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If we win our last four games: France; Swiss, Faroes & Cyprus.
We make 22 points, which means Swiss can only make 21, France 19 and
Israel 20. However it's the 'if' which is the problem word, 8 drawn matches
between the top 4 so far and no doubt a few more draws in the next 4.
Switzerland........... 6 3 3 0 12
Israel ...................7 2 5 0 11
Republic of Ireland ..6 2 4 0 10
France .................6 2 4 0 10
Cyprus................. 6 0 1 5 1
Faroe Islands........ 5 0 1 4 1
Lets get serious here TrickyColour, we can't put away Israel despite a 2 goal lead at home we ain't gonna put the Swiss away at home, we ain't gonna put the French away. We'll come third in this group. Negative I know, but what do you expect?
and we cant put Israel away away from home either. And france, even though we dominated in Paris. I didnt see the swiss away game but I heard that we just sat back once we scored. WE only have ourselves to blaem here lads. Negative tactics. Happened again today. What was wrong with bringing Elliot on today for Robbie :confused: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by dancinpants
Just cause it's Ireland doesn't mean we have this infallable right to beat big teams at home.
I have a bad feeling about the France match.They're due a big win.
We drew with Israel.Thats a big blow.It's not looking bright.
It's the same thinking for me..Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
But let's take 3pts on wednesday, and then we'll think about france..
But you're right.. At this moment, if I think to the match against France, I'm really scared of a results like Ireland-France from the last rugby SixNations..
It's a strange comparison, but try to think about it: before that game, it was all about an our victory but then they won
I don't want to tell that I'm think about a lost against France,absolutely not.. but I'm not too sure that we can win at home against Henry&co, like I was days ago.. :confused:
At this stage we should take it one game at a time. Next Wednesday is a must win and - judging by the other match today and by our own performance tonight - we should not assume that we only need to turn up to get the three points!
There are four teams chasing two places. Let's just focus on the Faroes and worry about France, Cyprus & Switzerland after that.
NEGATIVITY GET YE KNOW WHERE!Quote:
Originally Posted by dancinpants
I BELIEVE!
[SIZE=7]I BELIEVE!!!!![/SIZE]
[SIZE=7]WE ARE GOING TO GERMANY![/SIZE]
Me too!!!! I believe we can go through!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
C'mon!!! :)
[SIZE=4]FAIR HJUICE TO YA MA MAN YOU ROCK!!! COME ON IRELAND! YOU AND ME BUDDY CHEERING THE BOYS ON WHEN THEY GET TO GERMANY!! THAT'S RIGHT YOU NON -BELIEVERS IRELAND ARE GOING TO GERMANY BELIEVE IT TONIGHT!!![/SIZE]Quote:
Originally Posted by tonycuna
i have to say that there is a lot to be taken from the team's performance in the first and last 20 minutes of the match. add finnan, keane and possibly richie dunne and stephen kelly (with finnan on the left and josh in manchester) to that and who knows what we might achieve
so here's to germany (we better ****ing get there, i have tickets :D)
i can see israel mucking it up against the faroes and cyprus, i think we'll end second in this group behind france. and then knock out the european champions in the playoffs. oh yes indeed.
I am alone in thinking we played well tonight? A fcuking freak match. Never seen the likes of it before at Landsdowne
Your not alone! We were great tonight!Quote:
Originally Posted by davey
[SIZE=6]YOUR KNOW WAY ALONE-GET INTO THE "TONIGHT" THREAD-WE BELIEVE IA M SO FLOGGIN' PROUD OF THE BOYS TONIGHT!!![/SIZE]Quote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
Couldnt agree more davey. am sick about the way isreal got their point but i thought ireland did well. just a shame we lost robbie so earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by davey
To be fair we were decent and very unlucky. But why tnhe **** was an injured striker replaced with a midfielder. Stephen f'in Elliot for gods sake. We'd the game won. Game was lost in the centre of the park.
By we you mean Italy right? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tonycuna
No no ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
I don't care about Italian team :mad:
My only thinking is about Ireland, and WE is for:
-nation Ireland
-team Ireland
-all of Irish people plus me ;)
C'mon lads! C'mon! :ball:
Liam, if you can answer me this in the morning, i'd be delighted-Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
[SIZE=6]WERE YOU PÍSSED?[/SIZE] :D
Seriously, though-we can do it, EASY-EASY-EASY! :p
No mate I only drink Red Bull or Lucozade :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jofyisgod
[SIZE=7]WE STILL BELIEVE-C'MON IRELAND!!![/SIZE]
I was wondering much the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by jofyisgod
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I thought you knew me better than that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Red Bull and [SIZE=7]A ONE WAY TICKET TO GERMANY![/SIZE]
I suppose I do, but some of your posts last night led me to think differently.
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Bad thing or good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
I was only trying to get people to keep believing and trying to channel my anger intotsupport for Ireland.......didn't say anything bad did I?
No you didn't, although I do get a little worried when everything turns into a prayer-a-thon. We're not all as staunch as you, me boy, and whilst I applaud your devotion, it's occasionally a little misplaced. I'm sure God has His hands full with the idiocies of the human race, famines and wars without worrying about whether we make it to Germany next year or not. Keep the prayers for the things that really matter, eh? :)
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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
See that's the great thing about God he looks ut for what matters to people no matter how big or small-I know there's way bigger things which I'm preying for of course but obviously this matters to a lot of people and I genuinely believe faith can help.
Sorry if I talked about prayer that much but most of my posts were simply about faith in our sqaud and belief we can make it to Germany......I did post a prayer yeah and I do mention my religion but that's because it affects every aspect of my life but when I'm saying "we believe" "we have faith" "we can make it to Germany"I'm talking about fatih and belief in our team!
Our believe God will help us yes but last night the majority of my posts were focussed on support and trust in the Ireland sqaud!
I think we can beat Faroes and Cyprus. I think we can beat France .. then it will all come down to the final match Switzerland.. they are great but we will struggle against them
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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Beginning to feel a bit insulted though that just because I was cheering on our country and trying to raise the patriotic spirit a regular poster who actually knows me persumes i must be drunk :( shame really.
Agree with you Soper, France are due to come good. The thought of Henry sprinting at the ageing Kenny Cunningham scares the sh!t out of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
Mathematically we can still top the group but realistically we havent got a prayer. At best we can hope for is a playoff spot and I think we'd all take the at this stage.
Well Liam, "fair juice" to you if that didn't drive you to the demon drop. It has done to many a weaker man. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
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You're right. But it was Kerr's fault that we allowed freak luck or whatever to even be a factor. But I actually think we'll get there too. I'm actually less mad today than I was even a week after the draw in Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by davey
Now now, calm down, id never describe switzerland as being "great", they are decent maybe, but thats about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
Yep,Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob117
in the last two matches, they won with Cyprus and FarOer with late 10mins goals..
This is great lads. Lets get all the irish fans to have a bad feeling about the Swiss and French matches. Just like Holland in 2001. people were like i dont know and we all know how ireland played. So the more bad feelings we get the more i believe we can still go to Germany.
And lets not forget.....Ireland should of scored 4 goals last night in the second half. We were like United in the FA cup final....unlucky.
So can Ireland still go to Germany????
Of course its in out hands.
The Swiss are no better than the Israeli's and we can quite easily beat them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dancinpants
I just put it on another thread too, but we can win the group still on 18, 19 or 20 points. It's that tight. Switzerland vs Israel and Switzerland vs France are still tough to call, as are all our remaining games!
It may surprise you but we can lose one of Faroes & Cyprus, or draw both and mathematically win the group!
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Originally Posted by Don Vito
Thats it lads. Lets all throw in the towel now :rolleyes:
Were in the same position now as FRANCE. Fair enough we have to get 3 points out in the faroes but its all to play for.
I think we're in a much better position than the French. They still have to travel to Dublin and Switzerland the 2 toughest teams at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
That's right. Assuming that we take 6pts between FarOer and Cyprus (and we'll take them), if we beat France at home, that two matches (Switz-France and Switz-Isr) will decide the group before our last match at home against swissQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
That's what I'm saying-just because we're not teo points ahead of France everyne has sacked Kerr and half the team and are hastily looking for a distant foreign relative so they don't have to renew their Irish passport! And when anyone tries to get the atmosphere up and keep the faith alive they are drunk, on drugs or just a nutter who p*sses everyone off.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
This doesn't go for the whole forum of course but does for a few!
Lads......we're going to Germany!
The only advantage that Switzerland have over us is that they are still favourites to take 3 points from Israel at home in my view. But they still have to come here, play France and go to Cyprus who they struggled against at home. France have to go away twice but they have both minnows at home (good for goal difference).
I think it's more likely than not that we'll finish in the top 2.
Who'd settle for second place now? I'm torn but I think we should still be looking to win the flipping thing.