Any update on the meeting between the FAI and Danny Drew?
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Any update on the meeting between the FAI and Danny Drew?
The meeting was to do with our licence nothing more.
So, any update on the meeting between the FAI and Danny Drew?
Well in the context of things it was a pretty important topic of discussion so can you furnish us with any more additional information aside from the fact it was about the licence.Quote:
gael353
The meeting was to do with our licence nothing more
I don't know the ins and outs of any meeting but it would be just as handy for next season if the FAI held the lease tbh.
I mean surely they can't refuse a license to their own ground...................
My support for the FAI getting the lease has nothing to do with them granting a license or not. I would prefer the lease to be vested in an organisation like the FAi rather than an individual or a limited company. The latter opens up the possibility that in a few years time that individual gets the hump and decides to hold us to ransom once again - just like Joe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
The FAI may be incompetent in large measure, however they would not shaft a club. :ball:
What about Shamrock Rovers :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Are you talkign about Miltown? I don't think the FAI shafted Rovers. Kilcoyne shafted Rovers and the FAI was negligent and incompetent - big difference. If anything it should illustrate the imperative of not giving an individual control of the ground of an eL club. Because that individual can do whatever he likes subsequently, and the only response is moral pressure (i.e. no reponse). I don't think the FAI would have sold Miltown with no alternative if it owned it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
There's not that big a difference-especially if you're a Rovers fan. Being incompetent and negligent is unacceptable at the best of times-when the governing body of the game does it, it does compare to being shafted by them in my book. They should have been more aware of what Kilcoyne was up to and tried to protect Rovers from it, or helped them more when it did actually happen. Maybe then thay woulldn't have festered as badly as they dd for so long. There is FAI accountability in this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
can somebody answer this_what about the money limerick have spent on the ground .Do they get it back or have they been shaged by the fai on that!Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Well, you'll have to explain to everyone how the FAI shagged limerick? because most think that Joe Young shagged limerick by going back on his word to give limerick the lease. Just eleborate a little thats allQuote:
Originally Posted by football boy
Sarcasm Deccie, twas just sarcasm ;) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Thats why you get a minimum 25 year lease on the ground.....Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
You need at least a minimum of 21 years to draw down grants so I would have thought thats obvious ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
But it doesn't matter what term the lease is if it is given to ABC Ltd which is a private limited company. The shareholders in that company e.g. DD or his buddy then have the ground - not Limerick FC. Now i am not for one second suggesting they would do anything against the club. But things change. 10 years down the line and the area gets developed or rezoned etc. ABC Ltd's shareholders decide to assign the lease to a property development company. This is what happened with Miltown - except Kilcoyne owned the ground outright. Rovers did not own the ground. Now the FAI jumped up and down and every body got very excited but there is nothing legally the FAI could have done. Joe talks about the FAI giving more help - there is no help - Kilcoyne owned it. End of.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Realistically it is inconceivable that the FAI would have done a Miltown or would sell a football ground for development. That's the difference and despite what Joe says it is the critical difference.
No they haven't been shagged by the FAI and its ridiculous to suggest they have. The FAI have nothing to do with the ground. Any money spent on improving the ground is not refundable obviously - and this why the ground has not been developed. Anything that is not part of the structure i.e. portacabins can be removed and in fairness apart from that there wasn't really much else put in. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by football boy
Just on this, in fairness to the club there was at least €50k put in in the last few yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Agree with you that its non-refundable though very much a case of tough $hit
My sarcasm was obviously lost on you...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Maybe there was nothing they could have done about it, but they certainly could have done more to protect a club as big as Shamrock Rovers. Yeah Yeah Yeah...I can hear the sympathy for Rovers coming already....but they deserved their association and leagues support and never got it. Help with re-location etc...the same will be the case with Limerick. The FAI and EL have a responsibility to do more to help its member clubs...something it sadly has never done in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
We all know Kilcoyne owned it, so yeah, as you put it, end of !! Surely then stipulations can be put into leases to guarantee the tenure of that lease is used for footballing purposes only, irrespective of whose name its in. There are ways to secure futures-you simply have to want to secure them first of all. I don't think Drew gives a rats ass abot the future of Limerick FC now. He saw it as an egotrip that he could make money out of 2 1/2 years ago...now the cold light of day has slapped him and he now knows that EL football isn't a cash cow like Munster rugby, so he wants to run Good luck to him I say...thanks for trying, but now run off and stick to the curry sauce, or tiles, or whatever it is you're actually good at.
It's more likely that it just wasn't very good :pQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
you're realy a sour person.what did he do to youQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Maybe he had a dodgy curry? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by football boy
Like what? They had no money - it was pre-Charlton etc. They certainly had no money to spend on alternative grounds for one club.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Leases are agreements between two parties - nothing to do with FAi unless they are one of thse parties. The people who are parties to the lease - they decide what goes in to it. If one of them wants to put this stipulation in then it is a case of negtiation. The FAI have no role.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Fair enough - if that's what you think but could you please suggest an alternative source of funds or investment for the club?:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
For someone as sanctimonious as you are LFC in Exile, you don't come up with a lot of solutions yourself. My opinions on Danny Drew are based upon experiences I've personally witnessed at matches, coupled with business dealings I have had with the Drew family outside of football.
I do believe he is a spoofer...I do believe that he is self-centred, and I do believe that the investment he has shown to Limerick FC over the past two years will stop now that he realises theres not going to be an easy pot of gold in it for him.
All I was saying re the Rovers situation is that the FAI could have done more to help them. Regardless of it being pre-Charlton or not. Incidently it wasn't pre-Charlton-Kilcoyne sold Miltown in December 1987, a time when Ireland had just qualified for their first ever major championships under Jack Charlton!!
As regards alternative resources for the club, I have about as many ideas as the next man. A trust, proper lobbying of the right people, who knows. What I do THINK is that this Drew character is going to turn out to be possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to Limerick FC. But that's just mu opinion....
Let's keep it to opinions here...no attacking the poster.
Milltown was sold in December 1988. The FAI did nothing then for us just as they are doing nothing now.
This was proven when they elected the scum Lucifer to be President. Can you imagine this happening in any other country? The guy who killled off the biggest club being elected to President of the Football Association?:rolleyes:
Anyway good luck with any meeting with the FAI. They have a remarkable skill in saying a lot while meaning nothing.
KOH
I don't come up with solutions because I don't think there are any options. Whatever your opinions of DD we are in a situation where there is no obvious alternative investor/chairman. If I wanted DD out (as you seem to do) then I'd need to have something better in mind. I think a supporters trust is a great idea nad would be a better situation - but lets get realistic here, we can't even organise a SC meeting - how could a trust be organised?Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
If DD walks in the morning where is the club? It is beside the point what you think of him - if you want the club to continue then either we live with DD or we get real in terms of alternatives.
On the other one - when I said pre-Charlton I meant it was pre-money bags FAI. I absolutely agree that the FAI was and probably still is incompetent but I don't understand why you are arguing that the FAI should not get the lease and at the same time saying that DD is so bad. I am not (consciously) being sanctimonious - but thats in the eye of the beholder - I am genuinely trying to understand what your arguments are. :ball:
From the Rovers website:
400 fans at €40 a week....sounds workable. Obviously a lot of responsible people needed to do this, but surely, surely they're out there.Quote:
Tragedy was to strike in 1987 when, just as the season was coming to an end, the news leaked out that the Kilcoynes had sold the Milltown ground for property development. Fury erupted amongst the Hoops faithful who boycotted the alternative venue of Tolka Park and the club was brought to its knees. In 1988 the Kilcoynes sold out to a consortium of interested fans led by John McNamara but efforts to buy back Milltown failed and the ground was lost forever. In 1990, McNamara pulled off a coup by securing the Royal Dublin Showgrounds as a venue for Rovers to play in but that particular era came to an end in 1996.