Stephen Elliot

What a strike - goal of the season contender.

cant wait to see it on motd. move over robbie we now have a proper striker

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Originally Posted by totalfootball

This comment shows how irrational people can be when they want to criticise. For some reason, people seem addicted to making absurd criticisms of Keane. It's currently fashionable to slate Keane, and like most fashions, there isn't much reasoning behind it.

Keane, by the way, has scored as many Premiership goals as Elliott, despite only having started 2 games whereas as Elliott has started 8 games. Lets not let reality get in the way though, eh.

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Damned straight. People forget that we don't have a raft of quality alternatives. If we were like Brazil and had lots to chose from, fair enough.

Got a text saying it was a cracker but haven't seen it yet. Liam Lawrence also scored. Given was supposed to have made a superb save from Elliott and he also hit the bar with a lob.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Got a text saying it was a cracker but haven't seen it yet. Liam Lawrence also scored. Given was supposed to have made a superb save from Elliott and he also hit the bar with a lob.

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Lawrences goal was a cracker as well altho shay should've got to it .ball skimmed under his hand- the chip/half volley from elliot was superb,took a age to drop and then slammed the crossbar-Very impressed with stephen today..some great running off the ball,caused boumsong untold problems...good to see some genuine talent emerge to challenge keane,might make him buck up his ideas a bit

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Originally Posted by redgav

Lawrences goal was a cracker as well altho shay should've got to it

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Didn't see Elliot's goal but Given could not have stopped Lawerence's goal. It was hit with pace and strength and Given or Newcastle wasn't expecting a shot at all cos it came from nothing

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Didn't see Elliot's goal but Given could not have stopped Lawerence's goal. It was hit with pace and strength and Given or Newcastle wasn't expecting a shot at all cos it came from nothing

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:rolleyes:
Watch the bloody thing again will ya , the ball skimmed under his hand

Just seen the goals and Given probably should have got Lawrences shot. It did hit a Newcastle players arm on the way though which brought it further towards the post.

I didn't see any of the Sunderland goals but clearly if Given is conceding 2 goals to Sunderland he is getting sloppy & needs competition for international place.

i saw the goal on TV3, it was awesome.

As for Robbie, he isnt on the bench for nothing. At least with Elliott he doesnt think he is a prima donna and we dont have to watch any stupid celebrations.

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Originally Posted by pete

I didn't see any of the Sunderland goals but clearly if Given is conceding 2 goals to Sunderland he is getting sloppy & needs competition for international place.

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Glad to see that not seeing the goals doesn't stop you from putting forth an opinion. You're right, how could a goalkeeper behind the world-class Newcastle back 4 not be culpable for conceding goals! Given should retire from international football now!!

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

Glad to see that not seeing the goals doesn't stop you from putting forth an opinion. You're right, how could a goalkeeper behind the world-class Newcastle back 4 not be culpable for conceding goals! Given should retire from international football now!!

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Good to see some agreement here for a change.

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Originally Posted by pete

I didn't see any of the Sunderland goals but clearly if Given is conceding 2 goals to Sunderland he is getting sloppy & needs competition for international place.

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You taking the ****? Who, at the moment, can replace Given? Paddy Kenny? Nick Colgan?:confused: Devine I suppose?:rolleyes:

While it may be too early to hail Elliot as the new messiah his form may provide Robbie with the long overdue kick in the hole he needs. Despite recent displays Robbie is still brimming with talent and I hope this is the spur (excuse the pun) that will bring him back to his best in the green jersey.

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Originally Posted by pete

I didn't see any of the Sunderland goals but clearly if Given is conceding 2 goals to Sunderland he is getting sloppy & needs competition for international place.

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hello ? are you talking about the same given to performed heroics for ireland at international level ? he may be letting goals in at newscastle but thats more to do with the fact that newcastle are crap at defending

Jesus, sarcasm detectors don't work on Sunday nights?

It was a nice goal and he was unlucky with the lob. Sunderland are very poor though so hes got one year in the Prem then it's back to the Championship. Might be good for him. Light up the Championship for a half season next year and then get a transfer to a decent team.

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

It was a nice goal and he was unlucky with the lob. Sunderland are very poor though so hes got one year in the Prem then it's back to the Championship. Might be good for him. Light up the Championship for a half season next year and then get a transfer to a decent team.

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Sunderland in the second half were the best team, from what I've saw of him in the last few games, he will not be going back to the Championship.

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Originally Posted by redgav

What a strike - goal of the season contender.

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It was even better than his goal against Man Yoo.
He was almost bundled over, but unlike the superstars from the continent, he didn't crash to the ground, rolling around like he was on fire, he regained his composure and struck a cracker!

I'm delighted for him because of the honesty he showed in his performances for Ireland. That gets my respect everytime.

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Originally Posted by Peadar

He was almost bundled over, but unlike the superstars from the continent, he didn't crash to the ground, rolling around like he was on fire, he regained his composure and struck a cracker!

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Or superstars from Tallaght.

Elliott is class. He'll always get goals, and goals of all types too.

will he though?

is he a great goal scorer or a scorer of great goals?

More the former I'd say Paul. He can poach ugly goals too.

just put him into my fantasy football team, I have a good feeling about him :)

He might score some goals like that but the proformance was not really good by him. He has not really proved himself yet for Ireland as he does be poor for us.

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

He has not really proved himself yet for Ireland as he does be poor for us.

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he has always performed for us imo, 1st half against the Faroes excluded. :)

^ When has he then.

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

^ When has he then.

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Debut against Croatia (played on the right of a 4-3-3). Our best player after Kavanagh against China. Really impressed coming on against Italy. Superb 2nd half in the Faroes. Best outfield player against Cyprus. Has he played any more?

You should not include Friendly games, in that case Kerr would be still manager.

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

You should not include Friendly games, in that case Kerr would be still manager.

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"He has not really proved himself yet for Ireland as he does be poor for us."

Read that 10 times over and get back to me.

eirebhoy he has a point though, whats the point for example in us playing friendlies or some crap cup in the summer when we should be playing in the world cup, and because certain said players didnt get us there????

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

eirebhoy he has a point though, whats the point for example in us playing friendlies or some crap cup in the summer when we should be playing in the world cup, and because certain said players didnt get us there????

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I don't see where you're coming from at all mate. :) His point is that Elliott has been poor for Ireland. He certainly has not.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

He certainly has not.

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In my opinion, he has played well when few others have.
He should have started ahead of Robbie Keane in the last 3 qualifiers.

Thierry Henry didn't really impress against Ireland in Dublin, yet he struck a cracker which proved to be the difference between the sides. I'd have settled for a poor performance from Elliot if he had scored a goal like either of his last two for Sunderland.

Keep it up Stephen. You're one bright light in the gloom of Irish International football at the moment.

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I don't see where you're coming from at all mate.

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i was taking the side, or making the point that its no biggie someone performing in friendlies, i mean ireland are the world cup holders of friendlies. so indirectly when we are playing these friendlies in the summer or a cup thingie in the summer because our players, such as elliot only really performed in the friendlies and did nothing in the proper i.e. competitive matches where it mattered. having said that elliot was the only player that played at all in cyprus.

i think that clears it up a small bit! :)

Elliott played friendlies against Croatia, China & a bit of the game against Italy & impressed to a certain extent.

Elliott played competitive games against Faroes, Cyprus & Switzerland and impressed, first half vs Faroes excepted.

So his competitive performances have been at least as good if not better than his friendly performances.

And anyway, why shouldn't you judge a player's performance in a friendly if that's all you have? Performing well in friendlies earns you a shot at the real thing & as far as I'm concerned Elliott has done more than enough to be considered as a starter for Ireland.

I've said everything I have to say about Elliott on previous posts. Paul, I know you read many of them & you'll know I've been consistent in lauding his goalscoring instincts. In fact my first ever post on foot.ie was about Elliott.

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Originally Posted by Peadar

It was even better than his goal against Man Yoo.
He was almost bundled over, but unlike the superstars from the continent, he didn't crash to the ground, rolling around like he was on fire, he regained his composure and struck a cracker!

I'm delighted for him because of the honesty he showed in his performances for Ireland. That gets my respect everytime.

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pretty much what I was thinkin at the time- class goal ,honest performance ,no drama

hope he doesn't let goals like these go to his head like some other high profile archers ....leave the white boots and podgy cartwheels to others , do what he does best ...keane has class about him when he try's ,good to know theres another striker who can score against the top teams too

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Paul, I know you read many of them & you'll know I've been consistent in lauding his goalscoring instincts

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Many of them!!! I have read them all stuts, its what passes the day at work for me ;)

Point taken on proving yourself in friendlies to make it into the competitive games, but you have to see the side i am taking also.

Elliot didnt do much against switzerland in fairness, he held the ball up well in cyprus and took his goal brilliantly an example of a poacher in my opinion ( as you pointed out), but i dont beleive he played great against faroes bar winning the penalty. He did however play very well against italy when he came on and did well against china, but these are only friendlies.

anyhow time will tell, i hope it goes the way of your beliefs however :)