Due Process...my arse

Those glorious defenders of the wellbeing of the youth of Tallaght, Thomas Davis... today launched a sneak attack down in the Four Courts. Briefly they filed a petition to try and convince the court that the setting of a date for their Judicial Review of Tallaght should be postponed untill a different appeal concerning another case that is due to be heard by the Supreme Court sometime in 2007 takes place.

Thomas Davis hoped that by doing this they would be able to delay the hearing of their own Judicial Review 'till sometime in 2008. If that had happened and even if the South Dublin Count Council were to be sucessful, Tallaght wouldn't be available to Rovers untill sometime at earliest in 2009.

The good news is that Thomas Davis had thier application declined today...

This is just another example of the GAA via Thomas Davis engaging in a sickening act of attempting to destroy Rovers whilst hiding behind a self righteous spin that under due process they have a democratic right to behave in this manner....

****ing *******s!

who sponsors thomas davis they need to be told about the bad publicity

lets hit them GAA ****ers were it hurts

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Originally Posted by dublin15bohs

who sponsors thomas davis they need to be told about the bad publicity

lets hit them GAA ****ers were it hurts

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Absolutely way to go

Anybody know who sponsors them? They need a letter writing and phone call campaign

Des kelly carpets.

Excellent... I'll ring Des Kelly and tell them I'm cancelling my order as they are associated with a bunch of fascists.

(Obviously I don't actually have an order with them, but that's beside the point!)

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Originally Posted by londonhoop

Des kelly carpets.

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How apt.

They clearly know they are beat and are trying to force a delay hoping Rovers will go to the wall in the interrim.

Typical underhanded bogball protectionism on full display.

Great article in today's Indo about attempts of certain county boards to hush up the media about some of the violent club incidents recently.

I just wish the GAA in general would be subject to the same critical scrutiny the EL is.

Is this correct or is it a wind up? Des Kelly sponsor Bohs.

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Originally Posted by londonhoop

Des kelly carpets.

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LOL :D

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

How apt.

They clearly know they are beat and are trying to force a delay hoping Rovers will go to the wall in the interrim.

Typical underhanded bogball protectionism on full display.

Great article in today's Indo about attempts of certain county boards to hush up the media about some of the violent club incidents recently.

I just wish the GAA in general would be subject to the same critical scrutiny the EL is.

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Your post touches on a very real point - the soccer journalists that cover the EL for the Times and the Indo tend to overstate the case for the negative within our game (often in a falsely exaggerated way) - whilst Sean Moran for example in the Times will do anything possible to avoid direct exposure of anything that paints the GAA in too bad a light. This is of critical importance when it comes to drumming up corporate sponsorship.

This season was easily the best on record (Derry's Uefa scalps, fantastic setanta cup and league finals, nail biting title race, corks CL run, Drogs heroics in UEFA, utterly thrilling FAI cup Final)

yet the summary pieces of Malone and the Indo concentrated on the administrative angle (which turned out to be a ball of smoke - as anyone remotely familiar with fai/el arbitration process was only too well aware from the outset).

Would Sean Morans review of the GAA year be so heavily slanted on meaningless angles which ultimately did not lead to a "league of farce" as predicted by the sensationalists?

this nails the argument that its about sport or children having a outlet, its about power control and keeping soccer out of south dublin, shame on you GAA

Agree totally WWS.

The reason for most journalists taking the easy route of a praise-only approach is that in essence the GAA hasn't changed that much since the 60's when they blackballed critical journos and refused them entry to games.

Whilst the GAA-church axis control of the state isn't what it was 30 or 40 years ago, the tentacles of the GAA still reach all the way around the country (both in rural and urban areas) and the organisation and its members can make it a lonely place for a journalist who is deemed to be critical of the organisation. This is reinforced by the GAA's inbuilt defensive mentality as the guardian of all things Irish which means that despite its assertions to the contrary, under the surface it remains inherently xenophobic, particularly against all things British ( ie towards soccer and to a lesser extent rugby).

Ergo if you are deemed to be overly critical to the GAA you can suddenly be seen as almost a traitor and anti-Irish in your views.

Its ironic that its almost de rigeur to criticise the church in modern Ireland (a bandwagon I'm happy to jump on personally) but attempts to criticise the other bastion of Irishness (the GAA) sees you liable to being viewed as committing treason against a protected institution that we somehow should all be thankfully to and say a prayer every night for protecting our nationality.

go to any GAA match up or down the country and tell me that thugishness and bullying is not approved of, not only it is approved of its taught in most clubs

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Originally Posted by wws

yet the summary pieces of Malone and the Indo concentrated on the administrative angle (which turned out to be a ball of smoke - as anyone remotely familiar with fai/el arbitration process was only too well aware from the outset).

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Can't blame them for that - the FAI and (almost all) the clubs decided that administrative bullsh!t was more important than on-pitch activities this season.

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Originally Posted by londonhoop

Des kelly carpets.

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quite similar to our own sponsor, Des Kelly Interiors.

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

quite similar to our own sponsor, Des Kelly Interiors.

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Owned by Des Kelly, the Interior man:confused:

this whole thing really shows up what the gaah are all about, WHY ARENT THE NEWSPAPERS COVERING THIS?????

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Originally Posted by Buller

this whole thing really shows up what the gaah are all about, WHY ARENT THE NEWSPAPERS COVERING THIS?????

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They're probably covering this: http://bohsnews.crispynews.com/artic...um_in_Monaghan

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Originally Posted by Buller

this whole thing really shows up what the gaah are all about, WHY ARENT THE NEWSPAPERS COVERING THIS?????

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The Journo's don't want to miss out on a free meal ticket to croker.

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

They're probably covering this: http://bohsnews.crispynews.com/artic...um_in_Monaghan

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Good news for Monaghan United then as surely the GAA will be consistent and insist on making the stadium available for all sports. :mad:

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Originally Posted by gspain

Good news for Monaghan United then as surely the GAA will be consistent and insist on making the stadium available for all sports. :mad:

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monaghan utd should bring them to court.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Calcio Jack

This is just another example of the GAA via Thomas Davis engaging in a sickening act of attempting to destroy Rovers whilst hiding behind a self righteous spin that under due process they have a democratic right to behave in this manner....

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I recall that Rovers lined up a friendly against the Dubs in the 90's at The RDS but the GAA blocked it for reasons unknown. It was like a flashback to the 1950's.

Anyone remember what happened?

Surely to christ lads is there anything that we as league of ireland supporters can do to stop this blatant act of pure bigotry,bear in mind the FAI wont open their mouths with this going on cos they dont want to rock the boat with choker being opened up to international matches.
But when did we ever give 2 flying f**ks about the FAI, i say we get a petition going and hand it into some journo who will publish this and not be censored, its disgusting to see this happening, maybe also hand in the petition into the minister of sport showing supporters all across the country are disgusted with the actions of a certain club and sporting organisation which no doubt are backing them to the hilt.
I hope i see the day that the GAA and all the bigots in it die roaring !!

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Originally Posted by Paddyfield

I recall that Rovers lined up a friendly against the Dubs in the 90's at The RDS but the GAA blocked it for reasons unknown. It was like a flashback to the 1950's.

Anyone remember what happened?

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Connected to this - ask any Omagh Town fans about the GAA's role in the moving of a friendly fundraiser for the bomb victims

ah - here it is - read and be amazed by the sheer selfishness and bigotry of the GAA:

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Anger at GAA ban on soccer game in Omagh

by Gerry McLoughlin

The GAA have banned the use of the town's Healy Park for a charity soccer match in aid of the Omagh bomb appeal.

The game between Omagh Town Soccer Club and Manchester United, Liverpool, Celtic or Rangers was due to take place in the New Year.

Omagh Town Soccer Club has already written to the GAA — asking for permission to use Healy Park to accommodate the expected 22,000 attendance and maximise the fundraiser.

But Croke Park have ruled out the use of the park because the association would need to change its rules to allow the soccer match to go ahead.

And Croke Park claimed that a special congress to review the All-Ireland hurling championship, next month, could not discuss such a rule.

The Croke Park decision has provoked fury among GAA followers in Omagh.

And the Omagh St Enda's Club are considering defying the Croke Park edict. Many members were particularly angry at the decision, because many of those killed and injured had strong links with the GAA.

Among those killed were Mena Skelton, wife of well-known Tyrone referee Kevin Skelton, and Joleene Marlow, who played with her local club.
St Enda's Club chairman Brendan McAleer said that GAA followers felt strongly that the soccer match should go ahead.

"We believe every rule can be bent. As a committee, we are committed to facilitate anything that will raise funds."

The Omagh GAA official was in no doubt about the consequences of his club defying the GAA hierarchy. And he added that St Enda's Management Committee will have to make members aware of the implications of opposing the Croke Park decision.

"Members are going to take the decision which puts them outside the association they are members of. "The ideal solution would be to obtain the support of enough clubs in Ireland to prompt a change in the rules to facilitate the game," he said.

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In the end - they played the games at St Julian's Road - Omagh Town FC's ground in front of crowds of 5,000

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Originally Posted by Réiteoir

ah - here it is - read and be amazed by the sheer selfishness and bigotry of the GAA:



In the end - they played the games at St Julian's Road - Omagh Town FC's ground in front of crowds of 5,000

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Where they lost money, did they not? Installing seating etc.


Why didn't they just play it at the GAA stadium anyway?
What would GAA association staff of done? Blocked people from entering the stadium?
If the Omagh GAA officials wanted to, they could have let the game go ahead in Healy Park.

Doesn't excuse the selfishness and bigotry of the GAA though!:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Buller

monaghan utd should bring them to court....

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Also Kildare County should launch a bid to have a say in the new ground in Newbridge. Fook fannying around the bigots because of the national team (hardly like they're doing the FAI favour given the rental costs), time for the FAI to start delaying every GAA ground development in the country.

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Originally Posted by Macy

time for the FAI to start delaying every GAA ground development in the country.

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Don't think their is any point waiting for the FAI to do anything:rolleyes: but I am also behind Rovers on this, I would be from a strong GAA area and I can't believe what Thomas Davis are doing but I can tell you one thing they have blackend the name of their club forever get into the this century you idiots!

All this anti-GAA bigotry is sickening. When will the mods ever clamp down on this. Scumrocks have no intrinsic right to be sole tenant of a municipal stadium and Thomas Davis are entitled to due process in the law.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

All this anti-GAA bigotry is sickening. When will the mods ever clamp down on this.

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Until the site is renamed footandhandpass.ie hopefully never.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

All this anti-GAA bigotry is sickening. When will the mods ever clamp down on this. Scumrocks have no intrinsic right to be sole tenant of a municipal stadium and Thomas Davis are entitled to due process in the law.

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Look up the word Municipal in the dictionary, Good man

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Originally Posted by hoops1

Look up the word Municipal in the dictionary, Good man

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Definitions of Municipal on the Web:
Solid Waste: More commonly known as trash or garbage, it consists of everyday items such as product packaging, grass clippings, furniture, clothing, bottles, food scraps, newspapers, appliances, paint, and batteries.
learn.islandwood.org/wade/glossary.htm

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I think theres been a lot of municipal spoken by the gah on this one...

I cant believe that omagh town thing!! I seriously dont know if I can ever go to a gaa match again. Thats unbelievable and truly shocking.

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Originally Posted by ciaraa

I cant believe that omagh town thing!! I seriously dont know if I can ever go to a gaa match again. Thats unbelievable and truly shocking.

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We all know that keeping the invaders game out of the bogball parks is alot more important than supporting the families of innocent men, women and children who were cold bloodedly murdered by the RIRA.

Seriously though, my family are all from Omagh and we were very lucky to escape with no injuries on the day the bomb went off. Most of my little cousins were massive GAA fans, but after this whole debacle, just aren't interested anymore. But if the GAA want to keep shooting themselves in the foot, let them.

The GAA lost yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

All this anti-GAA bigotry is sickening. When will the mods ever clamp down on this. Scumrocks have no intrinsic right to be sole tenant of a municipal stadium and Thomas Davis are entitled to due process in the law.

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Not much cogitating there VM. Surely the posts to which you refer are a response to bigotry.
This is a blatant attempt by the best-funded sport in the country, with the most lavish facilities, to snuff out any hope for football in south Dublin. Sheer, dog-in-the-manger spite, in the same league as the Omagh outrage already referred to.
If Davis win this, then Monaghan should indeed go after Clones.

The GAA and rugby will be able to use Tallaght if Thomas Bigots lose their appeal. They just won't be able to DELAY the project indefinitely.

I believe ladies gaa and other forms can be played on a football pitch. rugby can also be accomodated.

Croek Park got over €140 million of public money so lets not go down that rathole again.

This thread is dovetailing into a discussion of two seperate issues.

On the subject of the municipal (thanks NY Hoop) stadium in Tallaght

Shamrocks had their bite at the cherry.
They used to own the land (which they got for free) but they tried to sell it to fund the football side of things. It was taken back under the control of the local government who are now funding it's construction.

Therefore Thomas Davis are fully entitled to claim they should be allowed to play there. They are a local sporting body just like Shamrocks, in fact even more so because at least they actually play their games in the area.

If you are bigotted against the GAA I can see how this would be very upsetting to you. But any legal and moral right Shamrocks have to sole use of that stadium was pished away with their disgraceful land deal shenanigans.

This isn't an attack on football as people are trying to portray with the spurious "link" to the Omah charity match incident, it's a local squabble over use of public facilities. I wish Shamrocks well in recovering from the mess they made for themselves but I am not feeling any outrage at Thomas Davis legitimately pushing their own interests.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

This thread is dovetailing into a discussion of two seperate issues. On the subject of the municipal (thanks NY Hoop) stadium in Tallaght Shamrocks had their bite at the cherry

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Thomas Davis NEVER had ANY need for the Tallaght Stadium. With the Rathcoole and Newbridge GAA stadiums now being planned - they have even less need.

If TD are allowed needlessly elbow their way into a stadium they don't need - then why not the local volleyball and lawn bowling teams aswell??? Let's just hold up the whole project forever, while every crackpot and crank in South Dublin gets involved.

Thanks for reminding us of our old board. We managed to get rid of those useless *****s who were killing our club - we have the club now, but we didn't inherit the stupidity and incompetence.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

This isn't an attack on football

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So long as you say so! :D