Cost of survival in Premier

From Eleven-a-side.com


Dublin City chairman Ronan Seery admits he learned some valuable lessons during the club’s ill-fated first stint in the Premier Division last year – and insists his club will be better-equipped for life in the top flight should they edge out Shamrock Rovers in Friday night’s play-off second leg.

The Vikings hold a 2-1 advantage from Tuesday night’s first leg at Dalymount Park.

That makes them favourites going into the return at Tolka in front of the live Setanta cameras on Friday night – and Seery is confident his side can hold their own next year if they seal the last remaining spot in the Premier Division.

He told the Irish Daily Star: “We probably went up a year too early last time. I didn’t really know what it took to survive from a financial and marketing point of view.

“But I learned an awful lot from that experience. I know what is needed now to survive in the Premier Division and you are looking at €500,000. I think we can achieve that figure ... Carrolls are on board next year and we have done a deal with Umbro, which is substantial for the club.

“There are a lot of investors out there who are prepared to back us so at this stage promotion means absolutely everything to the club.”

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Originally Posted by redrov2005

Carrolls are on board next year and we have done a deal with Umbro, which is substantial for the club.

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Well we have Tohers and Jako on board with us;) :D.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Well we have Tohers and Jako on board with us;) :D.

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All respect to Jako and Tohers, but we will need much bigger sponsors if we are to survive. We must appoint a commercial manager immediately. His first task IMO would be to bring a major national sponsor, like Beamish, from a few seasons back.
It says on the Champion that we are trying to sell 1000 season tickets before end of January. That is a must, if we are to have money for Sean to bring in players.
I would say we need at least 400,000 euro to survive. It’s a different ball game from the 1st division. If we don’t adapt early, we will be left behind. Sean seems to know what he needs, so it’s a major task for the MC to come up with the cash.

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Originally Posted by Redzer

It says on the Champion that we are trying to sell 1000 season tickets before end of January.

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Saw that alright. I cant see us reaching that figure to be honest, hopefully we will but I very much doubt it.:(.

E500K is a minimum for survival. If Sligo are bringing in full-timers you would have to be looking at E600-E750,000. I'd say that there are three 2005 First Division clubs already on E500K budgets.

Redzer is correct. No offence to Tohers and Jako. With guaranteed TV coverage, you could expect to attract a major sponsor easily.

What is the 500k for - the club or for wages? Big question, no way would 500k for the club be good enough, that would only allow at most 350k for wages and taxes. I think 700k will be the miniumu required and thats without any full time players.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Saw that alright. I cant see us reaching that figure to be honest, hopefully we will but I very much doubt it.:(.

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It's this kind of pessism that must be left at the door when we enter into Premier Division football. Why cant the club sell 1,000 tickets ? Is it not better to be ambitious and try to get as close to this figure as possible. If the club said they wanted to sell only 500 then we'd be saying they should be selling a 1,000. Are you going to be buying a season ticket ? I know I will, becuase at least it's one simple way of doing my part in keeping us in the Premier. Hopefully the club will sell alot more than they would normally do. I hope the pricing structure will give everyone the chance and incentive to be able to buy a season ticket.

In terms of sponsorship, to comment like that on Tohers and Jako is very negative and disrespectful. People need to realise that we are going into the Premier Division on the back of six consecutive seasons in the wilderness of the 1st Division, throughtout which Tohers and Jako put money into the club. These sponsors now deserve any exposure they get next season. It's ok to want National sponsors and i really hope we get a few in, but local sponsors must be appreciated and without them who knows if sligo rovers would be here today.

C.mon people. We're going to be playing Premier Division football next season, so enough of the pessimisim sligoman and let's all do our own bit to ensure we never have to drop back into the graveyard of the first division.

You are right about the pessimism. I will be buying a season ticket and i reckon people should go out and join the 400 Club.

My only gripe with the club hoping to sell 1,000 tickets is that sometimes they need to pitch it more cleverly. They should be marketing and promoting ia night at the Showgrounds as a fun night out with entertainment for all the family. They should try and get some pre match and half time entertainement going be it a penalty competition or a band playing.

It would certainly help the athmosphere ! Any chance that the dull Pa system could be sorted ?

The truth is that the club needs to raise more revenue and the appointment of a commercial manager is essential.

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Originally Posted by nephin

C.mon people. We're going to be playing Premier Division football next season, so enough of the pessimisim sligoman and let's all do our own bit to ensure we never have to drop back into the graveyard of the first division.

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I dont call it pessimisim, I call it reality, a harsh one, but reality all the same.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

I dont call it pessimisim, I call it reality, a harsh one, but reality all the same.

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So your buying a season ticket then??;)

Well ill be trying to get one next year and i havent really before and i'm sure theres plenty like me so you never know..

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Originally Posted by Redzer

It says on the Champion that we are trying to sell 1000 season tickets before end of January

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Where can you buy season tickets???:confused:

They'll send letters to season ticket holders from last season to renew their ticket! You can just ring the club or ask in jako for one either!

If we could do something like Galway did and get the business community in Sligo involved I'm sure we would reach 1000 season tickets

Out of curiousity, does anybody know how much Tohers and Jako give Rovers?

Yeah That's a very good idea and they should sell them in more shops.
Put up a few posters and get on the radio and sell it as a gift idea. They should also have family tickets.

will put a query in on this and report back when i get some info.

The club have been fined E500 for the ''ignition of a flare'' after the athlone game!:mad: this is an absolute disgrace! it was thrown in front of the shed, after the final whistle and lasted for about 10seconds! its a disgrace being fined so much for a little flare. who reports things like this to the fai? it couldnt have been the Ref, linesmen or 4th official coz they would have been in their dressing room by then! is it the ref's assesor? such dry c**ts whoever it was!:mad:
also Kaps has been suspended for 1 game after reaching 4 penalty points....if hes playin next year??

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Originally Posted by feo123

The club have been fined E500 for the ''ignition of a flare'' after the athlone game!:mad: this is an absolute disgrace! it was thrown in front of the shed, after the final whistle and lasted for about 10seconds! its a disgrace being fined so much for a little flare. who reports things like this to the fai? it couldnt have been the Ref, linesmen or 4th official coz they would have been in their dressing room by then! is it the ref's assesor? such dry c**ts whoever it was!:mad:
also Kaps has been suspended for 1 game after reaching 4 penalty points....if hes playin next year??

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What was thrown in front of the shed was a smoke bomb, which I don’t think was a problem. But during the game there were a number of fireworks let off, mainly from behind the shed area. But, I would imagine what the club was fined for, was the firework, which some bo**ox ignited ON the pitch during the presentation of the cup. This stupid moron could have injured kids or indeed adults with his “celebration”.
If I had seen who did this I would have no hesitation of reporting him. If he had to pay the 500 fine it would serve him right.
As for the “dry c**t” who reported it, it was probably any number of FAI officials who were there as observers on the night. One in particular, kept walking around the ground all night.

I heard Kaps is coming back next season. Some member of his family was seriously ill, that was why he went home.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Saw that alright. I cant see us reaching that figure to be honest, hopefully we will but I very much doubt it.:(.

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what facts and figures have you used to draw this conclusion?

in the weekender today SC said €12000 p/w should be enuff to get us to the level he wants for nest season. considering we will be gettin around 1500 higher attendances than dublin city i think this goal will be attainable. obviously seery will have better friends in high places to help him out but i think with our 400 club, the supporters trust&the backing of the business community in sligo we will find €12000 somewhere

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Originally Posted by Red4Eva

what facts and figures have you used to draw this conclusion?

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Eh, it's called my own opinion:rolleyes:.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Eh, it's called my own opinion:rolleyes:.

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i got that but what are you basing this opinion on is my question. u obviously know more about the finances of sligo rovers than i do

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Originally Posted by Red4Eva

i got that but what are you basing this opinion on is my question. u obviously know more about the finances of sligo rovers than i do

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No, I know nothing about the club's finances, all I was saying is that 1,000 seems like a lot to expect to sell, it's just me that's thinking this, not based on anything, just my opinion!

good luck2 the bitoffred next season

According to elevenaside.com Chris Breen is quoted as saying:

"I met with Sligo and they made me an offer. They talked to me about money and about their whole set up. They’re going full-time next season and will have 14 full-time players. Of course it was tempting ... but I also met with the Harps board and they are keen for me to stay and we are now discussing new terms."

As far as I know we had 10 full-timers last season didn't we, 14 full-timers suggests that Sean is going to have a decent budget to ensure our survival in the Premier Division next season.

With an extra bit of money we could tempt him to come to us....he is a quality player!