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Just a quick word on jon macken here. am i the only person who is failing to see what Brian Kerr and Kevin Keegan see in him. He seems to work unbelievably hard for very little reward, can run about as fast as a broken down car and seems to have as much skill as david blunkett in the kitchen. Frankly he seems to be a journeyman who should be nowhere near the international scene!
No, he was utterly hopeless today as he has been every time I've watched him play. He shouldn't be near our squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
Hes f*ckin class!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
how many strikers do we have and dont start talking about EL players.....
He's done absolutley nothing in his career to justify being in our squad. Keane, Morrison and even Lee and Connolly have all done more to warrent inclusion. He is useless, his premiership record is absolutley appaling.Quote:
Originally Posted by barglee
he cant run with the ball. he cant play intelligent passes, he aint a predator , in fact , he aint a goalscorer. was banging the goals in for preston in lower division, but then again richie foran bangs the goals in at lower levels, as does david connolly. none of them are capable. there is no need to talk about what other strikers we have. its a safe bet that he aint gona be in the next squad with s.reid fit now and mcgeady looking a player.
he's English. not irish even if he is class(which he aint)Quote:
Originally Posted by barglee
Well Pablo, whatever you think on the subject, me old son, he qualifies for Ireland under FIFA rules as well you know. Which makes him Irish, does it not? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
:ball: PP
Well he has certainly done more than Lee and has matched Morrison's "achievements".Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Hes not up to much doesn't have any pace, but I'd have him in the squad ahead of Connolly or Leeat least he's struggling in the premiership not the 1st.
There's a 3 page thread on McGeady yet I didn't see you posting about him being Scottish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
I wouldn't question McGeadys Irish status. He actively chose to play for Ireland while being wooed by Scotland. Macken seems to have had a sudden change of heart as his options dwindled as did Clinton Morrisson.
McGeady is no more Irish than Macken.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbySands
I had first begun playing for Ireland at schoolboy level. I had wanted to play for Scotland schoolboys when I was 15 but because Celtic didn't let you play for your school, it meant I was not eligible to play for Scotland schoolboys. I thought, 'Fair enough'. Then Packie Bonner phoned me up and asked if I was interested in going across to Ireland for training because he knew my grandparents on my dad's side were Irish. We had a practice match, I did quite well, and ever since then I have been involved in the Irish international set-up.
I played for the Under-15s, Under-16s, Under-17s, Under-19s and then the first team. The Irish do let players play for their schoolboy team even if they are not playing for a school in Ireland because a lot of their young players of schoolboy age have already moved over to England. I was always going to play for Ireland rather than Scotland at full international level, if chosen, because by the time I was capped I had already been part of the Irish set-up for around two years.
He also said he felt he has more of a chance of playing in a World Cup with Ireland.
I stand corrected. *hangs head in shame*.
Regardless of whether McGeady or Macken are Irish or not, I think it is important to remember that both players, in fact all players who play for Ireland are invited to do so. So if you have a problem with them playing for Ireland direct your criticisms towards the FAI and the management which selects them.
He certinaly has not matched Morrisons achievements or even bloody close. Morrison had more premiership goals in his first four games in the league than Mackens managed in his career. Morrison has also proven himself at international level, okay Mackens not had a chance but he's done absolutley nothing to warrent a chance. Lee at least is a big tall targetman, so he has something, I've honestly no idea what Macken is supposed to be good at as he's looked equally woeful at every aspect of his game when I've seen him and his goals record backs that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
And I forgot Elliot, can't believe I forgot Elliot. Set records for his goals at under age level, doing brilliant in the first division and looked good on his debut, he's another who should be ahead of Macken in the pecking order.
Macken equalled Morrison's goal/game ratio in division 1 (Morrison was first capped when he was playing in division 1). Maybe his injuries have ruined his career though, I don't know.
Well it looks that way, if he was once a good player he isn't anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
the only good ting about Macken is that Kerr almost never plays him even in friendlies.
It is better to be able to have him and not want him than to want him and not be able to have him... :)
I still don't want him :DQuote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
well if having an irish wolfhound and drinking guiness makes him irish that fair play to him :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
thats just stupid. i belive steven gerrard could have played for ireland too as well as half the current english squad.
Lax rules by the games governing body does not make someone Irish
Yeah, Steven Gerrard's cousin Anthony plays for us at underage level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
well can anyone disagree with me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
FFS the thread is not about mackens nationality. you will be jumping up n down spillin guinness down ur shirt the next time morrisson hits the back of the net so ya can ease up!!!!
I saw he kicked that ball forward too. Maybe he thought he was facing his own goal & going for back pass?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
So unfortunate he is retired.... ;)
I think Gerrard is a class act too and his goal was brilliantly taken. However I took issue with some of the press reports on Thursday applauding his leadership. One paper said it was up there with Roy Keane's leadership in Turin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
Didn't they notice a dangerous tackle and a deliberate kick at an apponent that could each have earned him a straight red? In fact in an international tournament I reckon he'd have been in trouble.
Doesn't Ireland have a cousin of Gerrard's in the underage set-up? Is it the guy mentioned above? Is Darren Potter related to him?
His cousin Anthony Gerrard has thrown his hat in with us and is on the books at Everton as far as i know.