if ever there was an example of how to manage money and build up a club here it is
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if ever there was an example of how to manage money and build up a club here it is
What is your point though?
They NEVER EVER spent outside their means,
and now they have grown from a Dr.Martens League team with a rickety old stadium, to a club who have reached the promised land (3rd round). They have a brand new stadium and are talkin about building a hotel. also are now in contention for promotion to league 2..
I've been saying it for years - eL sides spend too much on wages, until this close season not been foreign clubs queuing up for them.
Same with UCD, and a few other teams I'm sure. Not a hard concept to grasp.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
No chance of promotion - Oxford and Dagenham will go up this season - even if one of those don't then York would be the third.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
And Burton were absolutely played off the park by Worcester in the FA Trophy a couple of weeks ago - one of the worst teams I've seen this season down at St George's Lane - and I include Hemel Hempsted, Basingstoke and Lancaster City in that
Yes, but it is hard for other clubs to match UCD's other 'incentives' to players. What other club could attract players by offering scholarships to third level? Wages is just part of it - having UCD's funding for sports clubs - through scholarships particularly is a great leverage for the club.:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
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Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Only 3 scholarships last year but Waterford united have system in place with W.I.T.
Do you know how much funding we get through the college?Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Do you know how much the club pays for the scholarships?
Context, man, and facts!
another weekend win.. 5th in the league, not in 4th only because of 1 goal..Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
league table dosent lie..
now well in contention in the playoffs..:ball:
Is there no university in Limerick, or Cork, or Galway, or Derry?Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
A good few Derry players are at university here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
City have several players on Sports Course at college down the road from Turners Cross. Its not a University but Liam Murphy runs the course but its third level - not sure what you call it then...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Cork IT is it? That's my point, most clubs have the option of doing something similar to UCD.
Colaiste Stiofain Naofa (no fadas on my keyboard before anyone complains).Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
AltGr and then the letter - áéíóúQuote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
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Some great footballers there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
They're going to Stefain Naofa and play for Cork? Jesus they must really have ****ed off Buddha in their last lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
Even if they did go up by some fluke - they wouldn't be able to sustain Full-Time Football on Football League budgets and costings - Tamworth tried it to some extent in the Conference - now in major trouble, Telford tried it to get themselves up to standard to push for promotion to the Football League - they went bust and had to reform as a new club in the Unibond.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Scarborough are another team that have problems thanks to the cost of trying to sustain League Football a few years back...
Even Hereford have stuggled a bit this season with the progression to League 2...
True True.. but you never know.. The Playoffs always are interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
But all of those clubs didnt play in a major money spinning 3rd round draw did they?
Ourselves and UCD are two prime examples of clubs living within their means and making a right go of it.
A salary cap should be introduced like they have in American sports. Each club would only be allowed to spend so much on wages per year and if they brerak it they get fined.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Have you seen Bray's retained losses in their accounts?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Em no, how bad are they??Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
How can you assert that Bray live within their means if you haven't seen their accounts?
We're still in business.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
As of now, so are Shelbourne.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
As are everyone in the league. So why single out UCD and Bray?
As is everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Making a loss and living within your means are not mutually exclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
three students on this page I thought you told your parents that you needed them laptops for study.
Never said they weren't. However, why single those two clubs out? That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
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Originally Posted by passerrby
Hilarious. Never heard that one before...
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that Bray and UCD get far fewer people at their matches then the likes of Shels, Bohs, Derry, Cork, etc. My point is it must therefore be harder to achieve success with limited finances available, that's why the teams with smaller attendances (therefore smaller income) should be credited for doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yeah but those clubs that do spend more , are more successful than either Bray or UCD.
I know. But if their income is similar to Bray or UCD's, they are taking a gamble. If it pays off well done but if it doesn't you get something like the Shels crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Don't think Bray have been achieving success of late!Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Bray's retained losses are approaching the million mark at this stage. If we define "living within your means" as break even and not living off share capital from directors, then Bray aren't living within their means.
Nothing against Bray, but just wanted to set the record straight.