Shels beat Rovers 3-0 tonight in a "friendly" that had 2 men sent off (O'Halloran and Crawley, both Shels)
What happened? Sure it was only a friendly...
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Shels beat Rovers 3-0 tonight in a "friendly" that had 2 men sent off (O'Halloran and Crawley, both Shels)
What happened? Sure it was only a friendly...
Not the best of starts for Greg O halloran.
I think in Britain bans can be carried out from friendlies. That's shocking. Can they get eL bans for this?
Rovers fans up to their usual antics :rolleyes:
Do you still think Nutsy is a hoop?
Care to elaborate......Quote:
[]Rovers fans up to their usual antics :rolleyes:
Why were the 2 boys sent off?
Only shels could get 2 players sent off in a friendly they win 3-0. :rolleyes:
Is that a compliment Pete ?
3-0 win with 9 men :?
Yes Shock Horror!! Shels have two men sent off ....... the two men in question should go straight to jail!
I'd say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
As Conor said, elaborate please Anthony...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Anto
I don't think so. Wesley Charles got sent off for us in a pre-season friendly against Dublin City around this time last year for punching a player that had racially abused him and he didn't miss a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Not too much of a surprise that Shels are picking up from where they left off, i think this is a clear sign that Shels are back to their old tricks again this season. If you cant play ball, then just try and kick lumps out of the opposition :( :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
And the eircom League is meant to be improving ?? :o
Face, they can try try and try again but as our two teams showed last year if you don't let $hels away with their violent tendancies or alternatively play them off the park they will always come out second best.
Crawley red was a red. O'Halloran could of gotten away with a request to be subbed. A Rovers fan spat on Pat Fenlon. Two of them did. Ollie carted one of them out of the ground. Well done to him for doing it.
Crawley's *attempted* tackle was disgraceful...along with a good few others
If I was the coach of a team 3-0 up in a friendly, I'd be tearing into the players for such a loss of discipline..
Although the ref didn't help in stopping it from boiling over from the start of the second half - he was reffing it like it was a title decider and then letting other things go, so neither set of players knew what they could or couldn't get away with it..
You CANNOT pick-up a ban from a friendly. That's ridiculous. They're not FA/FAI recognised etc fixtures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
If players were able to pick-up a transferable ban from a friendly, then you'd also have to let them transfer existings bans into friendlies - i.e. use them up in that way. You couldn't have one without the other, and neither are desireable.
Friendlies are sanctioned by the FAI? So they are recognised games?
Great performance by Shels in the first half, basically a walk in the park for us. The second half was the worst bit of football I have ever witnessed at a game........:eek:
Yes, there was a lack of discipline by the Shels lads (nothing new there)
Yes, there was a lack of discipline by the Rovers fans (nothing new there)
So nothing much has changed in the life of the eL.......:rolleyes: :D
You were at the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Think SM (who's a dirty scumbag btw) was only banned for a league game because of the seriousness of what he did, violent conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
The el sanctions the friendlies and therefore they are recognised.
Sm???
Just to lighten the mood as it doesn't seem to matter what the score was to some Shels fans when our clubs meet, all Rovers fans are scum etc(don't worry lads, the ref let you keep the ball last night), I never thought I'd hear the sound of "in your Phibsborough slum" being sang to Shels fans :D
JJust goes to show the gulf that exists between the first division and the premier division...
No, but does that change what happened ?? or are you saying that if i was there there wouldn't have been any violent conduct, wouldn't have been any sendings off ??Quote:
Originally Posted by sfc red
An interesting observation, had anyone arrived at half time i'd be asking which team represented which division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
Shels capatilised on early mistakes (schoolboy errors at that) and took their two chances well, the second goal though was a cracker from nothing & Moore deserves credit for the finish, a superb goal! Overall though after the shaky start Rovers looked far from being in a lower division which hopefully will stand to us over the coming season.
On the subject of the second half, rovers kept the ball on the deck & impressed with the better football, the lack of discipline from Shelbourne was in all honesty disgraceful, there could easily have been another couple of red cards doled out with two footed & lunging tackles the order of the day! I can understand Shels wanting a decent run out considering their competitive fixtures start before ours but their overall attitude was far from impressive.
As for Fenlon, the bloke could have a row in a locked room on his own, despite the game being a friendly he repeatedly came 5/or 6 yards onto the pitch whilst the ball was in play & after the red cards barracked the officials every time a rovers player tackled. His behaviour was unbelieveable considering the circumstances!
As for the suggestions that the rovers fans misbehaved well other than a few rants at Fenlon which IMO were deserved considering his & his teams actions nothing else happened, most of the night was spent hiding at the back of the stand from the torrential rain & wind FFS!
Koh
I think he's asking how you can comment on the type of football and say that Shels went around kicking lumps out of the opposition if you weren't at the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Hmmm, yeah you're right, I'd much prefer that then to win 3-0 and be a Premier Division club... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DvB
There's Cork logic for you. I presume he meant that you are commenting on incidents that you didn't see.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Also, its a bit two-faced to talk about how another club's players act in friendlies after the ref at a recent friendly between Limerick and Cork ordered that Gorgeous George be subbed. And if you think this is fanciful Limerick thinking a fellow Cork fan refers to it here: http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=33569
:ball:
I'm happy that as a first division club we played some neat football in bad conditions against a team in a higher division expected to challenge for the league title, i never mentioned satisfaction with the comparitive league standings!Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
What gives Ollie the right to manhandle ANYONE??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
I'm fairly sure a red card Barry Burke got for verbals in a friendly before last season carried through to the first league game.
Went to the game and it wasnt anything special although thought the 2nd goal for Shels was excellent.
Pleased to see Dillo playing so well.
Infairness Rovers have nothing, and Shels did let them back into it in the 2nd half (albeit with 9 players) but Rovers had no body to really run at the shels defence.
However there was some excellent football played by shels in spells throughout the game.
I see Nutsy's behaviour hasnt changed much, he really needs to settle the head..
Was sitting amongst the Rovers fans and they were grand once the realised I wasnt a bohs fan. There was nothing out of the ordinary
In fairness, there is no point in looking into the result. Shels are arguably favourites for the Premier title, Rovers are one of three or four clubs going for the First Division title - I'm no betting man but 3-0 would have sounded like a fairly good guess before kick-off.
I'm happy with how we played and I think getting beaten by a superior side will stand to us. Losing 3-0 to Shels is better experience than beating some junior side 6-0. And, as has been said, the defending for two of the goals was very questionable so the lads will learn from that.
There can't be any arguments about the two red cards. Two very bad tackles and completely out of place in a friendly game. Shels have an appalling disciplinary record and that all stems from Nutsy, who yet again risked a major heart attack last night. Nutsy is a nice bloke (and a Rovers fan, he regularly drinks with us after Rovers matches) but, much like his employer, he loses the head and acts like a madman. He's like a tiny Incredible Hulk. One or two Rovers fans had a go at him but only because of his actions.
CLICK - 5th post ;) :) :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Passive
I'm no betting man but 3-0 would have sounded like a fairly good guess before kick-off.
Never had any time for that ****er tbh. Typical of the obsession from tolka. If the usual antics is giving dogs abuse to fenlon which was deserved then welcome to the real world son. Its called football and guess what sometimes people curse too:rolleyes: Were there any arrests?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anto McC
Outsung too. Pathetic home support. Oily got a fair slagging too.
No complaints about the result. The gulf was clear. Although Crawford should have walked too.
KOH
Couldn't care less if you shout abuse at a manager, but when you spit twice in his face, I think that should be comdemned.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
He's like a tiny Incredible Hulk
I've never laughed so much in my life,
Good Man,
As for the match, 3-0 the least I would have expected against a new rovers team finding there feet, the card's Crawleys was a bad challenge and deserved his red, Greg's wasn't that bad and I think the conditions had a lot to do with it. I still think your number 7 (small bloke) could have gone aswell, even trying to start a fight with Heary during the game (fair play to the other rovers player who got between them and pushed your no. 7 away)
Ok now for Nutsy, as ALL rovers fan's know he's a very passionate man, and he does get fired up fairly easily but I’d rather see the manager of my team giving it loads to the ref from the sideline than abusing one of his own players for getting sent off. (That can and I’m sure will be sorted behind closed door's)
ps a rovers fan mentioned fenlon constantly going onto the pitch during the game, maybe he did ? but did that same rovers fan see Scully constantly going onto the pitch ???? I know i did,
swing's and roundabouts
Shelbourne were an absolute disgrace last night. Crawley is a lowlife toerag and Crawford and Rogers should have gone too. It was a friendly FFS! There's something truly awry with Shels discipline wise. Shocking.
As for the game, in a perverse way I was quite happy at the end. Other than the schoolboy errors that led to the goals we played well. The lads settled down well in the second half and Delaney made 2 fine saves from O'Connor and Shields.
We'll have a much better idea where we are when we play Pats next week. As for the fans, a neutral would never know which team had been relegated and which were favourites for the Premier title. As ever Rovers passion gets misunderstood by the fans of Phibsboroughs 2nd club.
KOH
I never misunderstood your passion. It was one incident were a fan spat on a manager I didn't like too much. Apart from that, rovers support were vocal and out in decent numbers. You can't label all rovers fans with the same brush but looking at it the other way, you can't take the good support to defend the bad either? Not diagreeing with you on rovers good turnout but you have to agree you can't let fans spit on managers and players?
:D nice oneQuote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
think we're gona have lots of fun with this and the phibsboro slums song this season
ps a rovers fan mentioned fenlon constantly going onto the pitch during the game, maybe he did ? but did that same rovers fan see Scully constantly going onto the pitch ???? I know i did,
swing's and roundabouts
I dont doubt that Scully walked onto the pitch during the course of the game, to that end i 'll take your word for it, the main difference though from our viewpoint (physically, not support wise) was Scully certainly didnt require restraining for this offence ala Fenlon & Collins, thats hardly like for like!
Judging on last nights performance the Premier Divison sides are in for an interesting season in dealing with Shelbourne & their lack of discipline.
Koh