Reports that he has been killed in a car crash in Russia
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Reports that he has been killed in a car crash in Russia
http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/1022/russia.html
Weird. I was reading a report earlier today that an Irish citizen was killed in a car crash in Moscow. Didn't think it was anyone of note. I wonder what he was doing there.:confused:
On a business trip according to Tv3Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Tributes have begun pouring in from across the political spectrum, following the news of Liam Lawlor's death.
In Killarney, where the Fianna Fáil party is holding its Árd Fheis, the Taoiseach has said he's shocked by the news.
The two men entered Dáil Eireann on the same day in 1977.
In a statement, the Taoiseach extended his sympathies to Liam Lawlor’s wife Hazel, his children and his extended family.
He described Mr Lawlor as an engaging, witty and larger than life character.
The Taoiseach said Mr Lawlor was “never afraid to express his trenchant views”.
Fianna Fáil TD John Curran - who succeeded Liam Lawlor in the newly-created constituency of Dublin Mid-West - says he was still a popular person in the area:
“Liam was involved in politics for a long time - he has had a colourful career,” he said.
“Quite honestly, his name still comes up at doorsteps and there are constituents of mine that Liam has worked for and they would acknowledge that to this very day,” he added.
The Tánaiste Mary Harney expressed her regret at the death of Liam Lawlor.
In a statement she said that to lose his life in an accident so far from home, represents a terrible tragedy for his family and friends.
The Minister for Health has extended her sincere sympathy to Mr Lawlor's widow Hazel and their children.
The Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny has also expressed his deepest sympathy to Liam Lawlor's family.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/10/22/story226703.html
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Originally Posted by sligoman
Apparently he had a 20-year-old Ukrainian girl in the back seat of a taxi. The tabloids are saying she was a hooker. Swerved to avoid a pedestrian at 1:00am and hit a street lamp. Taxi driver died later.
Apparently all 20 year old Ukrainian girls in taxi's in Moscow are hookers. She might very well have been a translator :rolleyes: What happened to her by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Very seriously injured last I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
Don't they speak Ukrainian in the Ukraine? Might want a Russian translator.;) (Even if I'd imagine most would have fluent Russian there anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
Anyway, just reporting what the papers said. Could have been a shared taxi, could have been anything.
Most Ukrainians would have Russian as a second language as a result of occupation by the Russians under the guise of the USSR from 1917 to 1991.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
In my experience of having travelled to various parts of Eastern Europe with football sides, translators can be as young as 16 or 17, so a 20 year old would not be unusual.
According to the Observer she was only slightly injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Moscow Police described Her also as a Hooker.
Could be right, I read this on Errortel:rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Well Moscow Police are susceptible to bribes, because they do not receive their salary on time, so if you paid them enough money they would describe the victim has anything you want them to.
It was in a redlight district too. Police have interviewed the girl and they say she appears to be a prostitute. Given the rather unsavoury nature of Mr. Lawlor I would be far from surprised to find out she was a postitute. A good 40% of the Ukraine are ethnically Russian and speak it as a first language as far as I know, that being the Eastern half but I somehow doubt she was a translator. I must say I find the tributes laughable. I'm not saying Lawlor was an absolute demon, but he has been made sound somewhat of an upstanding citizen, particularly by the Taoiseach.
Typical, not many speak ill of the dead. When you're living, you're the worst, but at a funeral etc "Ah, he was a great man.....blah blah :D :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
I know of course KT (or do you prefer GT now?:confused: ), but you've got to draw the line somewhere, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
Very few Irish people speak ill of the dead, cause very few of us speak well of the living......
My sympathy goes out to his wife and kids who had to put up with this cowboy who swindled the state out of millions and done Tomas McGiolla, one of the best and hard working TD's in Dail Eireann out of his seat. The returning officer that day was a well known Lawlor aquintance.
Greedy, corrupt and aloof, Lawlor is a microcosm of a self centred society that is existent in Ireland that is well and truly rotten to the core.
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Originally Posted by Green Tribe
I agree KT, or should I say GT, He was no different to members of any organised crime gang, pocketing massive amounts of money with his dodgy deals which his TD status was able to give him the power to do so, and then giving the courts and enquirys the middle finger.
He represented everything thats rotten about Irish politics and showed perfectly why Ireland was held back by corrupt politicains who have lined their own pockets for so long.
I'm sorry to see the man has died, but at the end of the day the man wasn't a fine example, he was no different to any other crime boss.
Except his activities were 'legalised'.Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
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Originally Posted by Partizan
;) :eek:
The Sindo reported that she was a teenager from the Ukraine, but rte are now reporting that she was an interpreter.
I feel sorry for his family though as the press arent being too sympathic to them with alot of hearsay and speculation. Interestingly model Glenda Gleeson is his niece, wouldnt have suspected that!
RTE confirmed that the Ukranian woman was employed as an interpreter in Prague which gets back to a point I made in my original posting. Nothing surprising about someone that age bracket being employed as a translator, I have experienced working with translators of similar age in other Eastern European countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
I went to school with his nephew. Not a nice lad to say the least. I have to hold my hand up and say I was wrong if it is indeed an interpreter. I hope it was for the sake of his family. Desperately shocking of the papers I have to say. They went at it so heavily this morning that it was a prostitute and a red light district. I gave them some credit and assumed they had to be right to do that the morning after he died. Hmmmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
It is the main route to the city centre from Moscow's main international airport and is quite long. There is bound to be a red light district somewhere along it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
They appear to have had a very comfortable lifestyle by 'putting up' with him and no doubt will continue to do so after his demise. I cannot see Mrs.L and children saying 'Jeez, most of this was probably got illegally, so perhaps we should give it back to the Govt.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
I find it hard to believe that his wife and family did not know or suspect or at least did not question if his activities were legal, particularly when the tribunal was convened and he behaved in the way he did.
Sorry no sympathy from me. One 'cute hoor' less as far AFAIAC.
I absolutely believe the "diplomatic" assurances that the passenger in the car was a translator.
There's no doubt in my mind that she's a cunning linguist.
adam
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Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
Can't she be both?
I agree with a totally, has to be said that the guy have nothing short of a crook and offered nothing to the electorate with all his shady dealings. The guy was typical of everything that is wrong with FF, pity is there are plenty more like him in that party and very few left in it that you could trust. It might have been a good party at one stage but most people you talk to will all agree that FF has its fair share of gangsters. Lawlor was just one of them that got caught, and even after getting caught managed to cost the state millions for months afterwards. R.I.?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
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Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Just shows you that a paper can't refuse the ink thats being printed on it.
I'm surprised that so many papers(non tabloids) bought this pup of a story.
Sad loss for FF - he, along with CJH, represented the true soul of the party.
Feel sorry for the family as it appears it was a translator. RTE were even running with the story, and some FF head throwing in that the (at the time thought to be) hooker could've been for the driver. :rolleyes:
Would say a lot of corrupt feckers will not be sad for him, if he spilled the beans he would hang a lot of feckers, wonder if he left a little black book of names/dodgy dealings to be released if anything happened to him?
Now that could have interesting consequences....Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinharp
The papers are disgraceful for starting that rumour. I see the Star have appologised. I bet it was that rag that started it.
Lawlor was a cowboy but its a terrible way to go.
Maybe he's not really dead at all.....and this is all a majorly elaborate hoax so his financial woes are over. What odds he's living in Brazil...;) :D :D
Quality:D
You probably said it in jest, but it's not something I'd discount. He was well connected over there by all accounts, and it's very hard to be connected in Russia without being connected to the mob; who know the right people to bribe and threaten. If I wanted to leave my troubles behind, Russia's where I'd do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
adam
Only a little jest there Adam, part of me believes it totally possible...Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
By "soul" you mean f**kin' gangsters yes ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
FF are a shower of corrupt b*stards, always have been, always will be. Still the farmers will always vote them in.:rolleyes:
Indo once again has proven it is no longer a broadsheet and is a pure tabloid. That paper is getting worse by the day. Is the editor new? I heard they got the lad from the Star or Sun?