Celtic fans - frustration

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02/05/2005, 6:14 PM
Superhoops

Celtic fans - frustration

As someone who is not a Celtic fan, I found this piece from today's Indo interesting:

The tension of the title run-in is also getting to the Celtic fans. They took their frustration out on the players, particularly Irish international Aiden McGeady when losing the ball, but O'Neill has called for more support from the crowd...........O'Neill said: "I know young Aiden McGeady lost the ball a few times but that's when we should get a bit more encouragement. I just felt that we could do with a bit more help from the support but they turn up in their droves and if you pay your money then your can say what you want."

Why did fans vent their spleen on young McGeady? Was he/is he that bad? Is he that much worse than the others? Is it cause he chose Ireland rather than Scotland? Hopefully he never has a bad game for Ireland or the lad is on for some dog's abuse!

O'Neill seems to accept that while it would be nice to get a bit more encouragement, supporters, cos they pay their money, can say what they want. This obviously explains why the anti-Rangers booing at Ireland games is considered OK by Celtic fans. Hopefully O'Neill does not literally mean fans can say what they want. There must be some limits.

Finally is the honeymoon over between O'Neill and the Celtic fans? Very strange to hear him having to call for more support from the same fans who he has always extolled as the best in the world.
02/05/2005, 9:44 PM
Orchard Celt

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

As someone who is not a Celtic fan, I found this piece from today's Indo interesting:

The tension of the title run-in is also getting to the Celtic fans. They took their frustration out on the players, particularly Irish international Aiden McGeady when losing the ball, but O'Neill has called for more support from the crowd...........O'Neill said: "I know young Aiden McGeady lost the ball a few times but that's when we should get a bit more encouragement. I just felt that we could do with a bit more help from the support but they turn up in their droves and if you pay your money then your can say what you want."

Why did fans vent their spleen on young McGeady? Was he/is he that bad? Is he that much worse than the others? Is it cause he chose Ireland rather than Scotland? Hopefully he never has a bad game for Ireland or the lad is on for some dog's abuse!

O'Neill seems to accept that while it would be nice to get a bit more encouragement, supporters, cos they pay their money, can say what they want. This obviously explains why the anti-Rangers booing at Ireland games is considered OK by Celtic fans. Hopefully O'Neill does not literally mean fans can say what they want. There must be some limits.

Finally is the honeymoon over between O'Neill and the Celtic fans? Very strange to hear him having to call for more support from the same fans who he has always extolled as the best in the world.

To be honest some fans at CP, especially the fans that sit in the main stand are a disgrace. I bad pass, missed tackle and they moan at you, its a disgrace when we should be supporting the team.

What went wrong against Hibs has happened ALL year and Martin O'Neill is at fault. We have Joos playing left back, he is dead slow and the amount of times we've seen him ripped apart in the left hand side is frighting. Joos is also right footed. We have a decent wee left back with a good left foot in Laursen but O'Neill always favours Joos. Its amazing how well and balanced the defence looks when Laursen is playing, how can MON not see this?

Our midfield is a joke too. We have 1 of the best attacking midfields in Scotland in Petrov yet Martin O'Neill countiunes to play him wide right, Petrov played center against rangers last week, we won, he scored, he was best player on the field. Against Hibs, Petrov on right which offers us nothing.

Thompson, one of the best left sided wingers we have has played all year in the center, WHY? we need Thommo on the wing giving great delivery to the big men Sutton and Hartson. Thommo is wasted in the middle yet Martin O'Neill countiunes to play him there.

McGeady, although a great wee talent he is still young and learning but Martin O'Neill keeps him on the left. McGeady is right footed and although yes he's played well this year his best postison I feel is in behind the 2 strikers were he could use his skill to unlock a tight defence.

Surely Martin O'Neill could know you could play McGeady on the right instead of Petrov. Petrov in the center instead of Thommo and Thommo on the left instead of McGeady.

I'am amazed that people think Martin O'Neill will end up at Man Utd. If Utd are the club they think they are, then they need a far better manager than Martin O'Neill.

But I still think we'll win the league :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
02/05/2005, 10:57 PM
Gerrit

Where is our Hibernians fan anyway ?? He didn't comment on their shock victory, maybe he's still recovering from a long night of celebrating ??
02/05/2005, 10:57 PM
Gerrit

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Why did fans vent their spleen on young McGeady? Was he/is he that bad? Is he that much worse than the others? Is it cause he chose Ireland rather than Scotland?

From a club who labels itself as Irish and not British (sure, they're Irish :rolleyes: ) that cannot be the reason, not ?
02/05/2005, 11:39 PM
Superhoops

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

From a club who labels itself as Irish and not British (sure, they're Irish :rolleyes: ) that cannot be the reason, not ?

I dont think the club labels itself Irish. It is Celtic's Irish fans and fans of Irish origin who like to think it is an Irish club.
03/05/2005, 7:47 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

Where is our Hibernians fan anyway ?? He didn't comment on their shock victory, maybe he's still recovering from a long night of celebrating ??

Oh sweet lord what a weekend :D :D Still recovering

For the 2nd time this season Hibs outclassed Celtic at Parkhead, but this time we got result we deserved. It's taken 13 years, and man was it SWEET :D

Bring on 3rd place and the UEFA Cup. Not that the Jambo's would know anything about that :D
03/05/2005, 9:35 AM
eirebhoy

I listened to the match on the radio and McGeady didn't get any abuse. The fans were getting frustrated after about the 50th home game in a row going behind. If a player made a bad choice the fans would moan and when 60,000 moan at the same time its a bit obvious. Unfortunately McGeady kept losing the ball but it was certainly nothing personal.

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I dont think the club labels itself Irish. It is Celtic's Irish fans and fans of Irish origin who like to think it is an Irish club.

Well I personally have never heard a real Celtic fan ever sayin Celtic were an Irish club.
03/05/2005, 10:02 AM
Stuttgart88

Can somebody post the remaining fixtures for both Celtic & Rangers please?

I have to say, and admittedly it's easy to say this in hindsight, but I didn't feel the league was over after Celtic beat Rangers. Celtic's home form in the last few weeks has been poor, Bellamy is out for the rest of the season, and each of Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen has given the OF a run for their money this year.
03/05/2005, 10:11 AM
stickyjoe

Celtic Rangers
Aberdeen (h) Hearts (H)
Hearts (A) Motherwell (H)
Motherwell (A) Hibs (A)
03/05/2005, 10:32 AM
Stuttgart88

Thanks.

Celtic will have to play very well to get 9 points from those games. It's also a real test for O'Neill.

What's the story with Sutton's injury?
03/05/2005, 10:49 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Thanks.

Celtic will have to play very well to get 9 points from those games. It's also a real test for O'Neill.

What's the story with Sutton's injury?

Rangers have it just as hard if not harder than Celtic.. they have to play Hibs away..
So while Celtic have a few though matches comin up they still have the advantage over Rangers :D Hopefully they don't blow it :(
03/05/2005, 11:15 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Rangers have it just as hard if not harder than Celtic.. they have to play Hibs away..
So while Celtic have a few though matches comin up they still have the advantage over Rangers :D Hopefully they don't blow it :(

If you boys beat Aberdeen next weekend Hibs are pretty much secure of 3rd place and UEFA cup, so Ranger's might not have it as difficult when they come to Easter Road.
03/05/2005, 11:29 AM
stickyjoe

Sutton is struggling with a groin strain but i was reading that hes 50/50 for sunday. but bellamy is definitely out.

huge 3 games left for each team. celtic have to win all 3, a draw would mean rangers wiinning it again on goal difference as it stands

celtic should win this title, once they keep their heads. biggest banana skin is hearts away especially with the recent history between the clubs.
03/05/2005, 1:40 PM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

If you boys beat Aberdeen next weekend Hibs are pretty much secure of 3rd place and UEFA cup, so Ranger's might not have it as difficult when they come to Easter Road.

Sorry I don't play for them and I'm not a boy :rolleyes:

So are you saying Hibs would Lie down for Rangers, to help them win the league.... :confused:
03/05/2005, 1:51 PM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Sorry I don't play for them and I'm not a boy :rolleyes:

So are you saying Hibs would Lie down for Rangers, to help them win the league.... :confused:

Not saying that, but if we confirm 3rd in league before then, Rangers will have a LOT more at stake in the match
03/05/2005, 1:58 PM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

Not saying that, but if we confirm 3rd in league before then, Rangers will have a LOT more at stake in the match

Rangers will have the same at stake, but if Hibs have nothing to loose, besides their last game of the season and the fact that they can say they've beat the top 2 teams in the league if they do win... :rolleyes:

Can't see them lying down or going any easier because they have got 3rd Guananteed...
There still will be a lot to play for!!

Thought you were a Hibs fan ;)
03/05/2005, 2:36 PM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Rangers will have the same at stake, but if Hibs have nothing to loose, besides their last game of the season and the fact that they can say they've beat the top 2 teams in the league if they do win... :rolleyes:

Can't see them lying down or going any easier because they have got 3rd Guananteed...
There still will be a lot to play for!!

Thought you were a Hibs fan ;)

Where do I say thet'll lie down. Maybe you're just making excuses of conspiricy theories already in case Celtic mess up :rolleyes:
03/05/2005, 3:35 PM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

Where do I say thet'll lie down. Maybe you're just making excuses of conspiricy theories already in case Celtic mess up :rolleyes:

Well you are implying that Hibs will be easier for rangers to beat if they have secured 3rd...
I was just saying that I don't think they will and they will still have a good bit to fight for
03/05/2005, 3:38 PM
Superhoops

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

.... Maybe you're just making excuses of conspiricy theories already in case Celtic mess up :rolleyes:

Saints, careful you are not are mixing up Celtic fans with Cork fans!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
04/05/2005, 7:13 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Saints, careful you are not are mixing up Celtic fans with Cork fans!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Did Celtic not claim the same thing before about Dunfirmline letting Rangers hammer them?? Now the same thing is being said again about Hibs if we lose to Rangers ;)
04/05/2005, 8:16 AM
Junior

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

Did Celtic not claim the same thing before about Dunfirmline letting Rangers hammer them?? Now the same thing is being said again about Hibs if we lose to Rangers ;)

Firstly it was Chris Sutton who implied it not Celtic.
Secondly you implied as much yourself about Hibs lieing down this year.
04/05/2005, 8:38 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Junior

Firstly it was Chris Sutton who implied it not Celtic.
Secondly you implied as much yourself about Hibs lieing down this year.

Show me where I implied Hibs will "LIE DOWN" :confused: :confused:
04/05/2005, 8:44 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

Did Celtic not claim the same thing before about Dunfirmline letting Rangers hammer them?? Now the same thing is being said again about Hibs if we lose to Rangers ;)

Its you who said Rangers will have it easier against hibs if hibs aren't fighting for 3rd place... Not me... :mad:
I was standing up for Hibs saying I don't think they'd do that...

here is your direct comment if you don't remember

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

If you boys beat Aberdeen next weekend Hibs are pretty much secure of 3rd place and UEFA cup, so Ranger's might not have it as difficult when they come to Easter Road.

Please correct me if I'm wrong
Does this quote not imply that Hibs might be easier on Rangers if they are not battleing for 3rd place??
04/05/2005, 8:54 AM
drinkfeckarse

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Please correct me if I'm wrong
Does this quote not imply that Hibs might be easier on Rangers if they are not battleing for 3rd place??

It seems to to everyone except S4E :D
04/05/2005, 9:01 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

It seems to to everyone except S4E :D

It seems that way to celtic fans. I'm saying if hibs already secure 3rd place BEFORE the ranger's match, they OBVIOUSLY will be more relaxed against Rangers than if we had to beat rangers to secure 3rd. Did not say ANYWHERE on this website we're gonna "lie down" and LET rangers win. You lads are just making your excuses already. :rolleyes:
04/05/2005, 9:20 AM
Hibs4Ever

For the first time in my life I actually WANT celtic to win this weekend :eek: , if Aberdeen lose and we beat Motherwell we only need 1 point from our last 2 games for 3rd spot. So lets hope celtic don't mess up, they seem to struggle against Aberdeen a little.
04/05/2005, 9:47 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

It seems that way to celtic fans. I'm saying if hibs already secure 3rd place BEFORE the ranger's match, they OBVIOUSLY will be more relaxed against Rangers than if we had to beat rangers to secure 3rd. Did not say ANYWHERE on this website we're gonna "lie down" and LET rangers win. You lads are just making your excuses already. :rolleyes:

Theres no Excuses being made...

You are still implying that Hibs wouldn't play as well against Rangers if there was nothin in it for them... But even if the 3rd place is secured there is still a lot to play for in the game as stated in an earlier post by me, and I don't think they will be easier to beat either way...

But at the end of the day all they can ever come is 3rd and no amount of Jealousy and b!tchin about Celtic and Rangers will change that...

Winning the league is what matters :D
And I've every confidance Celtic will do it
04/05/2005, 10:00 AM
ColinR

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Theres no Excuses being made...

You are still implying that Hibs wouldn't play as well against Rangers if there was nothin in it for them... But even if the 3rd place is secured there is still a lot to play for in the game as stated in an earlier post by me, and I don't think they will be easier to beat either way...

But at the end of the day all they can ever come is 3rd and no amount of Jealousy and b!tchin about Celtic and Rangers will change that...

Winning the league is what matters :D
And I've every confidance Celtic will do it

tbh, it looks like if excuses are not being made, there is a lot of worry setting in. of course hibs will be more relaxed when rangers come to town, if third place is secure by then. its not hibs fault if celtic drop yet more points between now and the end of the season. winning the league is all that matters to celtic, losing is a disaster to them. getting to europe is all that matters at this moment is all that matters to hibs.
04/05/2005, 10:08 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by ColinR

tbh, it looks like if excuses are not being made, there is a lot of worry setting in. of course hibs will be more relaxed when rangers come to town, if third place is secure by then. its not hibs fault if celtic drop yet more points between now and the end of the season. winning the league is all that matters to celtic, losing is a disaster to them. getting to europe is all that matters at this moment is all that matters to hibs.

S4E is the one coming up with the whole conspiracy theory... That's where all this crap is coming from... So I don't know where your seeing any worry..
04/05/2005, 10:16 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Sorry I don't play for them and I'm not a boy :rolleyes:

So are you saying Hibs would Lie down for Rangers, to help them win the league.... :confused:

HERE'S WHERE IT ALL STARTED
04/05/2005, 10:20 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

HERE'S WHERE IT ALL STARTED

No It all started with your post before that..
I was requesting that you clarify your comments as below..

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

If you boys beat Aberdeen next weekend Hibs are pretty much secure of 3rd place and UEFA cup, so Ranger's might not have it as difficult when they come to Easter Road.

You do have selective reading don't you... Take the blinkers off

and there's no need to shout, I can read not like yourself obviously :rolleyes:
04/05/2005, 10:28 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

No It all started with your post before that..
I was requesting that you clarify your comments as below..

You do have selective reading don't you... Take the blinkers off

and there's no need to shout, I can read not like yourself obviously :rolleyes:

Look I'm not getting banned for arguing here. You obviously don't know anything about football. What I said is common sense in football. It does NOT mean Hibs will "LIE DOWN". It means its the last game of a long season, the team have achieved what they set out for, and can enjoy their last match without any pressure on them. If celtic mess up it thats their problem, means they weren't good enough. Simple as that, nothing else
04/05/2005, 10:33 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

Look I'm not getting banned for arguing here. You obviously don't know anything about football. What I said is common sense in football. It does NOT mean Hibs will "LIE DOWN". It means its the last game of a long season, the team have achieved what they set out for, and can enjoy their last match without any pressure on them. If celtic mess up it thats their problem, means they weren't good enough. Simple as that, nothing else

Sorry I know nothing about football at all.. You are so full of crap its unbelieveable..
I was asking you to clarify what you were saying and put to you the concept that hibs may have a lot to fight for in the match, as in beating the top two teams in the league and ending the season winning..
If you can't handle having a football debate and people questioning and discussing your opinions don't bloody give them... :mad: :mad:
04/05/2005, 10:50 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Sorry I know nothing about football at all.. You are so full of crap its unbelieveable..
I was asking you to clarify what you were saying and put to you the concept that hibs may have a lot to fight for in the match, as in beating the top two teams in the league and ending the season winning..
If you can't handle having a football debate and people questioning and discussing your opinions don't bloody give them... :mad: :mad:

It seems you are the reason these threads are getting banned. Your arguing, name calling, and constant " :mad: " faces. Good man
04/05/2005, 10:57 AM
Eire06

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Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

It seems you are the reason these threads are getting banned. Your arguing, name calling, and constant " :mad: " faces. Good man

I am not a man and I'm not the reason I actually would put you down as one of the main trollers in celtic Threads...
Celtic Threads are being closed because they are constantly going into political issues..

As far as I can see we were having a healthy Footballing debate and you cant handle it, I wasn't argueing with you just disagreeing with you

Can you please point out where I'm calling you names??
and are the faces not there to be used... :mad: :mad:
04/05/2005, 11:17 AM
Green Tribe

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Originally Posted by Eire06

I am not a man and I'm not the reason I actually would put you down as one of the main trollers in celtic Threads...
Celtic Threads are being closed because they are constantly going into political issues..

As far as I can see we were having a healthy Footballing debate and you cant handle it, I wasn't argueing with you just disagreeing with you

Can you please point out where I'm calling you names??
and are the faces not there to be used... :mad: :mad:

...class!

She's not a man :mad:

Go Eire06! :D