UEFA Badges/Licences in Irish Football

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05/11/2013, 6:49 PM
A face

UEFA Badges/Licences in Irish Football

Folks, just wondering who has what badges within Irish Football.

Right now, we know that John Caulfield is going for his UEFA Pro Licence in Feb 2014 so he has his UEFA A Licence already.
Tommy Dunne had the managers position with City so he must have a UEFA Pro Badges as well.

Who else do we know of (that we can confirm) that has a UEFA Pro and who has a UEFA A or B at the moment?

UEFA Pro Licence Holder

2009
Brian Kerr, Noel O’Reilly, Paul Doolin, Pete Mahon, Paul Ashworth, Paul Clement, John Gill, Tony Mannion, Pat Dolan, Joe Boyle, Mike Kerley, Noel King, Packie Bonner, Pat Fenlon, Tony Cousins, Don Givens, Johnny McDonnell, Alan Mathews.

2011
Curtis Fleming, Jeff Kenna, Michael Browne, Harry McCue, Martin Russell, Kenny Cunningham, Tommy Dunne, Liam Buckley, John Devine, Paul Cook, Eddie Gormley, Steve Harrison, Brendan Place.

2013
Adrian Fitzpatrick, Dave Mackey, Declan Devine, Gerry Carr, Harry Kenny, John Brennan, Johnny Glynn, Keith Long, Mick Cooke, Pat Scully, Paul O’Brien, Shane Keegan, Tom O’Connor, Trevor Croly.

UEFA A Licence Holder

John Caulfield
05/11/2013, 7:07 PM
gufcfan

Posted last night on the GUST forum by Vinny, the site admin.

A list of coaches with the UEFA PRO Coaching License. It's important to note, these are coaches that have done the course through the FAI, there are obviously other coaches based in Ireland that have completed the course through the IFA/SFA/theFA/WFA, etc. Also, the list doesn't take into account managers from outside Ireland of course.

2009
Brian Kerr, Noel O’Reilly, Paul Doolin, Pete Mahon, Paul Ashworth, Paul Clement, John Gill, Tony Mannion, Pat Dolan, Joe Boyle, Mike Kerley, Noel King, Packie Bonner, Pat Fenlon, Tony Cousins, Don Givens, Johnny McDonnell, Alan Mathews.

2011
Curtis Fleming, Jeff Kenna, Michael Browne, Harry McCue, Martin Russell, Kenny Cunningham, Tommy Dunne, Liam Buckley, John Devine, Paul Cook, Eddie Gormley, Steve Harrison, Brendan Place.

2013
Adrian Fitzpatrick, Dave Mackey, Declan Devine, Gerry Carr, Harry Kenny, John Brennan, Johnny Glynn, Keith Long, Mick Cooke, Pat Scully, Paul O’Brien, Shane Keegan, Tom O’Connor, Trevor Croly.

Taken from http://garethmaher.com/2013/09/28/li...-no-guarantee/
05/11/2013, 7:26 PM
A face

Ok, that's great ... So I know John Caulfield is in the 2014 group, would I be right in saying Owen Heary will be in that group as well? Do we know of anyone else going for it?
06/11/2013, 1:22 AM
Lim till i die

Stuart Taylor has a Pro license from the SFA.

If youre actually going to get into A and B licenses youre talking dozens if not 100s of people....

Off the top of my head:

A: Declan Farmer, Declan Considine, Noel O'Connor, Barry Ryan (ex striker not the goalkeeper), Tommy Gaynor, Conor Nestor, Colin O'Brien, Alan Reynolds.

B: Dave Dineen, Tommy Barrett, Jason O'Connor, Denis Hynes.

Theres way more on the tip of my brain but its late!!
06/11/2013, 1:49 AM
Charlie Darwin

Quote:

Originally Posted by gufcfan

Posted last night on the GUST forum by Vinny, the site admin.

A list of coaches with the UEFA PRO Coaching License. It's important to note, these are coaches that have done the course through the FAI, there are obviously other coaches based in Ireland that have completed the course through the IFA/SFA/theFA/WFA, etc. Also, the list doesn't take into account managers from outside Ireland of course.

2009
Brian Kerr, Noel O’Reilly, Paul Doolin, Pete Mahon, Paul Ashworth, Paul Clement, John Gill, Tony Mannion, Pat Dolan, Joe Boyle, Mike Kerley, Noel King, Packie Bonner, Pat Fenlon, Tony Cousins, Don Givens, Johnny McDonnell, Alan Mathews.

2011
Curtis Fleming, Jeff Kenna, Michael Browne, Harry McCue, Martin Russell, Kenny Cunningham, Tommy Dunne, Liam Buckley, John Devine, Paul Cook, Eddie Gormley, Steve Harrison, Brendan Place.

2013
Adrian Fitzpatrick, Dave Mackey, Declan Devine, Gerry Carr, Harry Kenny, John Brennan, Johnny Glynn, Keith Long, Mick Cooke, Pat Scully, Paul O’Brien, Shane Keegan, Tom O’Connor, Trevor Croly.

Taken from http://garethmaher.com/2013/09/28/li...-no-guarantee/

And with that, the entire programme was discredited.
06/11/2013, 10:06 AM
Strongbow10

Quote:

Originally Posted by A face

Folks, just wondering who has what badges within Irish Football.

Right now, we know that John Caulfield is going for his UEFA Pro Licence in Feb 2014 so he has his UEFA A Licence already.
Tommy Dunne had the managers position with City so he must have a UEFA Pro Badges as well.

Who else do we know of (that we can confirm) that has a UEFA Pro and who has a UEFA A or B at the moment?

UEFA Pro Licence Holder

2009
Brian Kerr, Noel O�Reilly, Paul Doolin, Pete Mahon, Paul Ashworth, Paul Clement, John Gill, Tony Mannion, Pat Dolan, Joe Boyle, Mike Kerley, Noel King, Packie Bonner, Pat Fenlon, Tony Cousins, Don Givens, Johnny McDonnell, Alan Mathews.

2011
Curtis Fleming, Jeff Kenna, Michael Browne, Harry McCue, Martin Russell, Kenny Cunningham, Tommy Dunne, Liam Buckley, John Devine, Paul Cook, Eddie Gormley, Steve Harrison, Brendan Place.

2013
Adrian Fitzpatrick, Dave Mackey, Declan Devine, Gerry Carr, Harry Kenny, John Brennan, Johnny Glynn, Keith Long, Mick Cooke, Pat Scully, Paul O�Brien, Shane Keegan, Tom O�Connor, Trevor Croly.

UEFA A Licence Holder

John Caulfield

Roddy Collins doesn't have a licence.

He gives the licences :D
06/11/2013, 10:13 AM
Mr A

Ireland has 141 A and PRO coaches according to a report from earlier this year. Unfortunately the link I had for the report no longer works though.
06/11/2013, 10:14 AM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

If youre actually going to get into A and B licenses youre talking dozens if not 100s of people....

No harm in that.
06/11/2013, 10:14 AM
A face

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr A

Ireland has 141 A and PRO coaches according to a report from earlier this year. Unfortunately the link I had for the report no longer works though.

Where was that report posted?
06/11/2013, 10:20 AM
Mr A

Got it: http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...6_DOWNLOAD.pdf

From UEFA themselves as of March 25th.

31 PRO level, 110 A level and 500 B level. Our number of qualified coaches compared to playing population is abysmal- significantly worse than in England were there at least seems to be some recognition of the fact. That and the lack of focus on the LOI and sorting football structures generally are probably the biggest issues the FAI need to address.
06/11/2013, 10:44 AM
Dodge

There would be more coaches with the pro licence if it didn't cost €7,500 to get in Ireland.

http://coaching.fai.ie/images/FAI_UE...ation_Pack.pdf

It's more expensive in Wales too

http://www.welshfootballtrust.org.uk...allicence.aspx
06/11/2013, 11:18 AM
nigel-harps1954

Much cheaper to get your licences in the north. I think the likes of Peter Hutton has his badges through the IFA. A lot of players from England came over to do coaching badges with the IFA recently enough. Steve Harper, Joey Barton, Maik Taylor among them.
06/11/2013, 11:21 AM
Dodge

It's not really price, but frequency. Loads of pros from England do the A + B licence with the FAI for example
06/11/2013, 11:27 AM
nigel-harps1954

http://www.irishfa.com/fs/doc/IFA_Co...es_Booklet.pdf

Details of IFA coaching badges. �1,200 (residential, Non-residential �950) to do the UEFA A licence.
06/11/2013, 11:29 AM
gufcfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr A

Ireland has 141 A and PRO coaches according to a report from earlier this year. Unfortunately the link I had for the report no longer works though.

If it links to a web page, as opposed to a pdf or word file, it could be possible to recover it. Send it on if you still have it.
07/11/2013, 8:11 AM
Sam_Heggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

http://www.irishfa.com/fs/doc/IFA_Co...es_Booklet.pdf

Details of IFA coaching badges. �1,200 (residential, Non-residential �950) to do the UEFA A licence.

That's only half the course.
07/11/2013, 8:15 AM
Sam_Heggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

There would be more coaches with the pro licence if it didn't cost €7,500 to get in Ireland.

http://coaching.fai.ie/images/FAI_UE...ation_Pack.pdf

It's more expensive in Wales too

http://www.welshfootballtrust.org.uk...allicence.aspx

In fairness to them, the €7500 includes you're accommodation, meals, flights and transfers, etc throughout the course. Unlike the A and B Courses where you have to pay your own way no matter where the course is being held.
07/11/2013, 9:02 AM
Dodge

I wasn't having a pop at the FAI, I'm just highlighting how expensive the PRO licence is everywhere
07/11/2013, 10:34 AM
Sam_Heggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

I wasn't having a pop at the FAI, I'm just highlighting how expensive the PRO licence is everywhere

Yeah, it's very costly to get your badges from start to finish.

Kick Start €50
Kick Start 2 €75
Strength and Conditioning €25
Small sided games €25
Youth Cert €300
UEFA B €1500
UEFA A €2350
Pro €7500

Basically €12,000 from start to finish, not including the travel/time off work/accommodation, etc which is probably another few grand for most folk outside of Dublin.
07/11/2013, 8:27 PM
Treaty Gooner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Stuart Taylor has a Pro license from the SFA.

If youre actually going to get into A and B licenses youre talking dozens if not 100s of people....

Off the top of my head:

A: Declan Farmer, Declan Considine, Noel O'Connor, Barry Ryan (ex striker not the goalkeeper), Tommy Gaynor, Conor Nestor, Colin O'Brien, Alan Reynolds.

B: Dave Dineen, Tommy Barrett, Jason O'Connor, Denis Hynes.

Theres way more on the tip of my brain but its late!!

[COLOR=#333333]Tommy Barrett, Alan Reynolds and Barry Ryan haven't got the A Licence yet and Jason O'Connor hasn't got his B Licence. Conor Nestor a B Licence and Dave Dineen has neither.

Duno about the rest but that's coming from Conor Nestor himself at a recent kick start course I did. Watch out Qatar 2022! [/COLOR]
07/11/2013, 10:27 PM
Lim till i die

Hmmm got my on the course and done the course mixed up a lot there....

I tried damnit! :-)