Hi i am posting this thread to try and inject a little bit of sportsmanship back into the clubs in our league who have lost it
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Hi i am posting this thread to try and inject a little bit of sportsmanship back into the clubs in our league who have lost it
Not worth the hassle Old Keeper,
my club had a problem with a particular club in two consecutive seasons, in both games the opposing team had a player down and we stopped play and told them, yet they continued playing on, sparking all manner of problems, thankfully this unwritten rule is gone. The reason it's gone - sportsmanship IS dead
If there is anyone from pike on the thread please pass this on to your chairman
Law 3 states
A match is played by two teams, each consisting of not more than eleven players, one of whom is the goalkeeper. A match may not start if either team consists of fewer than seven players
He is under the impression that teams must have 11 to play
Law 7 states
The match lasts two equal periods of 45 minutes, unless otherwise mutually agreed between the referee and the two participating teams.
Any agreement to alter the periods of play (for example to reduce each half to 40 minutes because of insufficient light) must be made before the start of play and must comply with competition rules.
St Patricks were down for two games today, one was this morning, but the Minor game was this afternoon and as it clashed with the county final, We were struggling to field. Not wanting to give a walkover we managed to get 9 players to travel. these lads have great heart and wanted to field rather than have the club give a walkover. Before the game started I asked the Pike staff to play 30mins a side in order to keep the score respectable as our lads knew going into the game that there was slim hope of winning. Pike agreed to play 1 full 45 and 5 or 10 into the second half. all were happy, until half time when pike decided they wanted to play an additional 30 mins and not only that but winning 9-2 at half time were shouting lets get another 9 lads. I remonstrated with the pike manager and the club chairman that an agreement was made but was given short shrift. I am proud of the effoorts of the 9 St Pats players and applaud the fact that they scored 3 goals and kept going to the final whistle. (In fairness the game was blown up early by the ref)
I just find it distastful that clubs feel that they need to drive home every nail when faced with little or no opposition, this is a role for managers to take in hand and display some sportsmanship in these situations. It also leaves a bad taste in the mouth when teams agree to play a set time and this is not respected.
We all went to the county final afterwards to be further depressed but thats life
That wasnt very nice of Pike but as 3 Heroes said, sportsmanship is dead. Only on occasion do you see sportsmanship on the field anymore.
When it does happen that a team is being well beaten the ref usually asks both teams managers if they want to finish the game and usually both managers agree to finish. Poor form on Pikes manager today. There is absolutely nothing to gain from playing on. There are only 3 points up for grabs and it doesnt matter if you win 1-0 or 12-0. Its not as if the losing team are actually putting up a battle when they are down by 6 or 7.
As for the manager not knowing how many players are needed to start a game,how stupid can he be? It sounds like he just wanted the easy walkover and then when the game started he decided he would embaress your club by beating 9 players by as much as possible just because he had to go through the rigmarole of a game when the points were a cert. Nothing worse than a bad winner. He will have no luck for it.
It would have been karma if a player on team in a similiar position leading had been injured during the time that had not been agreed to play in
i agree totaly......Quote:
Originally Posted by larrywhite
there is no excuse for what you said went on oldkeeper, none whatsoever, but in answer to your question is sportsmanship dead the answer is yes, just look at what happens after play is stopped for an injury and the team gives the ball back. where does it go? down into the corner for a throw in, thats not sportsmanship, as far as im concerned the ball should either be rolled to the fullback or kicked to the keeper, but it never happens does it?
as a pike man I agree its bad form but old keeper you, better than anyone, should know the pike chairmans form at this stage.
what i would have done was have a few players go down injured/then go off and got the game abondoned due to insufficient players. That would of made the pike boys happy :D
who said sportsmanship is dead !
Now thats good thinking...Quote:
what i would have done was have a few players go down injured/then go off and got the game abondoned due to insufficient players. That would of made the pike boys happy
who said sportsmanship is dead !
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Originally Posted by Old keeper
Oldkeeper
What competition was this in? and what was the final score?
Just curious
Youth division 2Quote:
Originally Posted by abbeyvale
Final score 9-3
what brainbox put ye down for a game the same day as the county final in all fairness............
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Originally Posted by Old keeper
Who's the manager of the Pike youth team??
To be fair the manager was not present as he was abroad on holiday, I dont know the name of the chap who was running things on the day. but there was a large presence.Quote:
Originally Posted by abbeyvale
I wouldnt really blame the pike lads,
_-MOD EDIT-:Leave out the name calling.
Oldkeeper,i think because of the pike chairmans relationship with a recently suspended LDMC member you wouldnt be his favourite person......................
Oldkeeper,i think because of the pike chairmans relationship with a recently suspended LDMC member you wouldnt be his favourite person......................[/QUOTE]
Who is the suspended LDMC member and why is he suspended??
I know Old Keeper probably cant answer that one, so can someone else answer it.
Lads am i right in thinking that this county final is GAA!!!
Well why not play a soccer match at the same time,
if they want to go to watch a GAA match i say off with them....Different sport....If there was a soccer final on would the GAA refix there league...I think not....
easy to say that smellyfeet if your a city team but when it comes to country teams most of their players play gaa as well, we can't do anything about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
Good to see that all the bigots are not just in the GAA!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
County teams being short due to GAA commitments is hardly the fault or concern of those making the fixtures.
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Originally Posted by Roadend
Exactly.
lack of common sense is though
Perhaps the season shouldn't start till October every year then, make sure every player for every club is back from Holidays and such. Hell they could regularly call games off due to Weddings/Stags/21st/ Anniversaries or any other thing that could cause a team to be short players even, gasp, GAA county finals.
here i wasn't implying that i was just saying thats the situation you have with county teams and soccer fixtures because GAA is played more... most weeks some county teams will scrap their best squad and others they have to bring players from their B or C squad because of GAA. it doesn't matter what you try to do this situation will stay... but i can fully understand patrickswell situation on Sunday senior final is a big event and fair play to those 9 lads who went out to play cause they missed a good game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
hi smelly feetQuote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
you are correct it was a gaa game. however we did not look for the game off we fulfilled the fixture. the issue was one of a broken agreement on the day.
we also played our Fai game that morning we never seek games off due to gaa games. but sometimes we are short on the youth side when they clash.
yeah you got good result against us old keeper, we have got very poor recently. your forwards ran me rotten at the back on sunday my old age kicking in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
Who is the suspended LDMC member and why is he suspended??Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops 1967
I know Old Keeper probably cant answer that one, so can someone else answer it.[/QUOTE]
Hughie O'Neill was suspended locally had it reduced to 12 months oin appeal to Cork. Appealed that decision to FAI and accompanied by Mick Noonan of Pike, Eamon Heffernan of Fairview and Paul Neville of Caherdavin (to name a few) lost his appeal and now stands suspended.
[/QUOTE]Hughie O'Neill was suspended locally had it reduced to 12 months oin appeal to Cork. Appealed that decision to FAI and accompanied by Mick Noonan of Pike, Eamon Heffernan of Fairview and Paul Neville of Caherdavin (to name a few) lost his appeal and now stands suspended.[/QUOTE]
why was he suspended?
Hughie O'Neill was suspended locally had it reduced to 12 months oin appeal to Cork. Appealed that decision to FAI and accompanied by Mick Noonan of Pike, Eamon Heffernan of Fairview and Paul Neville of Caherdavin (to name a few) lost his appeal and now stands suspended.[/QUOTE]
why was he suspended?[/QUOTE]
lads old keeper is ger finnan with st,pats dats why he is upset he just got voted of the ldmc dis year
We shouldnt and dont need FIFA or anyone to tell us what is and isnt sportmanship.If you want to put the ball out cause an oponent is injured do it.
Come on PAULO Di CANIO
why was he suspended?[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by the only 1
lads old keeper is ger finnan with st,pats dats why he is upset he just got voted of the ldmc dis year[/QUOTE]
Thank God you told us that,did you figure that out by yourself, i think everyone on this site knew who it was,he's the man trying to bring the ldmc out of the dark ages.Doesnt matter how long his on the ldmc, IT NEEDED NEW BLOOD BADLY.:eek:
lads old keeper is ger finnan with st,pats dats why he is upset he just got voted of the ldmc dis year[/QUOTE]
Hi theonlyone.
I'm sorry but I picked my name on this site as a description rather than something to hide behind! I would be pretty silly to try and pretend to be anyone else. but lets get back to the point of this thread shall we?
Now that you have established who I am, do you think I was wrong to be upset when a team broke an agreement made before the game started?
Do you think I was wrong to be upset when the chairman of one club was misquoting the laws of the game?
Do you think it is good sportsmanship to try to humiliate your opposition?
letme know your opinion.
lastly it is spelt Finnin not Finnan and did you mean voted onto the LDMC in your post?
well in fairness the result was in doubt right up to the final whistle, and once again it was a pleasure to have a good clean game of soccer played by both sides as is always the case with holycrossQuote:
Originally Posted by holycrossjock
Hi theonlyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
I'm sorry but I picked my name on this site as a description rather than something to hide behind! I would be pretty silly to try and pretend to be anyone else. but lets get back to the point of this thread shall we?
Now that you have established who I am, do you think I was wrong to be upset when a team broke an agreement made before the game started?
Do you think I was wrong to be upset when the chairman of one club was misquoting the laws of the game?
Do you think it is good sportsmanship to try to humiliate your opposition?
letme know your opinion.
lastly it is spelt Finnin not Finnan and did you mean voted onto the LDMC in your post?[/QUOTE]
Finnin?, are u not related to Dermot Finnan ex Fairview legend...
Finnin?, are u not related to Dermot Finnan ex Fairview legend...[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by newlad
No Relation i'm afraid!
Mind you having played on one of the best minor teams to come out of fairview I would like to think that I might be a bit of a legend myself :D :D :D
I am afraid to say soccer will always be the poor relation when it comes to Gaa cussons.
All you can do is go cap in hand. but the gap is closing and in some cases good gaa clubs and football clubs agree to work with one another in the interest of sport. so I say fair play to those who do.:)
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Originally Posted by Old keeper
No Relation i'm afraid!
Mind you having played on one of the best minor teams to come out of fairview I would like to think that I might be a bit of a legend myself :D :D :D[/QUOTE]
no hes alberts brother
Well I really have heard it all now!
Secret meetings! pre printed letters being sent to clubs! petitions for emergency meetings! misinformation on why people were suspended!
Who needs sky movies,
If anyone or any club needs to know why any member of the committee was suspended please contact the committee or myself by email or just PM me. as they say the truth is a great release.
And for those who say that they are not getting involved in issues, there is the saying that goes
"All evil needs to prosper is for good men to do nothing"