Biased Dublin Refs

Many people on this forum may agree or disagree, but its plainly clear that Dublin referees are biased and anti outside dublin. Monday nite and tonite proved that referees are corrupt. They are clearly favouring dublin teams against teams outside of the city.

1. Pat Jennings red card was never a sending off in a million years!! Not only was the man goin away from goal but there were two derry defenders covering.

2. David fordes red card was never a red card!! Again refs being biased towards dublin teams!

3. How could Ian Stokes send someone off, running at them to show a red card and not see the player hitting his opponent in the privates. That for me is a red card. Hargy deserved to go on monday nite which the ref never gave(strangly!). Killian Brennan deserved at least a yellow too!

4. When a player is in posession and is pulled from behid and brought to the ground, that warrants a yellow card. The ref tonite didnt even give a free-kick which was staggering!!

I think everyone knows that refs are biased towards dublin clubs. When the FAI assume control of the league, one of the things they must do is sort out the corruptness in the refereeing, improve ref standards and place a rule were refs cannot officiate a game in which the official comes from the same city as any of the clubs involved. Many fans are fed-up with this continued bias and it must be cut out, once and for all!!!!:mad: :mad:

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

but its plainly clear that Dublin referees are biased and anti outside dublin. Monday nite and tonite proved that referees are corrupt. They are clearly favouring dublin teams against teams outside of the city.

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How do you explain the multitude of bizarre decisions in Dublin derbies then.

And I would expect many a Gypsy curse to come your way citing the Devlin goal that wasn't and the Fabio goal that was.

I believe they call it gurning CTID. Get over it, all the refs are crap, you're just getting a bad run of it at the minute.

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How do you explain the multitude of bizarre decisions in Dublin derbies then.

And I would expect many a Gypsy curse to come your way citing the Devlin goal that wasn't and the Fabio goal that was.

I believe they call it gurning CTID. Get over it, all the refs are crap, you're just getting a bad run of it at the minute

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1. Dunno

2. Ref was Alan Kelly and he got suspended for it!!

3. All refs are crap, but we are not gettin a bad run of it, we are always gettin it, and this isnt just derry but cork and others aswell!!

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Paul Devlin's goal in Bray wasnt seen by the officials [v Bray]

Fabio scored a goal against us but the ball got no closer then 2 yards to the goal line [v drogheda]

Penalty given against Bohs [v Derry in July] for a foul that happens 50 times a game

McKeown gave a penalty against us in Drogheda in June when the foul happened 2 yards outside the penalty area

Goal against Cork disallowed for offside even though it was clearly onside.

Dublin bias it aint, Sh1t refereeing it is.


How many times have away teams been mugged in the Brandywell in the past 21 years?

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There ahve been a lot of teams who have been mugged at the brandy!! This is not a rant at Dublin clubs but the referees!!

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

When the FAI assume control of the league, one of the things they must do is sort out the corruptness in the refereeing, improve ref standards and place a rule were refs cannot officiate a game in which the official comes from the same city as any of the clubs involved. Many fans are fed-up with this continued bias and it must be cut out, once and for all!!!!:mad: :mad:

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The FAI are already responsible for the referees and I can't see how the el coming under the control of the FAI can or will change that.

Standard of refering is diabolical in the league but particularly this season. Have seen frees given and the players of both sides looking at each other wondering why it was given.

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I could also point to Stokes booking 9 Bohs players and sending off two in the League Cup game against Shels.

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That ****** must be just anti anyone but shels then!! Fair enuff, Bohs dont seem to be gettin any favours from refs but it seems everytime we play a team from dublin the ref is biased, Alan Kelly done the shels FAI Cup game, were there any poor decisions givin against both sides? NO! Was it a clean match? YES!

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

There ahve been a lot of teams who have been mugged at the brandy!! This is not a rant at Dublin clubs but the referees!!

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and your claiming there is bias towards Dublin clubs.

I have listed 4/5 incidents this season were Bohs [a Dublin Club] were on the receiving end of woeful decisions from officials against non Dublin clubs, including one against Derry and another against Cork.

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I dont recall you criticising Alan Kelly for the penalty Derry got in Dalymount on July 7th?

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I have said that was never a pen!! Just the same as i said it was never a peno against u against drogheda and laughed that the linesman gave a goal for drogs against u, so this isnt just me crying over Derry City never gettin any decisions, this is generally refs biased towards teams in Dublin!!

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Originally Posted by steno

Standard of refering is diabolical in the league but particularly this season.

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I wonder if that's the case or is it just that we have so much more tv coverage this year that the blundering officials have nowhere to hide?

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

I think everyone knows that refs are biased towards dublin clubs. When the FAI assume control of the league, one of the things they must do is sort out the corruptness in the refereeing, improve ref standards and place a rule were refs cannot officiate a game in which the official comes from the same city as any of the clubs involved.

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Uhh that leaves exactly how many refs?

kdjac

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

I have said that was never a pen!! Just the same as i said it was never a peno against u against drogheda and laughed that the linesman gave a goal for drogs against u, so this isnt just me crying over Derry City never gettin any decisions, this is generally refs biased towards teams in Dublin!!

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we lost 2-1 to Derry, as a result of that penalty given with the score at 1-1.

How in gods name can you claim the refs are biased towards Dublin clubs when we have been robbed blind by the stupid fukkers all season long.

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I wonder if that's the case or is it just that we have so much more tv coverage this year that the blundering officials have nowhere to hide?

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The officials have always been like this but since more tv coverage has came, the officials are bein found out for the plonkers they really are!! By the way i'm not referring to all dublin refs and just ask David Jeffrey wot he thinks of the standards down here!! The IL have better standards than us for christ sake!!

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we lost 2-1 to Derry, as a result of that penalty given with the score at 1-1.

How in gods name can you claim the refs are biased towards Dublin clubs when we have been robbed blind by the stupid fukkers all season long.

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Alright then why didnt the ref book or even give a free kick against two bohs players who halfed Mark Farren who was out of action for three months with torn ankle ligaments?

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

The IL have better standards than us for christ sake!!

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Really?

from Irish League Forum

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Every week one referee or another makes a **** up. And so it seems it happened again last night in Linfield's game against the Whites.

In a bizarre incident referee Mark Courtney blew for half-time after just 40 minutes - the official was alerted of his error and the game resumed.

God help us !!!!!

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Originally Posted by el punter

I wonder if that's the case or is it just that we have so much more tv coverage this year that the blundering officials have nowhere to hide?

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Thats a very good point.

But something needs to be done about the refereeing standards here they are gone past a joke.

My .02c:

In my opinion, it was a red card tonight.

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Alright then why didnt the ref book or even give a free kick against two bohs players who halfed Mark Farren who was out of action for three months with torn ankle ligaments?

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you got a penalty for nothing and 3 points, is that not enough of a biased decision for you?

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you got a penalty for nothing and 3 points, is that not enough of a biased decision for you?

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Maybe i shud have changed the title, "biased dublin refs against anyone but shels". I cannot see everthin that happens in every game so on the sounds of things, bohs are on the same boat as every other team in LOI but shels. The only reason i done this was because in the last two games, refs have been bltantly biased towards shels, and even the staunchest shels fan cudnt argue!! It has happened in other games against dublin culbs but not as occasionaly!

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Maybe i shud have changed the title, "biased dublin refs against anyone but shels". I cannot see everthin that happens in every game so on the sounds of things, bohs are on the same boat as every other team in LOI but shels. The only reason i done this was because in the last two games, refs have been bltantly biased towards shels, and even the staunchest shels fan cudnt argue!! It has happened in other games against dublin culbs but not as occasionaly!

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Actually the ref was correct to send off Brennan and although I thought the red card for Forde was harsh if it happened up the far end you wouldnt be claiming the ref was biased.

You have been on the wrong end of some tough calls.

We have been robbed blind.

Derry have had their fair share of these decisions in their favour over the years. Didnt hear too many complainst coming from the Brandywell when they were going your way so time to suffer a few of these decisions against you

Here's the Drogs lads freaking out about Stokes performance in the Drogs v BRay game tonight.

It's got nothing to do with Dublin clubs CTID. It's to do with crap refs.

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Actually the ref was correct to send off Brennan and although I thought the red card for Forde was harsh if it happened up the far end you wouldnt be claiming the ref was biased.

You have been on the wrong end of some tough calls.

We have been robbed blind.

Derry have had their fair share of these decisions in their favour over the years. Didnt hear too many complainst coming from the Brandywell when they were going your way so time to suffer a few of these decisions against you

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If it happened up the far end it wud never have been given, thats my point!! As for brennan, it was a rash lunge but he never touched the player!! Yellow minimum!! Were was Heary's card??

We have been on the end of rediculous, biased calls, plain and simple!!

http://elevenaside.com/premier/irish...p?newsid=24574

Not just me then!!!

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

If it happened up the far end it wud never have been given, thats my point!! As for brennan, it was a rash lunge but he never touched the player!! Yellow minimum!! Were was Heary's card??

We have been on the end of rediculous, biased calls, plain and simple!!

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they are biased decisions, they are just poor decisions, end of.

Brennan lunged in and could not possibly win the ball the way he tackeld Heary, it was a red card for violent conduct/dangerous foul play. Heary's retaliation was not acted upon when it should have been but the reaction of the Derry player was a theatrical one which probably made the ref think it was a bit of playacting.

If Derry had managed to get in behind Shelbourne's defence and the Shels keeper got sent off in the exact same circumstances would you claim it was a biased decision against Dublin clubs? You obviosuly feel Forde's red was totally unwarranted. I thought it was harsh but can understand why the ref did send him off.

Its time you understood that its not biased refereeing, the league is riddled with absolutely ****e refereeing. Derry have been the beneficiaries of plenty of these decisons and you werent on your high horse claiming biased officiating when that was happening.

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

http://elevenaside.com/premier/irish...p?newsid=24574

Not just me then!!!

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Again I didnt hear too many complaints from Kenny when Alan Kelly gave you a free penalty and an extra 2 points on July 7th in Dalymount against Bohs.

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they are biased decisions, they are just poor decisions, end of.

Brennan lunged in and could not possibly win the ball the way he tackeld Heary, it was a red card for violent conduct/dangerous foul play. Heary's retaliation was not acted upon when it should have been but the reaction of the Derry player was a theatrical one which probably made the ref think it was a bit of playacting.

If Derry had managed to get in behind Shelbourne's defence and the Shels keeper got sent off in the exact same circumstances would you claim it was a biased decision against Dublin clubs? You obviosuly feel Forde's red was totally unwarranted. I thought it was harsh but can understand why the ref did send him off.

Its time you understood that its not biased refereeing, the league is riddled with absolutely ****e refereeing. Derry have been the beneficiaries of plenty of these decisons and you werent on your high horse claiming biased officiating when that was happening.

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Its a combination of ****e and biased!! I dont think u'll find many Derry fans who believe that when theya re playin a dublin club, notably shels the ref if from dublin is totally lenient!! If a manager who knows the LOI inside out and is IMO the best in the league, then it must be saying somethin! Altho it wasnt anythin to do with derry, cork played shels in the setanta cup last year and wen a header went towards goal and clearly didnt cross the line, the ref(Dave Mckeown, weres he from??) have a goal!!! HHHMMMMMMM!!! Is that poor refereeing or biased? I think u know my answer!!

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Alan Kelly

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And were is he from?? Wots the title??

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Its a combination of ****e and biased!! I dont think u'll find many Derry fans who believe that when theya re playin a dublin club, notably shels the ref if from dublin is totally lenient!! If a manager who knows the LOI inside out and is IMO the best in the league, then it must be saying somethin! Altho it wasnt anythin to do with derry, cork played shels in the setanta cup last year and wen a header went towards goal and clearly didnt cross the line, the ref(Dave Mckeown, weres he from??) have a goal!!! HHHMMMMMMM!!! Is that poor refereeing or biased? I think u know my answer!!

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the ref didnt give the goal in that Cork v Shels game. The assistant Referee did.

I can remember Shels getting stung in Cork a few times in the past few seasons.

It isnt bias. Its pure ****e, end of.

I am sure there are plenty of times Shels feel they were screwed over by poor refereeing.

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I am sure there are plenty of times Shels feel they were screwed over by poor refereeing.

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Ollie prob forgot to pay them!!!

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Originally Posted by bohs til i die

I can remember Shels getting stung in Cork a few times in the past few seasons.

I am sure there are plenty of times Shels feel they were screwed over by poor refereeing.

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Here chief, Shels get enough protection from the league, they don't need you to fight their battles for them too.

Oh and when its two Dublin teams - the Dublin refs decides who to play for when tossin' the coin.

Yiz should stop listening to Stephen Kenny (or vice versa.) Talk of Dublin bias is ludicrous (for a start, eight out of ten refs would have red-carded both goalkeepers in similar circumstances, and they would have been right.)

An equally salient question is how Sean Hargan can commit three red card offences in five days and only have a booking and a sore shoulder to show for them.

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

An equally salient question is how Sean Hargan can commit three red card offences in five days and only have a booking and a sore shoulder to show for them.

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hahah, very true. Good shout Sheridan.

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

Yiz should stop listening to Stephen Kenny (or vice versa.) Talk of Dublin bias is ludicrous (for a start, eight out of ten DUBLIN refs would have red-carded both goalkeepers in similar circumstances, and they would have been right.)

An equally salient question is how Sean Hargan can commit three red card offences in five days and only have a booking and a sore shoulder to show for them.

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Thats more like it. ;)

Fordes hand ball was unintentional

Unless Pat two footed yer man he shouldn't have been straight red carded - two defenders behind him - so he certainly wasn't the last man.

Wh...what? I'll tell you what Daniel, you address me in something more closely approximating to the language of your beloved sovereign and I might deign to proffer a response.

Okay, I think I've deciphered it now. Utterly irrelevant whether Jennings was the last man (in practice, "last" means "last but one" as it normally discounts the goalkeeper) - he denied Byrne a clear goal-scoring opportunity. As for Forde on Monday, when a 'keeper comes tearing out of his box and handles a shot which was bound anywhere in the same postcode as his goal, any referee is going to send him off. Did you hear his explanation afterwards? ("The ball bounced off my foot onto my arm and then Alan Moore took me out.") If it were up to me he'd get a second, retrospective red card for talking utter b0llocks.

Sheridan your lack of a team to follow is obviously resulting in your intepretation of the rules being a little rusty.

Taking the ball away from goal with 2 men back does not constitute a "clear goal scoring opportunity".

I`ve no qualms saying that individually, the 3 recent sendings off were marginal but believable. But taken together, along with Heary`s non-sending off by tonights chief clown, the whole thing stinks.

Whatever about the ridiculousness of "Dublin bias", there's a simple way to avoid it even being mentioned. Don't appoint Dublin referees to Dublin teams. I don't care how many refs are from Dublin, that's the FAI`s problem to sort out.

P.S. is the "Ridden Rock Solid by Dublin" club still accepting new members?

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Originally Posted by sfc red

Jesus Christ, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so stupid as to think that a referee would intentionally set out to try make the team from Dublin win. Cop yourself on for fuk sake :rolleyes:

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Yeah yer right, because its totally and utterly beyond the realms of possibility in THIS league :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by City till I Die

Many people on this forum may agree or disagree, but its plainly clear that Dublin referees are biased and anti outside dublin.

David fordes red card was never a red card!! Again refs being biased towards dublin teams!

How could Ian Stokes send someone off, running at them to show a red card and not see the player hitting his opponent in the privates. That for me is a red card. Hargy deserved to go on monday nite which the ref never gave(strangly!). Killian Brennan deserved at least a yellow too!

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Both the red cards in the League Cup Final were justified. Forde clearly handled the ball outside the box, so he has to go. Brennan's challenge was wild, dangerous, unnecessary given where the ball was, and could have caused a very bad injury to the opponent if he made contact, so he has to go too. After watching the Shels player hitting Brennan where he did, I believe it was an accidental brush, rather than a deliberate assault. So rightly, no action was taken.

I am not biased towards either side in it.

Hargan should have gone, again. Thats twice in 5 days against Shels he should have gone and didn't - THE REF'S CLEARLY A CHEAT AND OUT TO RIDE US ROCK SOLID! ;).

Biased, or inept? Personally, I'd go for inept. Shels fans spend enough time during games giving out about diabolical refereeing decisions, just like anyone else. Whats with the insane paranoia? Feeling the pressure?!

The two reds in the League Cup Final were unquestionable IMHO. Last night, a red was harsh, but footballs a cruel game. That doesn't mean Ollie was handing him notes before the game with significant monetary value (you'd probably be the first on here going on about how funny it is that we're in financial trouble, yet we still have enough to pay the refs apparently, despite struggling to pay our own players at times this year - at least we have our priorities straight, right?) - it means the referee either bottled it, or deemed it worthy of a red.

Every team gets poor decisions going for and against them, because the refs are poor (and importantly, incosistent). Bohs have had the worst of it by my reckoning of late, by far - but at least they have the common sense to put it down to inpetitude, rather than claiming cheats/bribes/etc in a delusional sense of paranoia. Is this really paranoia coming from the Brandywell, or the beginning of the excuses?

Whinge whinge whinge whinge whinge. Jeeez fellow Derry boys you are doing some gurning. Hargie should have been given a red on Monday and two yellows tonight. Forde handled the ball outside his box, in the speed of things the lino made the correct decision at the time, and the view shared on the terraces at the time was that he deserved to be sent off. Brennan could have broke Heary's legs. It was a definite red card. Jennings tonight was rash and I expected another red card when he made his tackle, if it happened at the Brandywell to Williams I would have been screaming for a red. However he could have stayed on the pitch - THAT'S FOOTBALL. The refs are awful,end of story. There is no bias. To claim there is, shows a real lack of reasoning. Every team in Ireland can claim the refs are bias as they are just awful.

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Originally Posted by lofty9

Whinge whinge whinge whinge whinge. Jeeez fellow Derry boys you are doing some gurning. Hargie should have been given a red on Monday and two yellows tonight. Forde handled the ball outside his box, in the speed of things the lino made the correct decision at the time, and the view shared on the terraces at the time was that he deserved to be sent off. Brennan could have broke Heary's legs. It was a definite red card. Jennings tonight was rash and I expected another red card when he made his tackle, if it happened at the Brandywell to Williams I would have been screaming for a red. However he could have stayed on the pitch - THAT'S FOOTBALL. The refs are awful,end of story. There is no bias. To claim there is, shows a real lack of reasoning. Every team in Ireland can claim the refs are bias as they are just awful.

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Good post. Its football, in Ireland, refs are not exactly brilliant but to say its dublin bias is a load of my horses bollx.