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That stand looks deadly. It'll really boost the profile of the X and turn it into a great LOI stadium...
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PLANS: http://www.corkcityfc.ie/downloads/newshedend.zip
Taken from: http://corkcityfc.ie/forums/index.ph...t=0#entry54201
That stand looks deadly. It'll really boost the profile of the X and turn it into a great LOI stadium...
close to being the best ground in the league already, I think this will confirm it, especially as the st annes end will be roofed once this is completed. The only problem is in the period between shed being knocked and this being finished (not sure if it will be ready for start of next season) the st annes end will have no roof, so could lead to a drop in crowds when weather is bad, plus poor atmosphere because no roof down there :mad:
Maybe not a problem though .... the money is there so there should be no problems with the contractors on that side of things ... the thing is now, is the contractor should have a time scale and will there be penalties if they dont meet them.
One thing i would have like to see was the stand pushed out more towards the boundry wall ... there would have been room for another few rows of seats and maybe might of helped to pay for the extention. Anyway not to worry ... the new stand (13 rows) will look abit like the St Annes end (20 rows) should be a great facility alright !!
I think the one important thing is will be full length of the pitch so won't be too much gap between it & the Donie Forde.
All very good news for the club. Put a couple of points here.
1) They said on the CCFC website that the plan would be to roof the St Annes end first. I think this is very important as the attendances would drop if it was raining.
2) I saw an article on Sky Sports News a few weeks back when they were previewing one of the stadiums in Germany for the World Cup ( I can't remember which one) but they had one terrace were the Seats could be locked in an upright position for German League games, but could be all seated for World Cup, CL and UEFA cup games. I think this would be a good idea to implement at the Shed End as I think the terrace adds to the atmosphere at league games. And could be changed for UEFA games. I'm sure changes cannot be made now though as the plans are already made.
3) A 7000 all seating capacity would mean no more 9000 attendance games. I know they only happen once or twice a year, but it's less revenue for CCFC.
These are only minor points as it is still could news for Cork City.
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Originally Posted by sullanefc
jesus i would not like to be in turners cross this season with more than 9000 people in it, I would imagine when a roof goes on the St annes end it will illiminate the standing area behind it, and when the shed is gone the only places left to stand will be immediate left and right hand sides of the donnie forde stand, "the corner" and the corner between St annes end the derrynane stand. And in the interest of saftey people should not be allowed stand in most of these places. I wonder withe the stadium becomming all seater would the insurance permium for the venue come down.
Not going to happen unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
The plans look good. I don't know sh!t bout architecture but it look's like a very decent stand. What end of the stadium will this be going?
Shed end
Nearest the road, by the horseshoe bar !!
How many 7,000 crowds have you had this season and how many do you expect from now to the end of the season? Actually, how many have you had over the last few years? Bare in mind the attendences averages on here and in the press look like they have been "slightly" overestimated based on recent official releases.
Wouldn't imagine capacity will be a problem for anything other than a European game or two and a end of season title decider against Derry? :D
The stand itself looks the business, but I'm puzzled by the VIP seating. Surely VIPs want to be on half way and not behind a goal? :confused:
See this photograph. It's the goal end to the left of the picture, next to the road. The only side of the ground not seated.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
VIP's want to be close to the bar. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
How will it effect atmosphere, will the regular shed enders take a section or two from the stand and stand there like we do or will they relocate?
Well if people had half an idea .... the best place for atmosphere after all of this is done will be St Annes end .... With the roof on it, it will be brilliant for atmosphere.
Wondering now aswell ..... the existing tunnel ... with that be converted into seats now. ??
Right up beside the away section too which would help the atmosphereQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
The new stand will be good as it will enclose the stadium a lot more.
Shows how prices have changed a lot though.
Main Stand built sometime around 95-98 for i think £200k for 1850 seats. Shed Stand going to cost approx £950k for 1500 seats.
You're not just paying for seats though, I'd imagine this will include alot more modern facilities.
Will there be a bar in this stand?
i doubt it, i'd imagine they'd still be using the odl dressign rooms for junior finals and underage finals and the likeQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
How can you look at the stand?all i can get is some Win Zip sh1te.
There are three pics zipped together in that file .... save the file and then double click ... it'll ask you to extract and then just pick and folder, when its done, just go there and view them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jorge
Thanks,it looks the part. :)
those plans look fantastic. I didnt know the new stand at the shed end was going right the way across the pitch. Its really going to add to the atmosphere down at Turners Cross !!
I thought that was the worst part of the ground, with the old toilet and all. Now its going to be the best part.
I think they should close up the old tunnel and put seating in there.
RTE said that Cork had plans to eventually bring the capacity to 14,000 seater. Is that right ? I dont know how they did their sums but one stand (opposite TV camera ) is very narrow and there is a load of houses in behind there so I cant see how they would increase it past 7,000.
Turners Cross will be the business after the new stand.
I hope shels get on with their plans
Im not trying to be funny lads but that stand is the exact same (if a little smaller) as the main stand in the showgrounds in sligo and that stand has its knockers as in me! you can see it in the side elevation shot the stand seating is split into two, the rear seating will have no problems as the elevation of the eats is good (people will be able to see over each other) but the front area will be sore on the necks. No elevation means everyone will be on high arse as they attempt to sit yet stand to see over the 6ft 7 person in front of them come to think of it a 4ft 6 person may cause problems. Dont get me wrong i wish all at cork city well but why oh why are all the stands in el designed by the same bloody crowd? I was in holland years ago and i asked a guy about seating he told me that the top back of the seat in front of you should be at minimum level with the lower of ur seat that ur sitting on. Ive only found this once in Ireland at that was in Monaghan but that stand too has its problems as in its 50 yards from the pitch. Just my opinion lads
At the moment turners cross has 5,500 seats, the new shed end stand will bring it up to 7,000 seats. The main stand where the tv camara is doesn't go the full length of the pitch and so could be extended giving an extra 1,000 seats max. Maybe there could be another 1,000 seats fit in at the St. Annes end if they went further up theres space there...??? :rolleyes: Maybe 4/500 more seats in the corners if they were lucky?!Quote:
RTE said that Cork had plans to eventually bring the capacity to 14,000 seater. Is that right ? I dont know how they did their sums but one stand (opposite TV camera ) is very narrow and there is a load of houses in behind there so I cant see how they would increase it past 7,000.
So if that would put the maximum expansion capacity of turners cross at about 10,000 all-seater. Any thoughts?!
What does that mean :confused: :confused:Quote:
that stand has its knockers as in me!
Well done monaghan eh :rolleyes:Quote:
Ive only found this once in Ireland at that was in Monaghan but that stand too has its problems as in its 50 yards from the pitch.
The stand may be a similar design to the one you have in Sligo but there may be more elevation used in the Cork stand. Maybe someone from Cork can clarify this point.
not sure what it means? are you calling yourself a tit?Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
sorry couldn't resist :D :D
I dont know Buller, but I know what you mean. They could extend the camera stand the full length of the pitch, fill in the corners and old tunnel for a start and that might add 2,000.
The only way to get past 9,000 seater capacity would be to purchase land from those houses opposite the TV cameras but that would be astromoical prices.
Still 7,000 (or even 9,000) people regularly attending CCFC matches would be a major boost for the coffers.
Never been to the RSC? plenty of elevation on the stand - there has to be to see past the athletics track :(Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
first up knockers as in a person who knocks back ideas and all, i think ye all got my point and about the RSC i had forgotten but again miles from the pitch. The nearest thing to a good stand in EL is the one in Buckley park but the front two rows are ****ee as they seem to have run out of ideas as to where to put seats. Is there any team in the land that can bulid a stand with good elevation (so everyone can see) with no pylons in front (so everyone can see) with disabled seats (not a spare ramp on the outer roof of a stand) with a roof that covers all the seats and most of all with good toilets. I think some first division teams could show the way as in athlone or maybe limerick. Oh about the plans btw, we in limerick have seen these before. Our plan for the pike rovers was very very similar :confused:
Shelbourne have plans to develop a new stadium out in Donebate. Its based on the rushden and diamonds stadium in England. Not the prettist of stadiums IMO, but can be expanded with a second tier.
Have you never been in Dalymount ? The Jodi Stand is superb, best stand in the league by a mile. Lots of leg-room, great height between the seats and a nice view of the pitch. The main stand in Flancare Park is good too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
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Originally Posted by TonyD
agree two fine stands but both have obstructions in their designs. In short poles in the way. hea look im no expert but if anyone wants to see what i mean i can e-mail pics to them of good and bad stands. gael353@hotmail.com
Rushden and Diamonds ground?!Quote:
Its based on the rushden and diamonds stadium in England. Not the prettist of stadiums IMO, but can be expanded with a second tier.
Shels are basing donebate on a 5000 seater stadium?! :eek:
is this the stadium, Nene Park??? :confused: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pa.../rushden22.jpg
You cant be serious! Wheres the two tiers!!!
That looks like a nice little stadium,would be perfect for any eircom league club imo,could be a small bit bigger alrite.It reminds me of nijmegans ground,obviously on a smaller scale
It will be a 6800 seater with one tier and another can be added easily (if we hit the big time!).
Better to have improved facilities on a modest scale instead of starting projects that cannot be completed.
The Main Stand in Tallaght will cost anything from 5-10m when completed & rest of ground will still have mud banks.
And at the end of which you dont see in the pic is the biggest stand with an arced roof. I think the stand just on the right in this pic should be what most clubs should be going for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buller
The Cross in a perfect world!! :)
http://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwel.../NEC_LE_02.jpg
Yeah, initial plans are for 6,800 seater capacity with just the bottom tier. If Shels ever made the group stages of the Champions league regularly a second tier could (will according to Shelbourne FC) be added. That would bring the capacity to about 14,000 or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliogán Dóite
Considering that Munster rugby are upgrading their stadium to 14,000 and they are playing big games all the time, Shelbourne's plans are good.
I hate the Rusden and Diamonds stadium though http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pa...45/rushden.htm. Its typical anglo saxon stadium design - square and ugly. The Boras Arena is the swedish model based on the same design as the Rusden and Diamonds stadium AFAIK. Its far nicer and costs about €12million Euro and has a 14,500 seater capacity. http://www.stadiumguide.com/borasarena.htm
Shelbourne said the WONT be basing their design on the Boras Arena. It would have been a great show case for the EL though.
What will the capacity of the stand be ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
The tallaght stadium looks pretty big IMO but i never got a proper look at it. Would there be enough room to continue the stand the full way around the pitch if funds were ever found ?