Odds on Brady slashed

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20/10/2005, 11:45 AM
silentbob

Odds on Brady slashed

Taken from football365.com

Bookmakers have slashed the odds on Liam Brady replacing Brian Kerr as Republic of Ireland boss.

Former Republic star Brady has moved in from 33/1 to 7/1 with Ladbrokes and is now their joint third favourite with recently-retired former skipper Roy Keane and Under-21 boss Don Givens.

The one time Arsenal midfielder and Celtic boss has become a serious candidate for the post after a number of bets were taken on his appointment in Dublin and Glasgow.

Ladbrokes spokesman Robin Hutchison said: "We've seen hundreds of euro being placed for him on the internet and in our Dublin shops this morning, and we've been doing a brisk trade in the east end of Glasgow too.

"The Football Association of Ireland are in no rush seeing as they have no game until February, but given the fact they are short of cash, Brady may be the ideal appointment."

Another former Celtic manager, Martin O'Neill, remains 9/4 favourite to land the job with the bookmakers.

Do these people know something we dont?
20/10/2005, 11:47 AM
gustavo

they must have seen something in Don Givens that no one has ever seen ie a semblance of managerial abillty
20/10/2005, 11:49 AM
silentbob

He is in as close as 9/2 on paddypower at the moment!!!!
20/10/2005, 11:51 AM
onenilgameover

good god if givens got it...there would be war...cant see that happenin though...
20/10/2005, 12:01 PM
as_i_say

what might happen is that they get someone like brady appointed as caretaker until around the time of the next qualifier, with a view to getting someone full time then-would bookies pay out if that was the case?
20/10/2005, 12:27 PM
pete

Are these odds for next manager or next permanent manager.

Does Don Givens have dirt on someone in the FAI? How is he still employed?
20/10/2005, 12:30 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

Does Don Givens have dirt on someone in the FAI? How is he still employed?

Must have. Sure Kerr was judged on his qualifications/results and on the rankings/seedings. I don't know if there are rankings for the U-21s, and there aren't any rankings at the moment, so the logical thing to do is judge Givens by his results and qualifications.

Qualified tournaments - none.

Results - Better than Albania, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Cyprus and Luxembourg.
20/10/2005, 1:08 PM
silentbob

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

Are these odds for next manager or next permanent manager.

?

next permanent manager
20/10/2005, 1:14 PM
thejollyrodger

what i want to know is, is delaney going down to the bookies with a couple of grand putting cash on the man he is going to pick :D:D:D:D
20/10/2005, 1:17 PM
silentbob

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

what i want to know is, is delaney going down to the bookies with a couple of grand putting cash on the man he is going to pick :

Could be doing that to make up on the money the fai lost out on by not qualifying for the world cup:D :D
20/10/2005, 1:30 PM
pete

If the FAI wanted to make simialr cash to what they'd get from WC quialification Delaney would have to appoint a long odd candidate like Bertie :D

€1000 @ 500/1
20/10/2005, 1:48 PM
Dodge

What on odds on them realising they're up a creek and begging kerr to take the job again? :)
20/10/2005, 1:56 PM
Noelys Guitar

What a great idea! But seriously how the "duck" does Givens have ANY job with the FAI? And Brady hasn't a hope of been appointed. Even in the short term. The bookies love all the someone placed 50 quid on Brady in East Lothian. Davies in the Telegraph suggested Brady as the manager a few days ago and so this must be fuelling the bets. If Delaney thought Troussier should have gotten the job the last time then why not this time?That is where to get some value. He will try to get a big name first like MON or even O"Leary(villa takeover hes out of a job). For me if Australia don't beat Uruguay then the FAI should try for Hiddink. Excellent, proven coach.
20/10/2005, 1:58 PM
Noelys Guitar

And what happened to Kerrs "unnamed" champions league team coming in to whisk him off?
20/10/2005, 2:52 PM
thejollyrodger

who ? FC Thun :D

Brady will never take the post, he knows he is great at talking but when it comes to management he will be found wanting. The same applies to Giles, he couldnt manage a under 7's team :D
20/10/2005, 2:57 PM
geysir

Strikes me that opening up a book on the next manager is a bookmaker's dream.
20/10/2005, 4:00 PM
Cowboy

Brady said after the Swiss game that he was not interested. Has he changed his mind or are the bookies just reflecting betting patterns?
20/10/2005, 4:16 PM
Schumi

Or trying to create some hype?
20/10/2005, 4:19 PM
WeAreRovers

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

who ? FC Thun :D

Brady will never take the post, he knows he is great at talking but when it comes to management he will be found wanting. The same applies to Giles, he couldnt manage a under 7's team :D

Brady is doing a fantastic job as Arsenal's under-age supremo and wouldn't touch a badly paid part-time crappy job from the FAI.

Giles was a half-decent manager in his time - did very well at West Brom and won the cup for us in 78.

KOH
20/10/2005, 4:21 PM
NeilMcD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy

Brady said after the Swiss game that he was not interested. Has he changed his mind or are the bookies just reflecting betting patterns?

Is it not the job of Bookmakers to reflect betting patterns and nothing else. If a load of money goes on a particular person it drives down the odds. If they hear a rumour they can aticipate it and drive them down themselves to protext themselves. Bookmakers are very wary of next managers bet as there is a lot of room for them to be burnt if bets are put on just before the manager is announced.
20/10/2005, 5:29 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Brady is doing a fantastic job as Arsenal's under-age supremo and wouldn't touch a badly paid part-time crappy job from the FAI.

Fantastic job? What does his job consist of? He's certainly not an underage manager. He does a bit of scouting, I know that.
20/10/2005, 8:00 PM
pete

Interesting Don Givens is way down the list @ 40/1 - shows how sh!te his record is that not considered a candidate. If any other International team vacancy came up the U21 manager would be automatically amoung the the probably candidates.
20/10/2005, 8:44 PM
Superhoops

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Fantastic job? What does his job consist of? He's certainly not an underage manager. He does a bit of scouting, I know that.

He does more than a bit of scouting. He is Head of Youth Development and Academy Director and is well respected by Wenger.
20/10/2005, 11:04 PM
TonyD

Always had a lot of time for Brady. Super player and a good analyst, (the only one to put manners on Dunphy at times) However his attitude to Brian Kerr has really disappointed me. Very quick to slag him off, and seemingly has all the answers, but then doesn't have the courage of his convictions to actually go for the job. As Kerr correctly pointed out on the Late Late Show, Brady's own managerial record isn't exactly covered in glory.
21/10/2005, 8:43 AM
macdermesser

Quote:

Originally Posted by geysir

Strikes me that opening up a book on the next manager is a bookmaker's dream.

exactly .. it's the bookies messing. Slashing odds on someone, creates hype .. people are convinced there must be something in the story and place money without thinking.

I, and I'm sure many other here was lucky to get Kerr at 16/1 last time round. An obvious candidate will emerge, and Brady is certainly not one of them.
21/10/2005, 10:29 AM
Stuttgart88

Today's Telegraph has an interesting photo of Brady.

Click on:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai...SUMMARY&grid=E

At the bottom of this page there's a column called Inside View. Within that "Who will replace Brian Kerr" there's a series of photos of candidates to replace Kerr. The last one is Brady wearing an FAI tracksuit with the new logo (so obviously it's from September 1994 onwards).

Can anyone tell me what the occasion was?
21/10/2005, 11:30 AM
Jerry The Saint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Can anyone tell me what the occasion was?

Champion Sports Sale - 20% off all tracksuit tops. :D
21/10/2005, 12:14 PM
WeAreRovers

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Fantastic job? What does his job consist of? He's certainly not an underage manager. He does a bit of scouting, I know that.

He's Head of Youth Development. A wee bit more than "underage manager" I would have thought.

The point remains the same though - the Ireland job is part-time, badly-paid, with crappy players and terrible bosses etc etc. Nobody in their right mind would take it. Which means Roddy's a shoe-in. :D

KOH
21/10/2005, 5:06 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

He's Head of Youth Development. A wee bit more than "underage manager" I would have thought.

The point remains the same though - the Ireland job is part-time, badly-paid, with crappy players and terrible bosses etc etc. Nobody in their right mind would take it. Which means Roddy's a shoe-in. :D

KOH

The reason I asked you what his job was wondering how you knew he was doing a fantastic job.

Interesting question Stuts.
21/10/2005, 5:28 PM
NeilMcD

It looks to me that it is at Tolka Park. I remember last year there was a Johnny Giles select against some Sky one team or something like that, and it was played at Tolka Park. Its a recent enough pic as its the new FAI Logo. If I was a betting man I woudl go for a

Johnny Giles Select V the Keith Duffy Select or something along those lines.
21/10/2005, 5:34 PM
NeilMcD

http://www.showbizireland.com/news/a...-duffy13.shtml

There you go there is a few pics from it, and it confirms Brady was wearing that tracksuit that day.