http://www.theguardian.com/football/...nd-fans-chants
Oh boy..
Yeah, but what do you expect from those planks?
Most of them would struggle to find Dublin on a map, let alone know anything about Irish history or culture.
There's loads of links between them and fascists/loyalists in the North and elsewhere. Tbf, the latter make even today's uber-loyalist look pretty benign by comparison, especially in a 'football' context.
Have tickets gone on sale for the England/BNP/Combat-18 game yet?
Only by default if you have a season ticket...
yes, but only as a 3 game (poland, eng, scot) packageQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Should the FAI add a security deposit to the price of tickets sold in England? And should we get a one-goal head-start (credited, of course to David Kelly)?
Would that make David Kelly the oldest-ever player to score in an international fixture?
edit: going by this it seems it would. Wales' Billy Meredith is the holder, scoring against England aged 45 years 73 days.
ah balls. i'm not made of eurosQuote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
A mate was telling me the KO time will be 11.30am to curtail pre match drinking. Has anyone else heard this?
I think Ken Early said it but then said that he wasn't sure. 2.30 is what I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Good, I won't have to miss Mass.
That'd be a bizarre kick-off time for an international game on a Sunday. Are they expecting greater amounts of alcohol to be consumed than usual or is there a genuine fear of trouble breaking out? Do Combat 18/EDL types still follow England around in significant numbers? I thought the FA had largely managed to stamp out their influence at England games, but maybe not. You might just get a few knuckle-draggers turning up simply for the occasion rather than the game itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I had read on YBIG prior to the Scotland game that ticketless Bohs and Rovers casuals were heading over to Glasgow simply to make their presence known, but I didn't hear wind of any trouble whatsoever either before or after the game.
My mate said an 11.30am start to limit alcohol consumption before the game wouldn't work. If Poznan was anything to go by the young Irish would just stay up all night drinking. A bit like Bonnie actually.
An early KO would just deflect the problem to later in the day, or to Temple Bar the night before...
Unless their cops put a lot of banning orders in place, would expect the usual plankton to be attracted plus 1-2 of their friends from the North...
Shame for their decent fans as you know, but their songbook the other night was undoubtedly a warm-up for the main event next year.
Well I wouldn't call it "ALL" night. We had strippers in the middle and shoes to take off, for the lads at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I heard Ken Earley mention that too but saw elsewhere it was 7.45pm.
I think it would b e ridiculous having it that early as, mentioned above, town would be full of very drunk people by 4.30pm
In the space of three hours?
The potential for disorder would be around 3 hrs later, or the night before, which is far more likely...
Is it just me or does the idea of a prominent Irish football figure singing songs of a political nature in the same week as England fans revealing that their own (conflicting) political prejudices are still alive and well suggest that next June may be something other than a mutual love-in?
In fairness the story of England's chanting only broke to the public the day after the certain Irish football figure took to the mike, but still there's a public safety aspect to all this and I think some flames have been needlessly fanned.
Nope, the man is a cretin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
A million and one things will have changed next June?
Ukrap could even have a deciding vote in their govt.by then...
Mine was more a blanket statement. http://z5.ifrm.com/5902/57/0/e5001372//e5001372.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
As opposed to a protest?
The match isn't scheduled for 11.30. They haven't decided on a time yet but it's most likely going to be late afternoon.
single tickets on sale post Christmas I heard. that is if there are any left after the poles and scots get at themQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
I don't have a good feeling about this game anymore, not that I felt great to begin with.
It's too late in June and if the game had to happen, it should be after the important qualifier game, which for most of our players, is scheduled closer to pre season than end of season.
Then we have the ease at which these nut jobs can infiltrate the English support and nobody notices anything. It's hard to tell the difference between the ordinary decent union jacked english fan and an ultra right wing nutcase, the lines of demarcation are quite faint :rolleyes:
I appreciate that international qual dates and match schedule are Uefa imposed.
Not one of uefa's brighter ideas, middle of June is a ridiculous time except for those countries with many players in a summer league.
That's hardly anything new. Have to pray the Brit cops enforce a load of new banning orders, otherwise the Eng.fans may be leaving in a similar manner as '95.
Which would be daft, especially as the Guards should probably do far beforehand.
My God! Do you still live in the 80's?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
The world is a different place now than it was 20 years ago. In fairness, the English FA have cleaned up their act in regards to their hooligan problem. The Guardian is uber-PC leftie rag. It's left-wing Daily Mail now days.
There wasn't any trouble at the Wembley game and there will be little to no trouble at the Dublin game. It'll be just a few mindless Up the 'RA heads and Danny Dyer wanna be's causing trouble.
Where have I heard that before? Early in 1995 I think!
In fairness, The Guardian isn't stirring anything in this regard. England fans sing No Surrender, FAI chief sings song about Hunger Strikers on the same night. It's hardly alarmist to suggest some knuckleheads won't try and use that as an excuse to stir things up.
Is it likely there'll be trouble? No. Is it possible? Yes. Did JD's action add risk? Yes, I'd say, in a small way.
Ah, c'mon now; don't be referring to John Delaney and his pals like that. He's had enough to put up with this week!Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat
And where do you live? Naivety Central?Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat
Look at any Zombie page online and you'll soon find how they and their cronies regard Irish people in general.
Of course there is a bad bunch connect to England's fan base. All supporter groups have them sadly. But I've been on England forums and talked to England regulars and most of them are just normal blokes like most fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Hopefully lesson will be learned for both side this time around and the game can pass of peacefully. It isn't a war, it's a game.
I'd like to see more games like this. They've more edge to them than normal friendlies. I know June is an odd time as the season ends but games like this will get our players up for it rather than a meaningless friendly against Greece or Bulgaria at the of the season.
Aye, most of them are fine, but you only need 200 dicks to turn up and the Guards will quite probably be ill-prepared again. The Eng.police are generally more efficient in this matter and hopefully will stop most of them travelling.
They wouldn't charge that much if there wasn't plenty of idiots out there that will happily pay it....
Aye, which is why it's embarrassing...
There'd need to be a good helping of ice cream for dessert to justify that. Who's the guest speaker? Obama?
Your man from the Wolfe Tones.
Wullie Frazer?
Just noticed that this is the day after the CL final, which seems to be very late this year. I suppose of the English teams Chelsea are the most likely to be involved, and they don't have the number of English internationals they once had i.e. Terry, Lampard, the two Coles, etc. Off the top of my head I can only think of Gary Cahill as a significant absentee, should the situation arise. Arsenal have a string of English players at the moment but are highly unlikely to be involved and Barcelona should see of Manchester City again, on current form anyway.