Just wondering who people think will win
the race to be relegated next season?
Dublin City or Sligo?
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Just wondering who people think will win
the race to be relegated next season?
Dublin City or Sligo?
:confused: They have to be promoted first. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
Win the race to be relegated next season
Is just a better way of saying win promotion!
Same thing really
I know what your saying but I wouldn't have thought that either of them have secured promotion yet.Cobh are close,only a couple of points behind them and if either of them were to go on a bad run there is about 4 teams who could catch them.Even us! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
Yeah coz Rovers are doing a great job of teaching UCD and Bray a lesson on life in the top flight... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
Hate to go over old ground but Rovers with our 8pts
would be ahead of all 3 newly promoted sides
Who would occupy 3 of the bottom 5 places!
And yet UCD and Bray go on about how well they
are doing!
Ooooh sh!t, I forgot about the points deduction...my bad :oQuote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
I take it back hoops1.
oh il be here until about 12 tonight!
it was either that or get off early and watch Longford!
I chose to work wasnt much of a choice really!
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Originally Posted by hoops1
!!!!! GET YOUR A RSE TO DALYMOUNT!!!!!
i think waterford will get da automatic place & harps beat dublin city in play off so this season none of the promoted teams will have got relegatedQuote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
Of course ill be in Dlaymount
Though if its as bad as the game in Belfield
I want my money back!
My prediction for this season and next season is a Dublin City v SRFC playoff.
P.S. SRFC + 8 points is not ahead of UCD as of 6pm today. Come 9:30 UCD will be a further 3 points ahead.
Not that it matters
But we would have a 1 goal better goal diff
Fair enough, only temporaraly.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
You were saying ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
KOH
JUZ
If Sligo make it up I'd fancy them to stay-up for at least a season. They have the crowds to be able to afford to spend a bit on the team.
Harps and Waterford are both looking very weak at the moment. If either of them stays up it'll be a temporary stay of execution, so Sligo could easily stay up at their expense in 2006.
Hate to go over old ground myself but, why were Rovers deducted 8 points again ? oh yeah for trying to cheat.........Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
10 points clear of the bottom spot, which we were supposed to occupy all season long, i think were doing pretty well. We have taken points off Cork, Derry, Shels, Longford which aint half bad considering we were the weakest of the promoted teams.
If false accounts had not have been submitted Rovers would not have got their licence, Rovers submitted to they would get there licence. That to me = CheatingQuote:
Originally Posted by northside hoop
We have had a good season back but we may have taken points off Longford, Shels, Derry, Cork but we ain't beaten any of them though they have beaten us. We have only 6 wins as well which ain't exactly great i think we are extremely lucky it's now 12 teams as if it were 10 we would struggle sure we would not have made it up. I remember Richardson going on last season how it should remain a 10 team league as that way you either sink or swim as a 12 team league gives teams comfort zones just above the bottom few and have to say he was right the 10 team league adds more of an edge for all teams but hey it's only an opinion each to their own
Who was trying to cheat? Barry Murphy? Mark Rutherford? Jason McGuinness? These are the players that have won seven matches and drawn six, totaling 27 points. Whatever dubious carry-on was taking place in the name of SRFC in the past it's not their fault, nor is it mine or any of the other 435 shareholders of this club. You can stay living in the past if you so wish. We took our medicine and got on with it. Thankfully there is some justice in football as our efforts are now bearing fruit, and despite rediculous sanctions we WILL survive and we WILL stay up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
Yeah, cos Rovers fans never talk about the past :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by manic da hoop
lets talk about the future shall we
free stadium, maintained grounds, pitches and training facilities
zero debt
no tax issues
10 points from last 4 games
cup game vs non-league opponents on Sunday (not being big headed but we should claim a qtr final place)
Barry Murphy, Jay McGuinness, Billy Boy, Sheridan, Kenny, Rutherford... young talent and true class
whats coming up in the next few years for W'ford??
This thread has gone way off topic. :rolleyes:
how so? the topic is relegation, the question is, what is in the future for waterford?
Fans of other clubs just don't want to talk about the future when our name crops up. Something to do with a lack of a future for alot of them might have something to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by green-blood
However, if you all eager to start of a conversation about the past, and include Rovers in it, then where should we start: The Coad Colts, The Six-in-a-Row, The Four-in-a-Row?
We'll be relegated automatically or via the playoff losing to Sligo and spend a number of years struggling in the First Division before our last remaining director finally decides to throw in the towel after looking reality straight in the face.Quote:
Originally Posted by green-blood
No ground
No money
No support
Crap squad....
yeah the future is looking bright indeed.
Genuinely hope that you can sort out your problems - a proper club with a proper history. I came away from the RSC the other week obviously elated with the 3 points but also desperately worried for WUFC. Best of luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
KOH
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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Thanks man. Wasn't knocking Rovers, just found it ironic that Rovers fans are telling people to ignore what happened in the past. It's as much a part of the history of your club as any of the league triumphs. You don't hear waterford fans going on about our past league successes cos it means nothing now. We're in major trouble and there doesn't look like there's much light at the end of the tunnel. Until we can start holding on to all Waterford players from a young age, we'll never create any sort of continuity with support from the whole city. Just off the top of my head, if we had managed to keep all our good players over the last ten years we'd be in an extremely healthy position. Alan Reynolds, Alan Kirby, Shane Robinson, John Frost - all Waterford men. Neale Fenn, Gary O'Neill, Michael Devine, Daryl Murphy - all former Waterford players - until we can hang on to players like this we'll never manage to create a stable quality squad. Bear in mind as well that for players in Dublin, if offered the same money would choose to stay in Dublin rather than commute to Waterford.
see the thing is it looks like we are going to lose one if not both of Harps and w'ford, great clubs with great traditions, but keep UCD and get dub city....there's no justice.
Totally agree - history is a double-edged sword but I've no problem with us (or Waterford or anyone) using their rich heritage as a selling point. It's all we've had for nearly 20 years and is what were mosty well known for.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
The reservoir of latent Rovers support is still out there and still harks back to the glory days. All you have to do is take a taxi in Dublin to see that. But, you're 100% correct an amazing history is sod all without a stable future. We're trying to achieve just that and I hope that WUFC can do the same.
The same goes for Dundalk, Athlone, Limerick, Sligo etc. I'm a sentimentalist (it comes with the territory!) and I want to see the "famous" clubs doing well for the sake of Irish football.
KOH
The history of a club is extremely important, anyone suggesting otherwise is hiding behind a lack of one or denying a tradition that has survived long enough to earn a respect, a grudging one perhaps but a respect nonetheless!
We could of course start every season completely afresh & ignore/forget/deny anything that has happened the year before (why not, its all history & we need to draw the line somewhere after all) but i'd prefer to look back at all the old times good & bad as its that that defines what a club really is & to a extent where its going in the future!
Bad doesnt have to always be bad & alot can be learned from the mistakes of the past, i'd like to think the league as a whole will learn from the financial folly of recent years & develop into a sustainabe competitive competition for years to come, by denying the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes as our forefathers & in the modern era i dont know how well the league would cope if it continues indefinitely knifing itself in the back!
I agree with WAR, despite thoroughly enjoying our first win at the RSC last week i felt sorry for the genuine waterford fans who are in a worse situation than we were a few short weeks ago, i hope they can learn from this and move on and have many more seasons for us to try & claim our second win at the RSC!
Koh
Really good to hear positive outlooks on other clubs from Rovers fans. Trouble is, I don't see how Waterford can get out of this situation. We don't seem to have a huge debt, and the club hasn't been run into the ground the way the previous Rovers board did, it just seems that nobody in Waterford gives a toss about the team. Nobody wants to sponsor the club, it's impossible to get people to go to the matches and hence we can't generate the money required to get good players. I don't think we're paying the price for overspending because we haven't spent anything recently. Even after last year, a solid league and cup campaign, we didn't attract top class players because we couldn't afford to pay them what they'd get elsewhere.
To keep this on topic though, the way things are going we'll be relegated without a doubt. Unless we can start to score some goals we won't even make the play-off spot, though with the way we're playing at the moment, we wouldn't even win that.
Well a month ago you were telling us all that the club would be gone in a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
WUFC has survived so far, a few seasons in the 1st division is better than extinction, and Harps look far more likely to go down than Waterford.
In that case it seems to me that the worst that will happen to Waterford is that they'll go down, spend a few years in the first division and rebuild effectively from scratch. Not a pleasant prospect but if you don't have much debt, at least the club will still be there and in a position to build towards promotion again.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
Disagree, Waterford are dooooooomed and I think Harps will finish second bottom and beat the 1st Division side in the play-off. Hopefully Sligo come straight up and Dublin City are the beaten play-off side.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
KOH
hope your right!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
I'd agree with that. At least Harps are scoring some goals. It could be pretty close at the end of the season though. Both are practically guaranteed a point against us anyway given our record against bottom half teams. Hope Sligo come up too.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
As a Blues fan I'd be gutted if we went down to the 1st division wilderness but I'm kind of resigned to the fact that the best we'll get is a play off game against 2nd in division 1.We've no money,haven't won in 15 games and couldn't score in a brothel so it looks gloomy.I'd like to see Sligo Rovers come up automatically as they'd be a good addition to the Premier unlike Dublin City.
jaysus, if i were as optimistic as you then id be saying Rovers were in with a shout of winning the league!Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
Now you might think it's obvious that I would say this but...
I want Rovers to finish second from bottom in the play-off spot and Dublin city to finish second in Div 1 in the other play-off spot.
Then Roddy can lead his side out against the club he disgracefully shafted with Rovers connivance at the end of last season.
Dublin City can get revenge and sweet poetic justice by sending Rovers down.
Carlsberg don't do relegation play-offs, but if they did...