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Potential seeded team opposition here
I think best teams to get would be Livorno, Chievo, Grasshopers, Brondby, Heerenveen, Blackburn or Newcastle (dispite high seeding could only beat Lithuanians 1-0)
Newcastle would be good draw for Derry as nothing to lose & Newcastle seem poor.
would be a brilliant draw for Derry, real real chance of progressing!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
there are a good few teams in there that derry can beat over two legs
Found this on a site for predicted groups in the draw:
Group 2
Seeded
Panathinaikos
Sparta Praha
Celta
Austria
Litex
Unseeded
M. Haifa
Nancy
Zaporizhya
Sion
Derry
There seems to be a "system" of shifting teams to ensure cannot play team from your own country.
Austria and Litex would be the preferred draws in terms of possible progressionQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
will it be regionalised?
I don't think it's meant to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
From the official UEFA site
Group 2: Seeded Unseeded
Panathinaikos FC (GRE) Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
Hertha BSC Berlin (GER) Legia Warszawa (POL)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)FC Metalurg Zaporizhzhya (UKR)
FK Austria Wien (AUT) Odense BK (DEN)
PFC Litex Lovech (BUL) Derry City FC (IRL)
Some tasty potential ties there Panathinaikos. Hertha BSC Berlin , Paris Saint-Germain all good money spinners
Id fancy Litex if i was a derry fan
never mind the money spinners in the first round, get either the austrian or bulgarian team, hopefully progress and then the money spinner is all around you.
Exactly. Better off getting a beatable side at this stage- make the group stages and take the money-spinners there.
I don't think any of the ties would be easy but certainly Litex or Austria Vienna would be a lot more beatable than PSG.
Does anyone know if they re-draw for the group stages or do the winners of the 5 ties make up the group?
re draw for the group stages
Your all crazy! I want an easy draw here and i want all the top seeds knocked out so there is no money spinners in the group stage! then i want Derry to romp home with 5 wins (or however many!) then crush the remaining minnow plus some weak teams from the Champions league (like FC Thun last year!) in the knock out stages and win the bloody thing! Then we'll have a nice health co-efficient for next year.... and a few years after that! Then do that a few years in a row and everyone in the EL will be getting a place in Europe as long as a) you don't get relegated and b) you don't have Roddy as your manager (which means you default to A)
From the money spinning perspective, Olympiakos have Rivaldo and he could be a crowd puller. Hopefully they get the weakest draw though.
:D Brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by dav_sfc
When will the 1st round ties be played?
Maybe but Olympiakos aren't in Derry's pool so they dan't draw them at this stage.
:D
14th and 28th of next month! Mark it on the calendar!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Derry's possible opponents are here
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UEF...Id=448958.html
Panathinaikos, Hertha Berlin PSG, Austria Wien and Litek Lovech.
Litex won 2-1 at home to Omonia of Cyprus to go through 2-1 on agg. Can be beaten over 2 legs by Derry if they play to their potential.
Hertha won 3-2 on agg but were pushed on the way by the Georgian side Ameri. Would be tough for Derry but you never know.
Austria Wien are in the UEFA cup after losing 4-1 on agg to Benfica in the 3rd qualifying round of the CL. As with Litex could be beaten over 2 legs.
PSG and Panathinaikos are the 2 draws they'd want to avoid if they want any chance of progressing. The only consolation is it would probably be on tv and they'd get a decent crowd at the match.
I'd like to play Austria Vienna. If we got Berlin would it mean a trip to the world cup final ground? Where do PSG play their games?
Parc des PrincesQuote:
Originally Posted by lofty9
Litex Lovech only beat Longford 3-1 on agg. a few years ago in the UEFA Cup, Stephen Kenny would know plenty about them and where they are going.
If I remember correct, it was 2 late goals in the 2nd leg that put them through after a 1-1 in Longford.
Austrians are the best option. Austria "only" ranked 20th in europe.
Would be good chance of big bucks from german tv though if got Hertha,
You cant expect expect to make a fortune in 1 match. However, make the group stages and your elected. So Derry should play the game at the Brandywell if at all possible. Look at what Shels did to get "money". Now they are almost bankrupt. Litex are beatable but just about. A massive step up for Derry. Away goals are essential regardless of who they get. Not long to go now.
This is my attempt to qualify-by-maths. Using good old Berts stats.
So here goes...
Derry = MC[squared]. That was easy... what's all the fuss about!
All seriousness aside now for a minute!
Austria Wien seem to be living on one good season (04/05), Litex are the same but worryingly it was last year! so avoid them I would say!
Hertha clocked up 12.444 points last year too.... a worry!
Panathanikos and PSG going on form are due a good year! (seems like they both take every second year off!) Though they still put a good few points in the bag on the 'off' year.
So mathematics tells me we want Austria Wien!
If you disagree you are wrong ;) The proof of my theory is below!
Code:02/03 03/04 04/05 05/06 06/07 rank07
105 FC Lovech Bul 1.3750 1.3750 2.7835 10.8875 1.3610 17.782
79 Austria Wien Aut 3.3200 0.7010 19.5160 3.0725 0.2305 26.840
60 PSG Fra 12.6125 4.4550 10.7710 3.5680 0.5360 31.942
54 Hertha BSC Ger 15.0170 2.5555 3.4885 12.4440 0.5420 34.047
36 Panathinaikos Gre 17.3650 6.3750 14.0350 7.1000 0.4400 45.315
Anyone listening to the draw? is there a link?
http://www.uefa.com/live/competition...raw_basic.html
Doesnt work for me though
works for me. they have started the first group.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
Our old Friends Levadia Tallin got Newcastle
home to paris
psg it is so
Psg...Easy
Who is it?
Feck.
Little hope.
Possibly the hardest possible team (maybe along with Hertha) but on the plus side nicer than a few days in Sofia!
:ball:s of a draw.
Thats curtains for Derry for sure. Ah well it was good while it lasted. Hopefully they will keep the score respectful anyway. May be even get a draw at home?
Beatable though, so be positive.
Anyone hear who Start got?