I know it's happening but personally, I don't think we should. I just dont see why our national league should stop when our own national team aren't even involved and even then I'd have doubts. Opinions?
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I know it's happening but personally, I don't think we should. I just dont see why our national league should stop when our own national team aren't even involved and even then I'd have doubts. Opinions?
I don't think they should but I see the logic behind it. The EL is worried that people would rather stay at home or go to the pub and watch the WC instead of turning up at EL games.
Is that not the case already? :confused: :rolleyes: :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
I don't think it should, maybe they should have thought about it on the other hand that maybe some people might get the buzz for a quick fix of live football during the WC. Though this is very, very unlikely!
Don't see a problem with a md season break if its the same two week every year.
Ye but there would usually be no competition in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
I'm all for a break in the season - especially this season! :(
Seriously, I don't think there's any point when you're up against the World Cup. And if it gives us more football at the end, it can't be bad.
I agree with BohDiddley on this, we shouldn't go up against the World Cup.
Also, you have to look at it from the Players prespective, I'm sure they'll want to watch as much of the Cup as possible, which having a break gives them a chance to catch some of the earlier stages
The eL should not clash with the international calender. When Ireland play any international, there should be no games as there are players being called up to the team - Byrne and Gamble - and all the U21s
I don't see the point of breaking for the first three weeks of the tournament.
Aren't we going to be in competition with the latter stages - the eL resumes on the week ending June 25th and the WC don't end til 9th July i think
eL fans, i'd imagine would like to see the national team in the world cup and to have domestic based players who are good enough to play in the world cup so yeah .... the break is a good thing.
No, for 4 reasons:
- Ireland's World Cup involvement ended 8 months ago.
- By having the league going on during the WC, it will entice more people, I believe, to come and watch live games on the back of the tournament.
- It harms our sides in Europe with European commitments. It's not good for them fitnesswise, to go into Europe in the near future, having not played for 2 weeks.
- This is summer football. It demands that games are played at this time of the year, on EVERY week of it. Every club player and official in the NL, is aware of this situation before the league starts. If you want to take holidays during the summer, then get out of this league, and get involved in Junior Football!!! :mad:
Except in Mayo!!:p :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mypost
I am totally against it coz clubs have to pay the players the 2 weeks wages without getting any football outta them....am gonna miss my fix of live football and go demented.
Actually, it suits me fine cos I'm being sent abroad with
work during the eL break so I wont miss any games :)
if the league is run better then maybe 2 week break would be ok. But i say no, becuase fixtures have been all over the shop so far with some teams not playing in 2 weeks ,while others play 3 or 4 in same period. This break will inevitably lead to more fixture messing and congestion. Also players still need to be paid throughout this break, which is very difficult for most clubs without a gate receipt in those couple of weeks.
Absolutely not. Only if Ireland are competing. Season will grind on now til december again.
We have no "home" game from May 7 til June 21 and am sure other clubs are in the same position. Especially that ourselves and Limerick have 2 back games to play now so players will be idle for nearly 3 weeks and will probably have to play those games in the space of a few days not to mention the inconvenience for the supporters.
You think managers in this day and age are gonna say to the players: "Right lads go off and get ****ed for a fortnight and then come back"? Players will be training during the break. Players are off for the winter. Go on hols then ffs.
KOH
I don't see any need. People who would miss games to watch TV wouldn't go anyway so I don't think there'd be much of a loss in crowds. It would be the perfect opportunity to market the league with everyone talking about football for a month. It needlessly extends the season too.
I voted yes as I think ther should be a mid season break, but I think it should be so every year and not just because of the World Cup.I belive the vast majority of LOI fans will go see their team play whenever they can despite the fact that any other game is on. And if Ireland were playing in such tournaments I don't think anyone would have a problem with brought forward/delayed kick-off times in the League
I think crowds were markedly down during Euro 2004, even though Ireland weren't involved, which is probably why it's coming in. Also, it's to allow players to take a summer holiday. The latter stages of the World Cup will still clash, but you can't have everything - you can't have clubs inactive for a month or five weeks, as wages presumably still have to be paid. Also, there's fewer games in the latter stages (one or two a day), so basically less football to clash.
Suits me too as I'm off to Canada for two weeks on Saturday. Thought I was going to miss the Derry game, but the nice people at Setanta brought it forward a day for the telly too!
When they decided this, they should have also said that whoever had games which were previously postponed, they would have to have them rearranged during these 2 weeks. It would prevent a build up of games and they would still be able to play them at the weekend, meaning no midweek fixtures and still having a half decent crowd attending.
Sure at least you have 2 weeks in Canada to get over Derry beating you in your own back yardQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
But that would defeat the entire purpose of allowing players a break to take holidays - they now couldn't plan anything as they'd have no guarantee of having the time off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Pretty much every LOI footballer has holidays booked for these 2 weeks. No way could they arrange gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Raises an interesting question though - what's their collective fitness going to be like for the first game back?
Full-timers only!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
For teams in European competition should be in heavy training in these two weeks.
I'm sure part-timers can arrange their work holidays for that period if they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
i think there has to be a break during the world cup regardless of weather our international team make it or not, its the biggest sporting event in the world!
i think our club is letting players on holiday for the first week. they're all back training the 2nd week(might have a friendly/practic game in 2nd week). i'd expect this to be much the same in other clubs ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Not to pick on mypost, but I disagree with every point he made:
But people will watch the World Cup anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
During the tournament? People will be watching a load of football. The last thing they'll want is more.Quote:
By having the league going on during the WC, it will entice more people, I believe, to come and watch live games on the back of the tournament.
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It harms our sides in Europe with European commitments. It's not good for them fitnesswise, to go into Europe in the near future, having not played for 2 weeks.
Why? Winter football doesn't prohibit a mid-season break?Quote:
This is summer football. It demands that games are played at this time of the year, on EVERY week of it.
This will help the pitches recover and will let players who have been ignoring niggling injuries get a fortnight off.
As for it clashing with the later stages, there are less games played at that point.
The break is absolute nonsense. The MLS are not even taking one even though the national side are in the WC.
Do winter league countries take a break? Do they ****? Give the pitches a break is a pathetic excuse. The ONLY reason for a break should be if the national team is in the WC or the EC.
Between May 7 til June 21 we have no gate income.
Re Shels games in Europe mypost is dead right. They will have no games after tomorrow til the European games. Thats not ideal preparation.
KOH
Plenty have Christmas breaks of a couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Surely the FAI could have used their pwer and influence to get FIFA to have no games on Friday evenings so there would be no clashes? :rolleyes:
After all they have been so successful with the Premiership that the FA & Sky have arranged a few live tv Friday evening games having already taken over Sunday afternoons ten years ago. :(
Some countries have winter breaks lasting three months. Czech Republic, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Serbia are all examples of countries which have breaks of that length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Having read through some of the recent attendances I was going to suggest something similar. I've changed my mind on the benefits of taking a break but instead of two weeks we should have a 2-3 month break during summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
That would be because of the bad weather e.g. Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Clubs are now idle for nearly 3 weeks for what? Then a rush of games after the break with the season again needlessly stretched out til december.
KOH
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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
That is a total non-starter. Summer football is designed primarily to assist our clubs in Europe. So the idea of a summer break of 2-3 months, smack in the middle of the European campaigns, is simply a no-go area.
Well it comes back to the old debate, doesn't it? Summer soccer has brought us 1,000 people at a top-of-the-table clash in the home ground of the club with the best European record. We're about to take a break for the World Cup because we can't compete with it. We re-organised our whole season because it was deemed that we couldn't compete with the EPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
I know they're not the most popular of organisations on this site, but look at how the GAA are responding to the World Cup - they're not just going into hiding, they're stepping up advertising.
In the spirit of football administration in this country, I say "Let's give it a go/Sure what harm can it do/Isn't it better than doing nothing inanyway?".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky Brennan
Eh the club with the best European record is Rovers. 2-3 month break? Try to bring some sanity into the debate please.......
I wouldnt mind the thousand at last nights game. Midweek games are not known for their attendances.
But why was the break for the 2 weeks when the tournament is starting? Surely the logical thing is break when the tournament gets into the latter, interesting, stage?
If Ireland were in the tournament there should definitely be a break but look at next year. No competing attractions with players and officials sitting idle for 3 weeks and then, again, games needlessly prolonging the season. Look at the weather now this is when the games should be played. By the time november comes there is a good chance of postponements cos of bad weather which will get messy.
There is no justification for a break. Reasons such as players rest and pitches rest are farcical. Players are very well paid and half of the premier are full time pros. Boo hoo for their break they can take one in the winter. The pitches only need a break in the off season.
KOH
I don't know where you get that, they had a couple of good results in the Intertoto and beat that Maltese team over two legs:confused: Anyway Shelbourne's European record is a lot more relevant to the question of whether summer soccer has been worthwhile than any historical results.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
And to clarify, my "2-3 month break" would involve starting the league in August and finishing with the Cup final in May - a radical concept I know.