2016 FAI Cup Final Referee. Rob (Roy) Rodgers.

I thinks its only fair to mention Mr Rob (Roy) Rodgers the referee from yesterdays final..

If you see this Rob, well done on an abysmal performance.

Giving yellow cards when none were warranted & not giving them when they were obvious.
Dragging the game back for free kicks when the players just wanted to get on with it & generally doing everything in your limited power to destroy the occasion.
Typical League of Ireland referee wanting to be the center of attention at all times.
Do us a favor Rob,pack it in & give all suffering League of Ireland fans a break.

Rogers was excellent throughout the game. Maybe could have given Cork a penalty early on but overall he was superb.

Didn't think he was that bad ,Caulfields tactics destroyed the game in the first half nowt to do with the referee .

The comments above re Roy Rodgers can also be shared in regard to the referee at the Women's final, Deirdre Nolan, who gave possibly the two worst penalty decisions in favour of a single team that I've ever seen at one match. (I don't know what they looked like on television but even the Cork supporters beside me couldn't believe the second one and reporters have already conceded that the second one was not a penalty). Coupled with a decision not to award Wexford's Aisling Frawley a peno when she was taken down in the box, it was potentially a three goal swing that the referee was responsible for.

My suspicions had been aroused initially when I looked at the FAI official programme before the match which contained, on page 44, a reasonably long interview with said referee. There was a curious omission in the interview - it gave no indication as to where she was from or what league she was linked to. Maybe Inishowen - lots of football there. Perhaps Cork, plenty of good women's teams there. Even Galway with Galway WFC and Salthill Devon to the fore in women's football.

When I came home after the final, I googled the said name with the addition of the term "referee". Assuming the two persons are one and the same, Deirdre Nolan is affiliated to the North Dublin Schoolboys/Girls League. Thus, for a cup final between teams from Wexford and North Dublin, the FAI thought it proper to appoint a North Dublin referee.

In the programme interview, the referee also is tellingly quoted as saying "you get to know the teams quite well." I'd wager that she knows Shelbourne a lot better than she knows Wexford as I don't think I've ever seen her referee a game in Wexford.

Other issues in regard to this particular match also left a very bitter taste in the mouth thereafter but I've not got full details as yet.

Finally, I should say that Shelbourne were outstanding on the day and gave the best performance by a women's team that I've seen since WYW began in the WNL and the above comments should not be regarded in any way as taking away from their win (which I'm sure they won't).

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Rogers was excellent throughout the game. Maybe could have given Cork a penalty early on but overall he was superb.

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Completely agree. I thought he had a great game overall. And some of the logic he applied throughout by not booking players and just telling them to cop on was great to see.

Unlike a certain Mr Winters 5 years previously. #stillbitter

Thought the ref did fine from watching on TV. Very surprised by the OP's comments.

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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Thought the ref did fine from watching on TV. Very surprised by the OP's comments.

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He was crap for both teams IMO.

He obviously decided he wasn't going to send anyone off. That is the only possible explanation for ignoring persistent fouling in the first half. Someone could have seriously hurt.

I was impressed with Rodgers, he done well and was well in control of the proceedings.
Was the pitch as cráp as it looked on the tele?

I enjoyed it. But I am a glutton.

TBH it was decent fare considering how wrecked both teams must have been after that season.

Though I was in the Upper West and seeing as it practically got to the end of ET, I wanted penalties to at least make the numb knees I had then possessed worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by ForzaForth

The comments above re Roy Rodgers can also be shared in regard to the referee at the Women's final, Deirdre Nolan, who gave possibly the two worst penalty decisions in favour of a single team that I've ever seen at one match. (I don't know what they looked like on television but even the Cork supporters beside me couldn't believe the second one and reporters have already conceded that the second one was not a penalty). Coupled with a decision not to award Wexford's Aisling Frawley a peno when she was taken down in the box, it was potentially a three goal swing that the referee was responsible for.

My suspicions had been aroused initially when I looked at the FAI official programme before the match which contained, on page 44, a reasonably long interview with said referee. There was a curious omission in the interview - it gave no indication as to where she was from or what league she was linked to. Maybe Inishowen - lots of football there. Perhaps Cork, plenty of good women's teams there. Even Galway with Galway WFC and Salthill Devon to the fore in women's football.

When I came home after the final, I googled the said name with the addition of the term "referee". Assuming the two persons are one and the same, Deirdre Nolan is affiliated to the North Dublin Schoolboys/Girls League. Thus, for a cup final between teams from Wexford and North Dublin, the FAI thought it proper to appoint a North Dublin referee.

In the programme interview, the referee also is tellingly quoted as saying "you get to know the teams quite well." I'd wager that she knows Shelbourne a lot better than she knows Wexford as I don't think I've ever seen her referee a game in Wexford.

Other issues in regard to this particular match also left a very bitter taste in the mouth thereafter but I've not got full details as yet.

Finally, I should say that Shelbourne were outstanding on the day and gave the best performance by a women's team that I've seen since WYW began in the WNL and the above comments should not be regarded in any way as taking away from their win (which I'm sure they won't).

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Watched the womens final alright.
I'll never complain about our referees ever again......well, for four months anyway.

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Originally Posted by White Horse

He obviously decided he wasn't going to send anyone off. That is the only possible explanation for ignoring persistent fouling in the first half. Someone could have seriously hurt.

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And yet no one was. Phew......

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Originally Posted by Dodge

And yet no one was. Phew......

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I wouldn't be so cavalier with the safety of others.

Chris Shields was very lucky.

I'd say he was unlucky. No doubt Cork went out hard at the start but thought ref handled it well.

I suppose after Anthony Buttimer, Rodgers must look like Collina :o
If anyone had got seriously hurt it would have been down to the referee for failing to controls the players.

A mate sent me this photo this morning. He said it appeared on the Cork City forum.
If you look you'll see exactly what I mean. Six officials & they still can't see anything :rolleyes:

Eye gouging.
I thought this sort of behavior only happened in Rugby ?

In that picture there's about 12 players between the ref and the incident. Give them a break

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Originally Posted by Dodge

In that picture there's about 12 players between the ref and the incident. Give them a break

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Tell that to Beattie.

What about the other 5 officials ?
Don't they count ?

Come off it Dodge. That's a terrible thing to do to anyone.
Its just downright dangerous as well as being sneaky.
Wait until you think the ref can't see you & put the fingers in.

I always knew Shields was a bit of a hard man but I didn't think he did that.
Must be something he learned in Bray as Dundalk players would never do something like that :rolleyes:

To be honest, it looks like Chris Shields is helpfully adjusting a contact lens.

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Originally Posted by disgruntled

Come off it Dodge. That's a terrible thing to do to anyone............... Wait until you think the ref can't see you

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the ref should have done more you say ???

UK Daily Mail type of post with the photo. A single photo can often taken out of context. Video footage would be required to see what actually happened. It could be a case of head to hand rather than hand to head but sure maybe it wouldn't be sensationalism if we actually saw the sequence of events rather than a snapshot.

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Originally Posted by GCdfc

UK Daily Mail type of post with the photo. A single photo can often taken out of context. Video footage would be required to see what actually happened. It could be a case of head to hand rather than hand to head but sure maybe it wouldn't be sensationalism if we actually saw the sequence of events rather than a snapshot.

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i agree in most cases, but not this one IMO

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Originally Posted by desaintsno.12

i agree in most cases, but not this one IMO

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I haven't seen it on screen and at the match it just looked like a bunch of guys jostling around so I wasn't focused on any particular person. I'm not sating it wasn't an eye gouge but the original post should have an accompanying video rather than a photo as evidence.

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Originally Posted by disgruntled

Come off it Dodge. That's a terrible thing to do to anyone.

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I didn't say anything about Shiels.

Loads of players try to con refs. That's not the fault of refs

Your issue here should be with Shiels, not Rogers

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Originally Posted by disgruntled

I suppose after Anthony Buttimer, Rodgers must look like Collina :o
If anyone had got seriously hurt it would have been down to the referee for failing to controls the players.

A mate sent me this photo this morning. He said it appeared on the Cork City forum.
If you look you'll see exactly what I mean. Six officials & they still can't see anything :rolleyes:

Eye gouging.
I thought this sort of behavior only happened in Rugby ?

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You're some man for the photos! I bet there are at least 20 stills in the game of tackles, jostling etc. that look awful. For instance I would bet a still of the elbow on Shields looks pretty bad but I doubt you'll be sticking that up to provide some balance.

I didn't see too many players complaining about the incident during or after the game and you would think something like that would be hot topic.

I'll say it again, just try and enjoy your win....

I'm not gonna get into an argument on this and photos don't tell the whole story, but there's never a reason for a players fingers to be anywhere near another players face.

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

I'm not gonna get into an argument on this and photos don't tell the whole story, but there's never a reason for a players fingers to be anywhere near another players face.

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Did he put up his hand or was he going to hold Beattie back and the guy holding Finn back unintentionally force his hand up while trying to push Beattie back too? One photo does not tell the story in this case. It's just speculation that Shields deliberately caught him in the face.

That is possible but it seems like a stretch. Shields is a good player but don't fall into the trap of defending someone because they wear your colours. You see this all the time with Man United and Liverpool fans. It doesn't matter to them what the action is but what team the player is from.

Apparently theres another photo of a City player doing the same. I haven't seen it but if there is I won't defend him either. I won't necessary vilify either player but again there is no excuse for having your fingers near someones eyes.

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

I'll say it again, just try and enjoy your win....

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Some lads are too consumed with resentment to enjoy winning the cup.

The moment will have passed and they'll regret it.

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Apparently theres another photo of a City player doing the same.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Big_Shiel...848000/photo/1

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Originally Posted by White Horse

Some lads are too consumed with resentment to enjoy winning the cup.

The moment will have passed and they'll regret it.

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I for one am fully enjoying winning the cup. Watched the goal back countless times. I have zero issues with dundalk or anything that might've happened that day.

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Originally Posted by patrickccfc

I for one am fully enjoying winning the cup. Watched the goal back countless times.

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I didn't doubt that for a moment. ;)

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Originally Posted by patrickccfc

https://mobile.twitter.com/Big_Shiel...848000/photo/1

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Is Beattie out of hospital yet after that one? I think this is a perfect illustration of the perils of taking a still and drawing a story from it. If Shields' one looks bad you could argue the Cork lad on Finn looks worse. Sure he's clearly levering against Finn's face to get better purchase on the gouge!

While we're at it here's Dane Massey buggering poor Karl Sheppard. Gotta be a yellow card at least

https://www.flickr.com/photos/extrat...in/dateposted/

I think Beattie could shove his eye back in place properly, focus it a bit and get on with the game.

These Cork lads/lassies on here whine when they lose and whine just as much when they win and all done with a Cork accent.

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

That is possible but it seems like a stretch. Shields is a good player but don't fall into the trap of defending someone because they wear your colours. You see this all the time with Man United and Liverpool fans. It doesn't matter to them what the action is but what team the player is from.

Apparently theres another photo of a City player doing the same. I haven't seen it but if there is I won't defend him either. I won't necessary vilify either player but again there is no excuse for having your fingers near someones eyes.

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I'll defend both of them so, clearly neither were trying to gouge eyes and were trying to pull players out of some handbags.

Can it be put to bed now?

Even in victory it seems some Corkonians insist on being the victims.

The truth is that Rodgers & his "team" missed several incidents involving players from both teams during the match.
I look forward to the comments of some of you when you get Rodgers at some of your games next season.
I'm sure I'll be able to refer back to this thread at that time :)
Enjoy the break.

Believe it or not Rogers has reffed all our teams, often badly.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Believe it or not Rogers has reffed all our teams, often badly.

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Of course he has Charlie but my initial post was that he had a very poor game.
I didn't say he was poor for City or Dundalk, I simply said he was poor.
We have seen photos of incidents involving players from both sides which he & his "assistants" missed & I'm sure everyone saw the incident between Bennett & Kilduff.
I know its only a football forum but people often seem to want to read into posts something which isn't there.
Maybe its the tint of the glasses that some wear :D

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Originally Posted by disgruntled

Of course he has Charlie but my initial post was that he had a very poor game.
I didn't say he was poor for City or Dundalk, I simply said he was poor.
We have seen photos of incidents involving players from both sides which he & his "assistants" missed & I'm sure everyone saw the incident between Bennett & Kilduff.
I know its only a football forum but people often seem to want to read into posts something which isn't there.
Maybe its the tint of the glasses that some wear :D

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You forgot to add "and into a photo of one split-second of time without seeing the sequence leading up to it" ;)

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Originally Posted by GCdfc

You forgot to add "and into a photo of one split-second of time without seeing the sequence leading up to it" ;)

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Na I'll leave that to you 😊