i am not happy - can we not even try out players who are on form when we are playing offically the worst team that we can possibly play against in a competitive international!! :mad:
The problem is that these 2 seem immune to injury, they are like the Duracell bunny they just keep plodding along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
He wasn't even on the bench! Two appearances this season! Though he has been out for a while. He had a trapped nerve in his leg and even the surgeon operating said it was only 50/50 he would have sensation in his feet again. Made it back though.Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
Ha ha ha!!!!:D :D :D Fantastic!Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan