The FAI you made another mess of it thread

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13/01/2006, 2:24 PM
thejollyrodger

The FAI you made another mess of it thread

First off best of luck to Stan with the new job but this thread is about letting the FAIlure Association know that they have made another complete fcuk up in seletcing the new manager.

I dont rate stan. he has no experience at the top level and it looks like the FAI are stupidly repeating the same mistake in appointing Kerr. He has no ability to make the tatical switches at key points in the game and we can say good bye to European qualification if he is in charge of it.

Bobby Robson is an old man who isnt the force he once was in football. Its going to be a Dell and rodney routine and it remainds to be seen whether any of the irish players will fully respect Stan and Bob.
13/01/2006, 2:33 PM
Tired&Emotional

To be more specific, is this not down to Delaney? He seems to have too much power in Irish football - a witchhunt or coup d'�tate is the only thing that would budge him! We can all get behind Stan and the team now but would like to see the back of Delaney....Genesis me ar** ....if they were going to pick a title from a book of the Bible it should have been Exodus..
13/01/2006, 3:49 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

it looks like the FAI are stupidly repeating the same mistake in appointing Kerr.

Hardly the same mistake, is it:confused: If anything, it's the exact opposite mistake?

Highly-experienced coach with much success at Irish and Underage International levels. Zero playing experience.

vs.

Highly-experienced player with success at English and Senior International levels. Zero coaching experience.
13/01/2006, 4:01 PM
klein4

Oh my God, hes' Bizarro Kerr, Jerry!!!!!:eek:
13/01/2006, 4:14 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by klein4

Oh my God, hes' Bizarro Kerr, Jerry!!!!!:eek:

It all makes sense now!

Staunton comes from the backwards bizarro world (Louth). Up is Down. Down is Up. He says "Hello" when he leaves, "Good bye" when he arrives. :eek:
13/01/2006, 4:17 PM
Tired&Emotional

Makes it sound like a Ronnie Barker scetch!!
13/01/2006, 4:23 PM
klein4

think of the confusion that "low talker" staunton will cause to the players and FAI......expect the new ireland jersey to come with frilly "pirate" style sleeves!
14/01/2006, 11:55 AM
thejollyrodger

his dundalk accent is hard to understand. The tabloids are going to have a field day when we lose our first match. The vast majority of the football pundits have either slammed the two appointments or have serious reservations about it.

Venebales was our man FFS
14/01/2006, 2:32 PM
FarBeag

Why the Fcuk can�t ye give the guy a chance.He has just being appointed and it�s not his fault because the FAI did not want or could get anyone else. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but all this getting personal about his accent is just childish and pathetic.He is in the same boat as us supporters, he wants to do well for the team and I am sure the team will want to do well for him. I am not too chuffed with the appointment and yes I would rather have Martin O� Neill or another high profile manager but Staunton is the main man now so let him prove himself to us and then we can judge him.I for one will continue to support Ireland and maybe, just maybe it will be easier to get a ticket for our home games now seen that so many on here claim they will never go and watch us play again. Good riddens i say.
14/01/2006, 3:26 PM
thejollyrodger

Stan has never done it with management at international level. The FAIlure assocation gave the media all the unoffical stories about big names being linked with the Ireland managers job and it was all to push kerr off the cliff.

Look who we got. Stan and lawrel have it all to prove.
14/01/2006, 3:51 PM
FarBeag

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

Stan has never done it with management at international level. The FAIlure assocation gave the media all the unoffical stories about big names being linked with the Ireland managers job and it was all to push kerr off the cliff.

Look who we got. Stan and lawrel have it all to prove.

Its quite obvious that you like many others are disappointed with Steve Stauntons appointment but why not give him the benifit of the doubt and see how he gets on.

I know that International management may not be the place to assess the capabilities of someone who has never done it before but that's the position he is in and he will have to take the bull by the horns.I wish the man all the best in the world and i think that he will prove that he is a quick learner.

Its now fairly obvious that the FAI did not like Kerr and he was treated harshly but i personally do not think he was going anywhere positive.Who knows he may have done better if given another chance but its history now. As for the FAI i am sure thay had people in the sight for the management place but were premature in thinking they would actually get them.
14/01/2006, 4:20 PM
Roverstillidie

FarBeag, you have spectacularly managed to miss the point.

Delaney has not picked the best possible man for the job. he has picked (and it was him personally) a strange combination who have never worked together. for 4 years. Stan is clearly a yes man, unlike Kerr. If you think Kerr was sacked because of results after all this you are on a different planet.

delaney is creating a personal fiefdom and calling all the shots, badly. and after some of you bought genesis as the beginning of the end for gombeen stroke men in the FAIlure.

stan is being set up to fail by a power hungy autocrat. why should we happily just go along with these egos destroying irish football? its time for the ole ole brigade to grow some spine.
14/01/2006, 4:32 PM
Fergie's Son

I share your pain Rovers I really do but what can the average punter do? I love the Irish national team. It's the only sport I truly care about (other than Dublin GAA). Eveything else I just watch with emotional detachment.

We can't just ignore the team and it would be petulant to protest now. If Stan screws up our Euro qualification then both he and Delaney should be fired.
14/01/2006, 4:36 PM
Roverstillidie

i disagree. the man is creating 20 years of disaster and people are told 'sure what can you do'? not go to the games, support them from a pub. and tell delaney what you think of him at away games when he doesnt have frontline under instructions to clamp down on dissent.

its time to take a stand. genesis achieved nothing at a great financial cost.
14/01/2006, 4:53 PM
Qwerty

Quote of the week from John Delaney LOL:

"The combination of talents, experience, knowledge, motivational skills and passion which this team brings to the management of the senior squad is utterly compelling.�

http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysing...p?newsid=20720
14/01/2006, 5:00 PM
FarBeag

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Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

FarBeag, you have spectacularly managed to miss the point.

Delaney has not picked the best possible man for the job. he has picked (and it was him personally) a strange combination who have never worked together. for 4 years. Stan is clearly a yes man, unlike Kerr. If you think Kerr was sacked because of results after all this you are on a different planet.

delaney is creating a personal fiefdom and calling all the shots, badly. and after some of you bought genesis as the beginning of the end for gombeen stroke men in the FAIlure.

stan is being set up to fail by a power hungy autocrat. why should we happily just go along with these egos destroying irish football? its time for the ole ole brigade to grow some spine.

I never said that Stan was the best man for the job far from it but he is the man in the job and there is nothing you,i or anyone else can do about that.He is probally a 'yes' man and i agree Kerr was probally not,but if Kerr had got us through to the World Cup he would still be manager.

I don't like Delaney or the FAI but its not going to stop me from traveling all over Europe when the campaign begins later this year.If it stop's you that's your choice.
14/01/2006, 5:08 PM
Roverstillidie

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

I never said that Stan was the best man for the job far from it but he is the man in the job and there is nothing you,i or anyone else can do about that.

first up its not stan per say i have the problem with. its the robson fudge and the leaking of the appointment.

and yes there is something you can do. not give the FAI any more money.
14/01/2006, 5:23 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

his dundalk accent is hard to understand. The tabloids are going to have a field day when we lose our first match. The vast majority of the football pundits have either slammed the two appointments or have serious reservations about it.

Venebales was our man FFS

Venables!! What exactly is he doing at the moment ? A spiv that hasn't been employed for sometime now and you want him to manage the Irish team ? Giles and Houghton backed Staunton's appointment on TV this afternoon but they do have reservations about Robson which I would agree with.

How can you describe the appointment as a failure when a match hasn't been played :confused: ?
14/01/2006, 6:10 PM
Roverstillidie

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

How can you describe the appointment as a failure when a match hasn't been played :confused: ?

i think its the manner in which it happened after what we were led to believe about 'big name' manager.

the incompetence is the problem.
14/01/2006, 7:51 PM
thejollyrodger

A lot of pundits were tippng Venebales. I thought it was a reasonable choice.

This european qualifier campagin could be a disaster and both of the new managers could be out on their ear sooner rather than later.

They certainly dont have the full backing of the press.
14/01/2006, 8:02 PM
Hither green

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

I never said that Stan was the best man for the job far from it but he is the man in the job and there is nothing you,i or anyone else can do about that.

I agree with you there. Was very anti the appointment but it's happened now. I can't believe we're still discussing who the manager should be. It's time to start concentrating on the team selection and what Staunton needs to do.
14/01/2006, 8:46 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

A lot of pundits were tippng Venebales. I thought it was a reasonable choice.

In the Staunton thread way back you posted this about Venables

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Great for some slap stick comedy but thats about it. Stan would be a far better move IMHO if MON wont take the post next autumn

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=382280#post382280
You must have forgotten to tell Delaney of your change of mind.
16/01/2006, 9:25 AM
pete

The only pundits backing Staunton are all his buddies or people who know him & don't want to say bad things about him.

The reality is that this is a 4 year gamble. Have to give Stan 2 years to find his feet & sure at that stage have to give him another 2 to prove himself. It would be unfair (& expensive) to sack him after say a bad first 12 months...