just reported on rte news that she was killed by hostage takers in iraq
not confirmed
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just reported on rte news that she was killed by hostage takers in iraq
not confirmed
her husband has asked for confirmation but it seems to be true
despicable if its true.
Seems to be true (BBC)
Sad, sad news… I think we all feared this might happen as soon as the first news of her capture broke, but harboured hopes, however slim, that she might survive.
shows how hard these "men" really are :rolleyes:
RIP Margaret, heartless scum who take the life of a woman who spent 30 years looking after their sick and poor, at this stage nothing could shock me the world and morals have changed so much this 3-4 years.
was listening to coverage on 5live last night- apparently even Al Zarqawi said she should be released as she was a friend of the Iraqi people.
I heard on the news yesterday that the Marines found a body of a western female with no arms,no legs and the face disfigured,could this be her?,RIP Margaret
No, that wasn't her. That was a blonde woman who is yet to be identified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin12
^ yeah I heard on the Radio they think that might be the Polish woman who went missing a couple of weeks back. Pretty disgusting stuff, mutilating someone like that.
A Mass has been held in County Kerry this morning for Irish-born aid worker Margaret Hassan.Her apparent death at the hands of Iraqi kidnappers has drawn condemnation from around the world.
Mrs Hassan was remembered in a special Mass in the Roman Catholic church in Kenmare in the southwest of Ireland.
The 59-year-old's sister Geraldine Riney lives in the area.
Local curate Father Edmund Corridan said Mrs Hassan was an "indescribable loss".
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041117/140/f6s7d.html
Why do they call her British?, She was Irish for Christ's sake
RIP Margaret
DOn't know what the scum hoped to gain by it....certainly hasn't done 'their' people ANY favours :(
She was actually out there to help them ffs. Spineless c*nts.
RIP
Truely appalling news, such a pointless and mindless act, I wonder what
the people who killed her expect to gain from her death, certaintly not
support for their 'cause'.
Apparently an Arab media outlet did a poll which had 70% against and 30%
in favour (or whatever) of her killing.
My own personal view is that the TV footage of American soldiers shooting
wounded Iraqi fighters who apparently didn't pose a threat probably
sealed her fate.
Still a terrible crime to kill someone who devoted her life to caring for
the Iraqi people, these people would probably have no qualms shooting
there own mothers.
Sickening.
Don't believe everything you see on TV. Could well be right, though, To be honest, these guys are not the type who are ever going to listen to reasoning. How could they bring themselves to do it. It sickens me right to my stomach, it really does...Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
could be. certainly won't have helped. althought the fact that al zarqawi said she should be freed points to it being a criminal gang. there was a great comment from an iraqi interviewed on th news a while ago. he said " these people call themselves the opposition. where were they when saddam was in charge."Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Well presumable they were either working for Saddam's regime or in oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
of his jails (which he had emptied when the country was invaded).
I wondered whether it was Al Zarqawi who held her all the time?
They may have realised it would be bad publicity to harm here and
so made out they were another group. Probably pretty unlikely considering,
but it was a thought which crossed my mind.
However they did not demand money rather the troops to be pulled out etc..
I still cannot see what they think they have gained from this it just
portrays them as less than human.
More support form sub-humans no doubt?
I know it's fcuk all consolation to her or her family now but at least they shot here and made it quick because i've had the seen clips of the beheadings of Bigley and the american soldiers and it was horrific,supposedly was forty minutes before the 'insurgents' finished with them,sick.
No western looking person is safe in Iraq now.I wouldn't go there for all the money in the world.
true.Quote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
as for what tricky_colour said- I think if the group had wanted to release her, they could have found a way.
Its a shame some people thought they would be safe because they were
Irish, these people willl kill anyone.
I can understand how they could kill someone working for the
security forces but not a charity worker, thats just incomprehensible.
But is not what I said, I don't know where you got that impression from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
They didn't want to release her, I don't know where you got that idea from.
(Typical manager?)
Its disgusting what happened to her. I think two things sealed her fate - (1) she was a British citizen and (2) apparently she was being held captive in Fallujah which was being attacked at the time. The screening of the injured iraqi being shot dead by an american soldier didnt help. Also, if reports out of Fallujah are true apparently its just the tip of the iceberg. Five seven live reported mass executions by the americans, the dumping of bodies into the Euphrates and the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with phosporus and cluster bombs.
sorry, I didn't put that very well. you saidQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
and what I meant to say was, that if they had realised it was publicity, they could have released her, rather than killing her if they wanted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Maybe they wanted to punish him for escaping first! Still not right obviouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
30% wanting her dead is shockingly highQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
absolutely. can't figure how any right-thinking individual would think like that. i guess war messes with peoples heads, and right and wrong become confused. but still, 30% :confused: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
I am not sure if that is how you should read it, if I recall correctly (afterQuote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
seeing it for a second time) 70% condemed it, thats doesn't mean
the other 30% condoned it (necessarilly) I mean after all the real
'bad gay' Al Zarqawi said she should be freed ( although that may have
been a form of propaganda, although I now doubt it).
I wonder how many Americans would condem the shooting of the
defenseless wounded in a poll? Not very many I would imagine.
Or take an example from Northern Ireland, where the word regret is used
rather than condemnation.
Having said that it was a truely evil act which ever way you look at it,
and I hope I do not sound as if I am excusing it, it is utterly
inexcusable vile act comitted by what must truely be the scum of the
earth.
I hope the guys who did it don't have any martyrdom missions
planned cos they will be going straight to hell when they die, there
is no doubt about that.
Yes I see your point, I guess Al Zarqawi did not kidnap her (as I conjected)Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
anyway.
I suspect those who did killed her were mentally ill criminals released
from Saddams jails, I don't know if that would make anyone feel any
better about it.
It does seem clear from the earlier videos that she realised she was
in the hands of some really sick people.
It is very sad indeed. I hope the people who did it are now dead, it
is hard to imagine anyone who would harbour such people.
The proportion of misguided heartless fools is about the same evrywhere ....... sadly! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
I think it was the same length of time for the beheading of the americans as Bigley.
If I recall an Irish reporter and cameraman have already been killed.....making Margaret the 3rd or 4th if you include Ken Bigley to be executed.....plus any Irishmen fighting in the Royal Irish Gaurds who were killed (not sure if any have been) :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
They dont need to make up a reason to kill anyone.If they want to do it, they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
I think what is alledged to have happend was someone (a less violent individual) in or associated with the kidnapping gang let/set him free on "their watch" so to speak, but he was then found by either some local criminals who handed him back over to the gang or by the rest of the gang itself and thats when they killed him. I seem to remember reading the paper on last month, local Iraqi's had said that had happened. Although I doubt if we'll ever know what exactly happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
I think at least one, a Dubliner from what I recall, has been killed in action... I think another might have died earlier on in a traffic accident at their base in Southern Iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
He was a soldier. It was a war. tough shítQuote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Yeah hard to argue with that, he wasnt a conscript so he knew the risks when he signed up.
Still an inappropiate response I thought.