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Will the eL extend the league season for Derry City? Should the league extend the season?
The way i see it they have only 3 free midweeks left - have to re-arrange Sligo game into 1, if they get to FAI Cup semi as expected need to more that league game into another. That just leaves 1 free midweek for a cup replay. I haven't even considered what qualifying for the Uefa Cup group stages would do.
They didn't do it for us last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I booked my flights over the weekend for the last game of the season so i'm hoping that there'll be no extension.
I would be careful doing that last day of the season often moved from friday to sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Ollie would throw a fit if they did.
Well if they didn't do it last year for the most exciting run in in years then they'll hardly do it this year. (I hope):(Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Definitely will not happen. There would be no need for all this congestion if they hadnt had that stupid break in June.
KOH
In the unlikely event that City get to the UEFA Cp Group Stages, the FAI will have to look seriously at the situation.
On the one hand, Derry would have a silly amount of key games to fit in between now and November. Then, bizarrely, the club would have no games at all for the final period of the UEFA group fixtures. We'd then have to look to a series of constant friendlies to keep the team match-fit !
But we'll worry about all of this if and when the opportunity arises !
Ollie would be right to throw a fit if they did. If they are going to extend the season because a team cannot play 2 games per week (a team like Derry, no less, who practically have 2 first teams) over an extended period then everything Roddy says about the minnowism of this league is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
We've refixed the Sligo game for Tuesday 17th OctoberQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
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Originally Posted by Jaime
Derry now have a 2 game per week schedule worked out.
22/9 (A) Shelbourne (Lge) - live on TG4
28/9 (A) PSG UEFA - Live on Setanta
1/10 (H) UCD (FAI QF)
6/10 (H) Bohemians (Lge)
10/10 (H) Drogheda (Lge)
14/10 (A) Longford (Lge)
17/10 (H) Sligo (Lge) OR 19/10 UEFA ?
20/10 (H) Drogheda (Lge)
24/10 (H) Shelbourne (Lge)
27/10 (A) Waterford (Lge) OR FAI CUP SF
2/11 UEFA ?
3/11 (H) Bray (Lge)
6/11 (A) Drogheda (Lge)
10/11 (A) St Pats (Lge)
17/11 (H) Cork (Lge)
23/11 UEFA?
29 or 30/11 UEFA?
3/12 FAI CUP FINAL
13 or 14/12 UEFA?
If Derry make the FAI Cup SF then I see Waterford moving to 1/11 - unless we also make Group Stages of UEFA when Waterford will have to go to 13/11.
Worse case is a CUP SF replay and UEFA group stages which would mean the Cup replay being after the league ends which would still be 2 weeks before the Cup Final. Only problem I could see is the Sligo game if we make group stages - but there is always the chance the league could be over either way which would possibly allow one game to be after the final league match.
Derry will just about be OK for fixtures - the players will deserve their end of season break
if we get past PSG it would be impossible to fit the fixtures in and a lot more than 2 a week, it looks likely it will be one every three days for a good period as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
Is that not an excellent reason to extend it :) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Didn't see that. BTW ye should update your website ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee75
Anyway i think any congestion is to some extent Derry Citys own fault. Obviously playing well in multiple competitions means a lot of games but i think Derrys failure to re-arrnage games earlier is basically their own fault.
Sure Shels game of 30th June has not been played yet & Drogs game in between Uefa Cup games needlessly postponed.
Nothing Roddy Collins says is right - by virtue of the fact that Roddy Collins said it. Regardless of context.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
The Drogs game was apparently off at request of Drogheda. Derry played Limavady that night to keep players match fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Next season I think the FAI should make Euro teams play each other on the weekend of European games - even if it means scheduling them to meet 2 or 3 times in one month.
That way the games can then be rearranaged for early in the season - not later where cup replays and weather postponements come into play. We had a 2 week break to allow the suits to go to the World Cup - Derry v Shels Cork v Drogs would still have got decent crowds if played at this time.
Clubs have some responsibility - so have the league. In the Premiership last weekend many European clubs were down to play each other to ensure there were enough Saturday games - we know who qualifys from Europe - all it needs is a bit of strategy.
You can't extend the season - other clubs simply couldn't afford to keep paying wages and would never agree.
As regards fixtures not enough effort is put into getting games early. For example couldn't the fixtures be devised that on the first weekend 6 games be played on a Friday and a second round of matches on the Monday - only 2 of the 11 play on a Saturday, so while they may not be too happy they would at least be guaranteed a home game on the Monday.
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Originally Posted by refjohn
Drogheda requested the game be postponed SIX days before they both played in Europe. Derry didnt have to agree.
Its ludicrous that games are postponed in the summer.
I agree with you - was just stating the facts. Both teams knew they would be in Europe that week - they should have played it earlier - especially when they already had one game between themselves already needing re-arranged.Quote:
Originally Posted by bohs til i die
It would be wrong to extend the season unless we get into UEFA Cup group stage. All domestic fixtures should be played within the alloted league time- a fixture build up is the price of success. Generally speaking, teams aren't supposed to be winning the treble on a yearly basis, just because we are still in two domestic competitions should not mean the whole league should be held back- winning all three competitions is hard for a reason and to achieve it mean you have to have a team that's good enough, not one that gets to play matches when they want to after the season should be over.
Agree re: playing matches earlier, European teams playing one another, and WC break- common sense would be nice, but sure when has that ever bothered the FAI?
Is this definite? I'll need to take the day off so have you a link to this?:confused:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee75
What would really clog things is if Derry had to play a cup quarter final replay, get through and then end up in a semi final replay.:eek:
I would like a rule that clubs say have to annouce the re-arranged date within 3 days of the postponed fixture. Even if they had to change the game later would at least force to schedule the game.
Yeah, they'd be much better off just losing in the cup quarter final. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
it was in the weekender too....so it must be;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
I totally agree with Pete on this one - the League should set a deadline for when the teams announce a replay - I also think it should be played within 6 weeks of the original date where possible (and I'd say this should be possible in most cases)Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Just for the record Pats played 7 times in 15 days at the end of the 2001 season. Won all 7 too.
Fri - Sun-Tue-Thurs-Sun-Tues-Frid
Agree with Jaime and others who said its ridiculous that so many games were called off
Hope the Cork V Shels game still goes ahead on the given date, about 15 Shels so far have booked flights already!
I know it's only in its 3rd year, but what is the expected minimum income for reaching the group stages has anyone heard?