Vision for the Future

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26/01/2005, 9:18 PM
Buller

Vision for the Future

Setanta All-Ireland Premier League (2010)
1. Shamrock Rovers; Tallaght Park 10,000 All-Seater Covered
2. Shelbourne; Donnabate 8,000 All-Seater Covered
3. Cork City; Turners Cross 7,500 All-Seater Covered
4. Portadown; Shamrock Park 3,750 Seats Covered
5. Linfield; Winsor Park 18,000 All-Seater Covered
6. Bohemians; Pat the Baker Park 9,000 Seats (Name Rights Sold)
7. Longford T; Flancare Park 5,500 All-Seater Covered
8. Glentoran; The Oval 2,600 Seats
9. Derry City; Brandywell 6,000 All-Seater Covered
10. Coleraine; Shampoo Lane
11. Ards; ****ywell
12. Limavady United; Kip Park

Eircom League 1 (2010)
1. Finn Harps; Finn Park 6,600 All-Seater Covered
2. St. Pats; Richmond Park 5,500 Seats Covered
3. Sligo Rovers; The Showgrounds; 5,000 All-Seater Covered
4. Drogheda; Stad de Meath; 6,000 All-Seater Covered
5. Athlone T; New St. Mels; 5,000 All Seater Covered
6. Waterford Utd; RSC 5,000 Seats Covered
7. Limerick; New Stadium; 7,000 All-Seater Covered
8. Bray Wanders; Carl Grounds; 2,500 Seats Covered
9. Galway Utd; Terryland; 4,500 Seats Covered (2stands)
10.Kilkenny City; Buckley Park; 3,200 All-Seater Covered
+ rest�
26/01/2005, 9:21 PM
Buller

well, opinions?!
26/01/2005, 9:25 PM
thecorner

looking for opinions after only 3 minutes...typical rovers fan wants everything done straight away.................except for a stadium :D :D
26/01/2005, 9:30 PM
joeraki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buller

well, opinions?!

Yes. Your stone mad :rolleyes:
26/01/2005, 9:32 PM
Buller

i had too make exceptions... I cudnt fit all the Ni teams in...
26/01/2005, 9:34 PM
Buller

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeraki

Yes. Your stone mad :rolleyes:

Stoned maybe, mad never! muahahahahaha
26/01/2005, 9:53 PM
Dazzy

Your mad if you reckon we will have a 6000+ seater all seater by 2010 :o we will probally still have half a ground. ****ing council!!!!!!!!
26/01/2005, 10:06 PM
1 9 2 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buller

Setanta All-Ireland Premier League (2010)
1. Shamrock Rovers; Tallaght Park 10,000 All-Seater Covered
2. Shelbourne; Donnabate 8,000 All-Seater Covered
3. Cork City; Turners Cross 7,500 All-Seater Covered
4. Portadown; Shamrock Park 3,750 Seats Covered
5. Linfield; Winsor Park 18,000 All-Seater Covered
6. Bohemians; Pat the Baker Park 9,000 Seats (Name Rights Sold)
7. Longford T; Flancare Park 5,500 All-Seater Covered
8. Glentoran; The Oval 2,600 Seats
9. Derry City; Brandywell 6,000 All-Seater Covered
10. Coleraine; Shampoo Lane
11. Ards; ****ywell
12. Limavady United; Kip Park

Eircom League 1 (2010)
1. Finn Harps; Finn Park 6,600 All-Seater Covered
2. St. Pats; Richmond Park 5,500 Seats Covered
3. Sligo Rovers; The Showgrounds; 5,000 All-Seater Covered
4. Drogheda; Stad de Meath; 6,000 All-Seater Covered
5. Athlone T; New St. Mels; 5,000 All Seater Covered
6. Waterford Utd; RSC 5,000 Seats Covered
7. Limerick; New Stadium; 7,000 All-Seater Covered
8. Bray Wanders; Carl Grounds; 2,500 Seats Covered
9. Galway Utd; Terryland; 4,500 Seats Covered (2stands)
10.Kilkenny City; Buckley Park; 3,200 All-Seater Covered
+ rest�

You mean

Setanta All-Ireland Premier League (2010)
1. Sligo Rovers; The Showgrounds; 5,000 All-Seater Covered
2. Shelbourne; Donnabate 8,000 All-Seater Covered
3. Cork City; Turners Cross 7,500 All-Seater Covered
4. Portadown; Shamrock Park 3,750 Seats Covered
5. Linfield; Winsor Park 18,000 All-Seater Covered
6. Bohemians; Pat the Baker Park 9,000 Seats (Name Rights Sold)
7. Longford T; Flancare Park 5,500 All-Seater Covered
8. Glentoran; The Oval 2,600 Seats
9. Derry City; Brandywell 6,000 All-Seater Covered
10. Coleraine; Shampoo Lane
11. Ards; ****ywell
12. Limavady United; Kip Park

Eircom League 1 (2010)
1. Finn Harps; Finn Park 6,600 All-Seater Covered
2. St. Pats; Richmond Park 5,500 Seats Covered
3. Shams; Stad de Meath; 6,000 All-Seater Covered
4. Drogheda; Stad de Meath; 6,000 All-Seater Covered
5. Athlone T; New St. Mels; 5,000 All Seater Covered
6. Waterford Utd; RSC 5,000 Seats Covered
7. Limerick; New Stadium; 7,000 All-Seater Covered
8. Bray Wanders; Carl Grounds; 2,500 Seats Covered
9. Galway Utd; Terryland; 4,500 Seats Covered (2stands)
10.Kilkenny City; Buckley Park; 3,200 All-Seater Covered
+ rest
:D
26/01/2005, 10:32 PM
A face

I think everyone would agree that it is not that far out of those clubs reach, it might not happen but they are realistic ..... but i would have put Cork City FC at 10-12,000 all-seater to be honest !! ;)
27/01/2005, 12:43 AM
BobtheDrog

last i heard the drogs stadium will be a 10000 all seater with space for expansion also think we wud be in the top division
27/01/2005, 3:15 AM
thecorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

last i heard the drogs stadium will be a 10000 all seater with space for expansion

lots of empty seats then ;)
27/01/2005, 7:34 AM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buller

well, opinions?!

Pat the Baker Park - why the fook would a Longford Company be sponsoring them? Also, thought Glens were moving to a new all seater stadium?

While I hope for an all ireland league, I really hope it's 16 or preferably 18 clubs in the top flight....
27/01/2005, 12:15 PM
holidaysong

There seems to be a lack of Dundalk FC in 2010...
27/01/2005, 12:20 PM
pete

Heres a question - what club is most likely to get to those stadiums liosted above quickest?
27/01/2005, 12:36 PM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

Heres a question - what club is most likely to get to those stadiums liosted above quickest?

Out of new grounds? Harps or Athlone. The one's run by the fans....
27/01/2005, 4:43 PM
joeraki

Quote:

Originally Posted by holidaysong

There seems to be a lack of Dundalk FC in 2010...

There seems to be a lack of Dundalk FC in 2005 never mind 2010 !!

Shamrock Rovers lasting till 2010, wonder what odds you'd get in the bookies for that !
27/01/2005, 5:20 PM
Buller

"Pat the Baker Park - why the fook would a Longford Company be sponsoring them?"
Its a joke!
29/01/2005, 10:39 PM
Buller

http://www.gapsring.co.uk/phpBB2/files/sham-talaght.jpg
29/01/2005, 11:05 PM
TheJamaicanP.M.

Whatever about any of the other clubs meeting those targets, Shamrock Rovers will be doing well to still be in existence, never mind having a ground of their own.
29/01/2005, 11:16 PM
GalwayFrancis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buller

http://www.gapsring.co.uk/phpBB2/files/sham-talaght.jpg

the aritst who painted that impression of the stadium must have been smoking happy tabaccie :D. cause i cant imagine the shams having a stadium so beautiful
31/01/2005, 1:49 PM
observer

it may not be a joke Buller. After all your committee are very fond of dough and possibly they are using their collective loaf and see Pat The Baker as a source of much needed bread for the club. I am sure that if Longford Town buttered Pat up a little they could get a slice of the action as well. :D
31/01/2005, 1:58 PM
Clones Road Cas

Limavady????

Not feckin likely.

Like the idea though. Would be nice for us border teams to get a few more derby's in the year.

Monaghan
1500 seater stadium
400 herd barn
But
The Best Bar in the league

:D
The Casual
31/01/2005, 2:56 PM
gael353

covered

i like what your saying buller and i love your optimism. But im afraid that the football clubs might go down the GAA route and build "uncovered stands" as they like to call them. Cork city tried it the annes rd end and i havent heard one city fan say they love it. Longford have a fine stand but the rest of the ground is uncovered and i dont care i know we play summer football but ******x it i always seem to be cold and wet at all these uncovered arenas in the midst of our fine heatwaves. I only hope that Limerick dont go down the "uncovered stand" :o
31/01/2005, 7:11 PM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by gael353

Cork city tried it the annes rd end and i havent heard one city fan say they love it.

When the roof on it is built .... it'll be unreal !! :D

And with the shedend getting a face lift then it will be our new home !! :p
31/01/2005, 7:15 PM
harry crumb

We will definately have the best ground in the ground in the league then. And the fact that there will be people in the seats will make it even better.
31/01/2005, 7:20 PM
dortie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buller

Setanta All-Ireland Premier League (2010)
1. Shamrock Rovers; Tallaght Park 10,000 All-Seater Covered
2. Shelbourne; Donnabate 8,000 All-Seater Covered
3. Cork City; Turners Cross 7,500 All-Seater Covered
4. Portadown; Shamrock Park 3,750 Seats Covered
5. Linfield; Winsor Park 18,000 All-Seater Covered
6. Bohemians; Pat the Baker Park 9,000 Seats (Name Rights Sold)
7. Longford T; Flancare Park 5,500 All-Seater Covered
8. Glentoran; The Oval 2,600 Seats
9. Derry City; Brandywell 6,000 All-Seater Covered
10. Coleraine; Shampoo Lane
11. Ards; ****ywell
12. Limavady United; Kip Park

Eircom League 1 (2010)
1. Finn Harps; Finn Park 6,600 All-Seater Covered
2. St. Pats; Richmond Park 5,500 Seats Covered
3. Sligo Rovers; The Showgrounds; 5,000 All-Seater Covered
4. Drogheda; Stad de Meath; 6,000 All-Seater Covered
5. Athlone T; New St. Mels; 5,000 All Seater Covered
6. Waterford Utd; RSC 5,000 Seats Covered
7. Limerick; New Stadium; 7,000 All-Seater Covered
8. Bray Wanders; Carl Grounds; 2,500 Seats Covered
9. Galway Utd; Terryland; 4,500 Seats Covered (2stands)
10.Kilkenny City; Buckley Park; 3,200 All-Seater Covered
+ rest…

Was looking ok to me until I read your First Division list....Off your fecking rocker !
01/02/2005, 7:51 AM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by gael353

Longford have a fine stand but the rest of the ground is uncovered and i dont care i know we play summer football but ******x it i always seem to be cold and wet at all these uncovered arenas in the midst of our fine heatwaves. I only hope that Limerick dont go down the "uncovered stand" :o

Longford do have plans to cover the rest of the ground. If we were waiting for Government support Flancare would still be mud banks....
01/02/2005, 5:49 PM
BohsFans

It's because of your ****in holding company that the rest of us who qualified for Europe could get that money 2 years ago.
We could have used that �625,000, so where did Longford get that money 2 tear down half their ground and rebuild it? Also the main stand in Flancare is ****e, we had to go there when they were working on the rest of the ground and you can't see a thing, I'd nearly say there's more poles there than in the Riverside in Tolka!
01/02/2005, 7:20 PM
BohDiddley

Quote:

Originally Posted by BohsFans

It's because of your ****in holding company that the rest of us who qualified for Europe could get that money 2 years ago.
We could have used that �625,000, so where did Longford get that money 2 tear down half their ground and rebuild it? Also the main stand in Flancare is ****e, we had to go there when they were working on the rest of the ground and you can't see a thing, I'd nearly say there's more poles there than in the Riverside in Tolka!

Don't slag the Riverside. I like it there! ;)
02/02/2005, 3:05 PM
Buller

Quote:

Originally Posted by dortie

Was looking ok to me until I read your First Division list....Off your fecking rocker!

How exactly? Most first div clubs hav these plans already!! eg sligo
02/02/2005, 3:12 PM
4tothefloor

Limerick still in Division 1 by 2010.......Hope not!
02/02/2005, 3:16 PM
Longfordian

Quote:

Originally Posted by BohsFans

It's because of your ****in holding company that the rest of us who qualified for Europe could get that money 2 years ago.
We could have used that �625,000, so where did Longford get that money 2 tear down half their ground and rebuild it? Also the main stand in Flancare is ****e, we had to go there when they were working on the rest of the ground and you can't see a thing, I'd nearly say there's more poles there than in the Riverside in Tolka!

That money came out of our cashflow for the season and it's been a major struggle finding it, some of it is still owing to the contractors, who are being very patient, we've been approved for grant aid on it but it hasn't come through yet..and it wasn't just us and our 'f*ckin holdin company'that held up your grant, that was a minor delay, try looking at previous abuses of grants by local rivals of yours and also soon to be tenants. You could have used that money, how exactly? I don't see any plans for capital development in Dalymount, and you can't use it for anything else..
02/02/2005, 3:19 PM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by BohsFans

It's because of your ****in holding company that the rest of us who qualified for Europe could get that money 2 years ago.

And that was sorted within weeks, so you still want to blame us for it still not coming through? :confused:

How about looking amongst the "big 4" for the club(s) using grant money for wages? That's what's still holding up grants, not what was and wasn't supplied to the CRO by our holding company....
02/02/2005, 3:38 PM
wws

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macy

How about looking amongst the "big 4" for the club(s) using grant money for wages? That's what's still holding up grants, not what was and wasn't supplied to the CRO by our holding company....

thats fcking BS! WE'VE A GRANT (APPROVED! OF 1 MILLION EURO!) WE VE HAD IT FOR YEARS - AND CANT TOUCH A SINGLE PENNY!

i reckon if we were even in the position of raising the local fund element (sumtin like 20% in disadvantaged areas like the area pats ground is in) it would mysteriously disappear - though they say the money is lock tight !

the fai are at fault for every problem to do with grants cause the sports dept simply let them get on with it as the conduit between the clubs and the dept

it gets on my nerves should simply be a case of - you got plans - yeah - you got PP yeah - you got a grant - yeah - well than build it
02/02/2005, 3:42 PM
Longfordian

As far as im aware it wasn't Pats that were holding things up, now maybe it's just another excuse but it seems that certainly Rovers have drawn down money and not used it for capital expenditure
02/02/2005, 3:50 PM
wws

I actually think the grant aid - and lack thereof is the single biggest problem in this league

with no direct state aid package and plan in place brokered and tailored by a strong FAI nearly all the laudable efforts of the clubs are in vain

I seriously think LOI is just pi$$ing in the wind until the address basic infrastructure - the starting block of any serious product

its a fine minority sport for die hards like us but it will never be a viable proposition until there is grant aid channeled into clubs
02/02/2005, 4:18 PM
gufct

Whats holding up the money

is the way previous grant aid was administered by the FAI and spent by certain clubs to pay their day to day running expenses.There is a Dept. of Sport investigation into this and the FAI have to appear before the Dail Public Accounts commitee in relation to this and other matters.

John Delaney tried to put the total blame on the clubs after the licensing failure last week but this is as much an FAI Problem as an EL Problem.This was one of the main reasons John O'Donoghue Baulked at Delaney and his sidekick Peter Buckley being installed as CEO and Financial Officer and why he is also insisting that the FAI dont have a majority on the imterview board for these jobs.

There are also a number of clubs who have not drawn down money previously granted to them due to a number of areas which they have not met the criteria including having money of their own to match the funding they are receiving.
02/02/2005, 4:36 PM
wws

yes gufct

and that matching funds will never be in place from LOI clubs - because LOI football is not a capital raising business - its a loss maker

until they change the policy - a la the favoured terms given to GAA LOI clubs will never be able to use funding to any substantial effect

everything else you say is spot on
08/02/2005, 1:17 PM
Buller

Check out this pic i edited...
http://www.gapsring.co.uk/phpBB2/fil...ross_stand.jpg
Is it really so far away?! Imagine this stand with a roof!
Now that would be a stand to be proud...