Any word when the verdicts on the presentations are out on who will be in the top division next season. People can probably guess 9/10 of the 12 but when will we have official word, fixtures etc.
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Any word when the verdicts on the presentations are out on who will be in the top division next season. People can probably guess 9/10 of the 12 but when will we have official word, fixtures etc.
...........plus an appeal procedure time - actual line up will not be confirned to a week before the season kicks off
I sh.t u not!
I would think at this stage looking at the table it would be very hard to justify relegating UCD over Bray. At the minute they are 6th and even if St Pats overtake them, 7th is a respectable finish. Bray should be fighting for a play off place in a normal year. UCD might play boring football at times but the players they bring through mean they should be in the top flight as no one should be able to use lack of fans as a basis for going down and they will have a new ground next year so keep UCD up.. even though they ground out two 0-0 draws with us this year.
If the criteria is applied correctly I can't see how UCD would be relegated. The only category we fall down on is attendences, and that only makes up less than 10% of the overall marks.
I know you have a dislike for us but apart from that what are the reasons Dundalk shouldnt go up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Rovers on the field have been good but they have no ground and therefore no catchment area. I thought these were big parts of the new look league?
In response to the actual question, I think the 8th (or the 18th) of December have been mentioned as the announcement date.
Yes true, our five year record is very poor. We may struggle on this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
No we are not. We are not in dept never mind heavily in dept. We are under new ownership and being run like a business. We are living well within our means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Why what is the standard? We have a 1500 seater stand and terracing along the far side of the ground which will be turned into a stand in the future. We have two bars both of which have recently been done up. We have knocked down the old toilets for the terraces and are currently building new ones. We are building new dressing rooms in the close season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
We have one of the best support bases in the whole league. Games are being advertised better and we have become more of a community based club. Schools and a number of clubs are now playing football up in oriel park. The Dundalk FC trust have also raised a lot of money for local charities thus improving Dundalk FC's name in greater Dundalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Not a chance Louth is one of the most populated counties in Ireland. Most people north of Drogheda would support Dundalk. Drogheda fans come from the town itself and MeathQuote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
All those clubs apart from rovers have long term leases on their grounds. If no Eircom league team wanted to let Rovers ground share next season you would be rightly fúckedQuote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
We also have a number of underage clubs and a womans club. All clubs in the league have to its part of the licence laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Blues are guarenteed top flight footie next year, heard it on friday night at our end of season get together down town;) .
Looks like its Bray or UCD to take the drop. Rovers to come up!
I have said it plenty of times before, but I think the 11 teams in the Premier at present will still be there next year and will be joined by Shamrock Rovers. Can't see any of the other First Division teams getting in.
Wow! What happened in the six weeks since I was last up there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
I think you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by harps1954
Sorry to burst your bubble but all of Louth from Annagsson down is Drog territory - I live in Dunleer and its Drogs all the way there with flags hanging out of houses, jerseys worn every where, poster sin shops and pubs - everyone talks about the Drogs (ther eis one scumbag who wears a Duns jersey but I think he is just lost). In Castlebellingham I see Drog jerseys everyday - not one Dundalk jersey. Dundalk supoport IMO is north of Castlebellingham and North of Dundalk. South of that is 100% ours. Add into the equation the town itself, Balbriggan and Navan and you will see that we are indeed the Pride of the North East.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
From the figures I was given. Dundalk were no higher than 15th on the pitch. They won't make that up elsewhere. Bray were 12th, Harps 13th and Galway 14th
Dundalk fans (and Galway) should realise this is nothing personal, however when you READ THE CRITERIA for scoring for the new Premier, you can see that already decided positions from the 4 year record leave Dundalk trailing the likes of Bray (by 80 points), UCD (by 90pts) Waterford (by 100pts). Add the fact htat even if Dundalk win the First Division there there is very little scope for making up that many points on Bray for example in the other categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
This is the reason many people believe Dundalk have no chance of competing in the new Premier and that if they do get up it will highlight that the scoring system actually WAS a farce and that the UCD fans were not being the paranoid conspiracy theorists we thought they were. :)
The same argument applies to Galway although the margins are slightly lower.
So its nothing to do with people opinions, or all the fine things about your club which you list, if down to people looking at the cold hard facts and figures. So no need for any fan of any club to take it so personally when people point this out.
Well if the FAI follow it to the absoloutle specifications in the Criteria Shels won't get a license.We all know that won't happen.
There's too many people on the board with different opinions.For example i found out the last day the playoff is worth up to 20 points.......not the 1-15 that was mentioned.Some Harps lads especially think they have it all sussed out.Yee're not far off but yee certainly don't know what the FAI will do.
Pure rubbish. There is no way Castlebellingham has more Drawda fans than Dundalk fans. Ardee is also a Dundalk supporting town though it is south of Castlebellingham. I know quite a few Dundalk fans from Ardee and I have never heard of anyone from the place supporting Drawda. Dunleer and south of it is your territory. We have two very different fanbases. Any overlap on them is quite minimal. I can't see the fact that you (currently) play in Louth being a factor in how our fanbase potential is judged for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
I think you could very well be right Conor. I think there's a very real chance that when it comes to it the FAI may ignore their own criteria.Quote:
Yee're not far off but yee certainly don't know what the FAI will do.
I've said all along that the process needs to be transparent and open but with Delaney in charge does anyone expect that?
I think that what this debate proves more than anything else is that the sooner the league goes back to deciding who plays where based on results on the pitch, and nothing else, the better
I agree with that to a large extent, but there should also be a line in the sand regarding standards to play in the premier division or indeed the league.Quote:
I think that what this debate proves more than anything else is that the sooner the league goes back to deciding who plays where based on results on the pitch, and nothing else, the better
i.e. if licensing was done right we'd be grand.
The ideal scenario is that UCD get demoted and Waterford stay up. Then the UCD lads go ape and take the FAI to court. Delaney gets found out and is sacked. :D
Another thing that occurred to me is that should the fai drop a club to the first division i can envisage some clubs going through the courts and yet again our league will be in the newspapers for all the wrong reasons. Also lets put it this way outside Pats, Shels, Derry, Cork, Bohs, Drogs and (possibly) Longford(nothing Would Surprise me with the FAI involved) noone should think they are guaranteed admission to the top flight.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by harps1954
Decision day is Monday the 11th of December. We've made it a lot easier by winning the first.
KOH
I think Galway have done enough to be included.
There are too many clubs around the Dublin area so Bray could be demoted.
Bit optimistic there Peadar, I don't think Delaney would be sacked if he went on an axe murdering spree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
And how exactly would the fact that he enjoys the occasional axe-murder in any way hinder the continuance of the fine work he's been doing in the FAIQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Really, some of you people on here will come up with ANY excuse to twist the knife into poor John :(
I think all this axe murdering is bringing the game into disrepute, and would like to take this oppertunity to criticise Clinton Morrisson for no reason. Also, you're an idiot for disagreeing with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
I feel that the axe-murdering is a private matter for Mr.Delaney and his long suffering wife Lizzie and as such should not be brought into the public domain and in anyway connected with the FAIQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
In a totally unrelated developement Clinton Morrissons carcass has been found in several plastic bags in bins off Merrion Square. Gardai are following a definite line of enquiry with rumours from inside the FAI suggesting a suicide due to loss of form
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Originally Posted by holidaysong
Hey its nothing personal just plain facts, the Drogs are the team most supported by the Louth areas outside of the two town boundaries. Ardee is clearly a Drog base - how you dispute this is beyond me - maybe a few of your mates moved there to have a sprinkling of Duns fans but its Claret and Blue all the way when it comes to Ardee. Give your friends a few more years living there and they will soon convert to the one true football club in Louth and the Norht East - Drogheda United FC.
Listen you can have Carlingford - nice village - lovely area - they would relish some 1st div. football next season.
drogs and de dalk should merge to form Louth United. At least then you might get decent numbers at your games and end all this bickering.
ah Peadar - the old masterDrogbaitor.
sorry no catch today, :p
So hows your clubs campaign going - whats it called again
"please can someone come in and be our chairman as our other one couldn't be arsed wasting cash in this black hole anymore"?
The criteria are perfectly clear. Everything you need to know is contained in the part where it says that the AIG's findings are subject to FAI approval.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
Don't think I'll have to wait too long for this post to come back and bite you in the arse. Boy will I enjoy that. You newcomers, who jumped on the drogs bandwagon, are so naive!Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
thats it old pal - throw in more bait - but the fish aren't biting :cool:
So how was it to watch more of your championship winning side walk off the pitch on Friday never to return - getting to be a bit of routine thing now isn't it. Maybe Cobh can loan you some players for next season.
Players leaving, even the chairman jumping ship and manager saying he will walk if people want him to - the water level must be neck high now - time to jump maybe?
There should be fixed critea that you need to meet off the field for the different divisions. After that, decide on the pitch. They could even issue licences for clubs to show that they reach that set critea. Surprised it hasn't been done before tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by floatinghoop
Ach, it'd never work. Clubs would submit in the wrong coloured pen, others to the wrong address. They'd spend so long looking after details like that that noone would spot that a club was on the verge of bankruptcy or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Are you having a laugh?? Ardee is 100% Dundalk supporters. We also have fans in south armagh, monaghan castlebellingham and parts of dunleer you have everything south of dunleer. Dont try and tell me that there is no Dundalk fans in Dunleer as the Travel club picks fans up there for away matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
You're too funny! We had one man carry the burdon of running a club for the last 5 years or so. Under him, we've become the biggest club in the country. You've had multiple investors pour money into your club but you've only managed to emulate Longford. I'd like to know how long it will take them to get bored.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
We're still in a strong position, with one of the best U21 squads in the country and, as was visible on Friday night, the best ability of any side to draw a crowd. If the new deal goes ahead, the burdon will be spread across multiple people. We'll have a decent manager next season and a decent squad. I have no fear of that. You, on the other hand, have to fear for how long your false sense of security can last.
Peadar who is the new Cork manager?
As another poster alluded to in another thread it makes for interesting speculation during the close season.
So thats Bohs, Cork, Shels and Derry that are all in the hunt for new managers, with the likes of Fenlon Connor Kerr Dolan Rico and Shawaddy all actively looking for jobs as well as Aldo (possibly). Will the new manager be one of the ones above?
Kingdom, I don't discuss private matters about Cork City FC on this forum. I hope you'll appreciate why. All will become clearer in the next few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Drogheda people, Dundalk people this is one of the most ludicrous arguments I've ever seen
We have this area, you have that area Blah, Blah, Blah. Fact is neither of ye have much support anywhere in Louth if your attendances are anything to go by so this arguing about townlands, villages, parishes etc is pathetic
Before anybody comes in with Limericks attendances are crap, I acknowledge that, but you won't here me arguing with a Cork City fan about Charleville or a Galway fan about Ennis. Sheesh
Btw I'd like to think all the more civilised people in Louth follow Drogs :p