Come for the fighting, stay for the football

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07/08/2006, 10:28 PM
el punter

Come for the fighting, stay for the football

Glad to see the Eircom League is proving such a hit with our youth. Particularly the hordes of 12-17 year old Shels and Bohs jersey wearing sorts who were throwing plenty of digs at each other after the match tonight.

Nothing quite like sitting on the bus listening to these lads recount their epic tales of heroism again and again and again at the top of their voices to the public transport users of our city, before playing the footage back on their videophones.

Although my personal favourite is when they begin to rally their posse in to one of their favoured chants in a resplendent cockney baritone.

It'll be a dark day when these freshmen graduate from their academy of gougery and seek to out do each other in gorey bravado.

I'll sign off with this representative snippet of conversation:
Boy A: "Are yiz going to the Cork game next week?"
Boy B: "Will there be a fight?"
07/08/2006, 10:50 PM
sonofstan

I blame bebo - ban the internet I say
07/08/2006, 11:30 PM
nshoop

They were wearing colours?Finally,get them on camara and show to the respective clubs and they can't ignore it or say they're not fans,they'll have to take action
07/08/2006, 11:33 PM
dfx-

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ban the internet I say

No doubt someone will find a button to press to unban it, so I say:

Burn the internet down to the ground to stop both it and any over reactions to said events.
07/08/2006, 11:54 PM
RonnieB

I blame the idiocy of todays youth.
07/08/2006, 11:57 PM
nshoop

You wont hear a whisper about it though,bar this forum or any pics in the herald
08/08/2006, 1:12 AM
Leeza

Come on lads... They aren't real hooligans, just trying to imitate Green Street, or the Hammers fans, or the Milwall lads.

Its harmless craic, at least its good to see more people out to see the EL anyway.

Though I suppose you old granda's need something to moan about, don't you? (I mean, you'd probably make a similar post if there was a lack of youngsters at the game)
08/08/2006, 1:20 AM
Roverstillidie

do we need a thread on trouble that wasnt actually witnessed by the person giving out about it?
08/08/2006, 1:23 AM
aido1895

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Originally Posted by Leeza

Come on lads... They aren't real hooligans, just trying to imitate Green Street, or the Hammers fans, or the Milwall lads.

Its harmless craic, at least its good to see more people out to see the EL anyway.

Though I suppose you old granda's need something to moan about, don't you? (I mean, you'd probably make a similar post if there was a lack of youngsters at the game)

Don't post such ****e when you havent a clue what you are talking about . Fighting inside and outside the ground is harmless craic ? Are you stupid ?
08/08/2006, 7:56 AM
stickyjoe

Shocking scenes on Richmond Road last night and as a neutral follower of the EL for many years now I`m not sure whether I will be back again
08/08/2006, 8:15 AM
the 12 th man

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Originally Posted by Leeza

Come on lads... They aren't real hooligans, just trying to imitate Green Street, or the Hammers fans, or the Milwall lads.

Its harmless craic, at least its good to see more people out to see the EL anyway.

Though I suppose you old granda's need something to moan about, don't you? (I mean, you'd probably make a similar post if there was a lack of youngsters at the game)

You can't be serious.
It gives lie to the old adage "there's no such thing as bad publicity".The Irish papers love this kind of crap to fill up their back pages with.
08/08/2006, 8:24 AM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by stickyjoe

Shocking scenes on Richmond Road last night and as a neutral follower of the EL for many years now I`m not sure whether I will be back again

C'mon. I really don't see how this will stop you going to el matches. It probably happens somewhere in every city after every match.
08/08/2006, 8:30 AM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by stickyjoe

Shocking scenes on Richmond Road last night and as a neutral follower of the EL for many years now I`m not sure whether I will be back again

Thats stupid.
08/08/2006, 8:39 AM
el punter

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Originally Posted by stickyjoe

Shocking scenes on Richmond Road last night and as a neutral follower of the EL for many years now I`m not sure whether I will be back again

It'll take more than idiot kids fighting among themselves to stop me going to a game. But I'd certainly be hand picking the games I'd take my younger relatives to.
08/08/2006, 8:44 AM
SPXcyan

You dont get any of that crap down here as far as I know!! well I am a youth and I for one would hate to be apart of this
08/08/2006, 8:46 AM
stickyjoe

Sorry you are right I`ll be back as soon as possible. My kids can`t wait to get involved in the middle of the random punchups between a few hundred scumbags, riot police and police dogs again on their way out of a game.

I will be back as for some bizarre reason I love the league but I`ll be choosing my games carefully from now on. The amount of scumbags at last nights game from both sides along with the 100-150 that were waiting outside that didn`t get into the ground was hard to believe. Robbing flags, throwing bottles and coins onto the pitch and the pre-arranged fights to me is not football

Rovers v Bohs in 2 weeks time should be great fun...
08/08/2006, 8:49 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by SPXcyan

You dont get any of that crap down here as far as I know!! well I am a youth and I for one would hate to be apart of this

nah you just get stones and bottles thrown at you instead. Bohs have always had an element of knacker support them but it seems to be growing in Shels support too. We'll see if they act on their statement last week
08/08/2006, 8:52 AM
LFC in Exile

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Originally Posted by stickyjoe

My kids can`t wait to get involved in the middle of the random punchups between a few hundred scumbags, riot police and police dogs again on their way out of a game.

A few hundred involved in randon punch-ups? Riot police? Are you sure you're not confusing it with a Panorama programme? :)

Of course hooliganism and fighting cannot be condoned by any footall fan and nor can it diminished. But over-stating it is also wrong and would serve only to attract even more of the little inadequates.
08/08/2006, 8:55 AM
Drumcondra Red

I'm fully aware of our element but the bohs youth were in the ground a good 45 minutes before kick off trying to incite trouble, unveiling a stolen flag and trying to kick down the partition fence, not to mention running towards the Shels support! And just before the gypos go off on one, there was a bohs flag taken by some little creamer, but it was given straight back, to sum up Bohs= Scum!

Don't get me started on the Garda presence inside the ground absolute joke! Second half before they realised its more then just cushty overtime!
08/08/2006, 9:19 AM
Peadar

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

Don't get me started on the Garda presence inside the ground absolute joke! Second half before they realised its more then just cushty overtime!

It's up to your club to request Garda� within the ground.
If your club isn't willing to pay for sufficient resources, then they should be taken to task over any subsequent security breaches.
08/08/2006, 9:41 AM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by Peadar

It's up to your club to request Garda� within the ground.
If your club isn't willing to pay for sufficient resources, then they should be taken to task over any subsequent security breaches.

there were enough cops in the ground - what they didn't do was make any attempt to stop junior BSC kids making their way across the pitch towards the Drumcondra Rd side exit instead of out via the Ballybough end; instead about 10 stewards tried to prevent the tide and predictably failed.

As we were walking out, the two van loads of Riot police were sitting in Richmond road when things were already kicking off outside Fagans.

There was a big enough police presence there to prevent anything - again they seemed not overly concerned with doing their job properly
08/08/2006, 9:51 AM
De Town

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Originally Posted by Leeza

Come on lads... They aren't real hooligans, just trying to imitate Green Street, or the Hammers fans, or the Milwall lads.

Its harmless craic, at least its good to see more people out to see the EL anyway.

Though I suppose you old granda's need something to moan about, don't you? (I mean, you'd probably make a similar post if there was a lack of youngsters at the game)

WUMming of the highest order!
08/08/2006, 10:10 AM
el punter

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Originally Posted by LFC in Exile

A few hundred involved in randon punch-ups? Riot police? Are you sure you're not confusing it with a Panorama programme? :)

Of course hooliganism and fighting cannot be condoned by any footall fan and nor can it diminished. But over-stating it is also wrong and would serve only to attract even more of the little inadequates.

Not a lot wrong with what he said, there was at least a hundred kids involved in it, and there was riot police and police dogs on hand.
08/08/2006, 10:12 AM
el punter

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

I'm fully aware of our element but the bohs youth were in the ground a good 45 minutes before kick off trying to incite trouble, unveiling a stolen flag and trying to kick down the partition fence, not to mention running towards the Shels support! And just before the gypos go off on one, there was a bohs flag taken by some little creamer, but it was given straight back, to sum up Bohs= Scum!

Don't be a child about it by saying that Bohs fans are worse than Shels. That has nothing to do with it, address the problem at your own club and let others address it in theirs. Better still colaborate on the problem.
08/08/2006, 10:18 AM
Drumcondra Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peadar

It's up to your club to request Garda� within the ground.
If your club isn't willing to pay for sufficient resources, then they should be taken to task over any subsequent security breaches.

There was sufficient resources, its not my fault they couldn't be bothered doing their job! When asked to retrieve a stolen flag the answer was "We'll think about it!"
08/08/2006, 10:29 AM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by sonofstan

stop junior BSC kids making their way across the pitch towards the Drumcondra Rd side exit instead of out via the Ballybough end; instead about 10 stewards tried to prevent the tide and predictably failed.

If that's the case the same happened at the league game....and nothing was done.

Nice to see they learn from these things..:rolleyes:
08/08/2006, 12:08 PM
sonofstan

The problem with Tolka is that whether its us and Shels or us and Rovers, most Bohs fans are going to approach the ground from the Drumcondra side and therefore walk past the Home entrance (and, worse, back that way afterwards). The only way to segregate would be to put a barrier across Richmond road and insist that away fans appraoch from Ballybough, which would involve a huge detour for most Bohs fans.
08/08/2006, 12:14 PM
Leeza

All I was saying was that you are overstating a problem only a minority of fans engage in. I've been to games in Dublin so I do know what I'm talking about your arrogant ****.
08/08/2006, 12:28 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by el punter

Don't be a child about it by saying that Bohs fans are worse than Shels. That has nothing to do with it, address the problem at your own club and let others address it in theirs. Better still colaborate on the problem.

This sort of crap has been happening after every home game at Tolka, stupid little gypos re-inacting scenes from their favourite movies! :rolleyes:
08/08/2006, 12:30 PM
De Town

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Originally Posted by Leeza

All I was saying was that you are overstating a problem only a minority of fans engage in. I've been to games in Dublin so I do know what I'm talking about your arrogant ****.

Who are ya replying to there?? :confused:
08/08/2006, 12:43 PM
swano

What age are these little scrotes? It seems like they're about 14-15.

I'd agree with the others who were slating the Gardai. They don't have a clue about policing a football game. The same amount of police that you get at a Rovers vs bohs game could control a championship game between Leeds and Cardiff. They're only out for the money in this country.
08/08/2006, 12:45 PM
Raheny Red

Pic from Shelsweb posted by pizzapie - here is the filth showing off a Reds flag and as was posted on the Shels site, spot the Bohs jersey! :rolleyes:
08/08/2006, 1:07 PM
swano

RR do shels not have a group of little scumbags too? Seems like its not completely one sided.

Spot the "bohs" fan proudly sporting his new manchester united jersey:rolleyes:
08/08/2006, 1:09 PM
Dazzy

more like 7 ofthem swano
08/08/2006, 1:13 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

- here is the filth

Relax on this crap.
08/08/2006, 1:13 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by swano

RR do shels not have a group of little scumbags too? Seems like its not completely one sided.

We do indeed, if you read the Shels you will see me condenming the little ****s!
08/08/2006, 1:36 PM
Soper

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Pic from Shelsweb posted by pizzapie - here is the filth showing off a Reds flag and as was posted on the Shels site, spot the Bohs jersey! :rolleyes:

It's just like a game of spot the Man Utd jerseys eh?
08/08/2006, 2:06 PM
aido1895

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeza

All I was saying was that you are overstating a problem only a minority of fans engage in. I've been to games in Dublin so I do know what I'm talking about your arrogant ****.

No , what you were saying was the violence after the game was only a bit of "harmless craic" . If you are going to make such a stupid statement as your original one then at least have the courage to back it up or withdraw it rather than trying to weazle your way out of it.
08/08/2006, 2:11 PM
sligoman

Excuse him...

...he supports Monaghan ffs. They don't know what fans are, never mind hooligans.
08/08/2006, 2:17 PM
nshoop

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Originally Posted by SPXcyan

You dont get any of that crap down here as far as I know!! well I am a youth and I for one would hate to be apart of this

Ah God be with the days when you'd be on the train coming out of waterford and bricks and stones would come flying through your window,memories:D

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