Presume Dundalk have the highest
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Presume Dundalk have the highest
Definitely won't be Shamrock Rovers. They'll only be fourth highest again.
With two consecutive years of Champions league money i'd guess they would. However, with them trying to sort out their lease situation over the winter (and hopefully planning some redevelopment in Oriel) as well as laying a new pitch i doubt they'll have a whole lot more cash than Cork or Rovers.
Rumours here seem to be suggesting that Bray will bring in quite a few new players (many on 2 yr deals) so they must have had an influx of cash recently.
If we manage to keep Towell and Horgan, it will probably be the highest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukejennings99
Harps going professional again after our brilliant experience of it in 2008 where we not only stayed up but we won the league and the following year we won the Champions league.....
Pretty sure that's how it went anyway, I mean, what could have possibly went wrong??
My team has less money than your team
Limericks budget has been set at twenty grand (five grand of that is for Freddie Hall as his contract states he must be paid more than Finn Harps). First Division teams are always cribbing about costs I think a good solution next season would be to give walkovers rather than travel to the Markets Field. Two weeks wages and travel expenses spared.
I've nothing to confirm our budget will be increasing but my feeling is that it may increase slightly.
Oh no you haven't. Pats players are actually going to be paying subs to the club next season :)Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
(Thinks of that old Monty Python sketch !)
Is it reasonable to think that Kelleher had been planning to scale back his contribution at Pats for a while now and was just waiting for the scholarship partnership with NUI Maynooth to start bearing fruit before he did so?Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Now that players like Hoare, McGrath and O'Malley are capable of being reliable starters maybe he feels he can cut back a bit on the players with big wages and allow the scholarship lads to still keep the club challenging for Europe.
If so, it was a nice piece of contingency planning.
We're getting richer by the year.
Talk of shamrock rovers getting in major investors, 4/5 people have said
Dunno about that. To be honest Kelleher seems to have spent some silly money on players when he came in first, but that's way in the past at this stage. Even the title winning budget I wouldn't say was too extravagant - though I'm sure it was decent. The squad was a bit thin last year, lots of young lads on the bench at times. Hoare, Desmond.McgGrath and O'Malley are quality, the other lads I'm not so sure. Young lad Daragh Markey is talented according to reports, but looks tiny. I think the plan certainly seems to be to try and bring through as many young lads as we can. Need an experienced backbone to keep competitive though. Desmond, Hoare and maybe McGrath probably won't be with us for too long sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Pm'd youQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukejennings99
I think Pats' trouble was that when you win the league, your players justifiably want more money to sign back, so even standing still starts costing more money unless you're replacing people with similar players on lower wages. Title-winning season might not have been extravagant but maintaining that year-on-year is a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
That's exactly what happened. Same players but higher wages. Budget stayed the same (roughly) so instead of quality squad players we had some iffy ones and the youngsters
FWIW O'Malley isn't on a football scholarship in Maynooth. McGrath, Markey, Bayly & Rooney are the 4 on the Pats scholarship now that Hoare has graduated
I'm gonna pm you tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Bawnville Hoop
What did the fifth lad say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukejennings99
On the subject of budgets, what teams will be full-time next yr?
I know Dundalk, Cork and Shams are full time for sure, but who else? Are Sligo (still) and Pats full-time?
My guess is that outside those 5 everyone else is totally part-time and training in the evenings??
Your definition of full-time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Training during the day four or five days a week with most players having no second job?
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Are Dundalk full time? David McMillan works as an architect in Dublin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31131166.html
Towell works in a gym.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Massey is an electrician.
O'Donnell is a coach in DKIT.
I'm sure there are others too.
I think we must be more part time than even Rovers.
#GreatestLeagueInTheWorldQuote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
OK maybe "full-time" wasn't the best term to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I'll ask it a different way: What teams train during the morning/afternoon, and who trains in the evenings/night?
My guess is that Dundalk, Cork, Shams, and possibly Sligo and Pats train in the day, while the other clubs would all train in the evenings. Can anyone confirm?
Longford train twice a week in the evenings in Lexlip and then usually have a recovery session on Sunday's.
We train in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Galway also train in the morning/day. I know few of them work in a sport shop, another drives a taxi, some students in the squad also. Anyone would estimate the number of LoI players who get 100% of their income from their club? 100 maybe with another 200 getting more than 50%?
I saw it somewhere a few months ago that the average LOI prem division player earned 16k this yr. So if we take it that an average player in a mid table premier team earns 16k per yr (that's 380 (pre tax) p/w of a 42 wk contract), i'd estimate that guys starting for the top 3/4 clubs would prob be on about 600/700 p/w with the best (Towell/Horgan/Sheppard etc) on about 800-1K p/w. Remember all these numbers are pre tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Lads above have confirmed that a few of the top Dundalk players also work part time.
Be paying very little tax on that kind of money anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Massey recently took at least a year out from his electrician role in Jervis, Towell used to work part time in a gym, think owned by a mate, Gartland is a basket ball coach, O'Donnell only recently got that DKIT role, think McMillan is the only one doing a full time job, well I read last season he works 3.5 days. I'm sure almost all of the squad trained in Dundalk daytime, 5 days a week, grass pitch for away games, oriel for home games.Quote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
All of above was in various DFC programme articles during the season.
Yeap saw all them jobs mentioned in various articles in newspapers/programmes/websites/etc. but Dundalk train in the evenings. I live right beside Oriel and play five a side some evenings in the Oriel Active Centre behind Oriel and you see the players training either (as you mentioned) on the grass training pitch on the Carrick side of Oriel that the Grammar school own or on the main pitch for home matches. The players, especially the ones who live locally and don't have other jobs, would also do a lot of gym work in the town during the day as you would see them in the various gyms around Dundalk - mainly Felda these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
The movement of players in recent seasons would indicate that Shamrock R would have a bigger budget than St Pats. Also the Players rep organisation said last year that 1k a week contracts were back in the LoI, maybe a small number, but still significant when one considers the attendance these players/clubs attract. While Stephen Kenny has bucked the trend; level of wages paid decides where a team finished in the league.
They're on more than that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Yeah, they train in the evenings and do their gym work during the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinney
No they're not. I have it from a reliable source in Dundalk that Towell is on 1,100 p/w, but he's the outstanding player in the league by a distance (and he'll likely be gone v soon), hence why i gave the 800-1k figure as a ballpark for the leagues best players. i doubt there are many others in the league earning upwards of 1k p/w. Maybe a couple at Cork/Rovers but that'd be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by L.T.F.C.
I'd say at a push there are 4 players on 1k or more. The next down would be the players with the top few teams maybe on between 500-750. Dropping all the time then the lower down the league you go and into the first division.
I heard that the Wexford Youths players only got paid expenses last year. I'd assume that's the case with all first division teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Thanks Oriel. The article linked above from the Indo says McMillan works 20 hrs a week (2.5 days).Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel