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I know this is goign to go straight in the rubbish but I need Mr. PP to see this and I know he is online. Could you reply/PM me with an (A Level standard) definition of the difference between Direct Democracy and Indirect Democracy.
Thanks a million :D
Fair juice to ya-had been searching the net for the last hour and thought I'd ask for a hand from ma mate with the Politics Ba/Ma :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Direct democracy in its traditional form is Rule by the people through referenda. The people are given the right to pass laws, veto laws and withdraw support from a representative (if the system has representatives) at any time. Some of the issues surrounding the related notion of a direct democracy using the Internet and other communications technologies are dealt with in e-democracy/Internet democracy. In the United States when specific direct democracy issues, other than the election of representatives, reach a local- or state-level ballot, they are commonly referred to by local and state governments as "ballot questions" or "ballot measures".
Various governments around the world exhibit one or more of the above pillars; for example, just over half the states in the United States have citizen-sponsored ballot initiatives and the vast majority have either initiatives and/or referenda.
Switzerland provides the strongest example of a modern direct democracy, as it exhibits the first two pillars at both the local and federal levels. In the past 120 years more than 240 initiatives have been put to referendum. The populace has been conservative, granting about 10% of the initiatives put; in addition, they have often opted for a version of the initiative rewritten by government.
The second pillar can include the ability to hold a binding referendum on whether a given law should be scrapped. This effectively grants the populace a veto on government legislation.
Indirect democracy
Indirect democracy is a broad term describing a means of governance by the people through elected representatives. One critique of indirect democracy is that it centralizes power into the hands of a few, thereby increasing the likelihood of corruption in government. Moreover, while some contend indirect democracy eliminates demagoguery, there is little reason to believe the elected representatives are not themselves demagogues, or subject to the persuasive appeal of demagogues
A form of indirect democracy is delegative democracy. In delegative democracy, delegates are selected and expected to act on the wishes of the constituency. In this form of democracy the constituency may recall the delegate at any time. Representatives are expected only to transmit the decisions of electors, advance their views, and if they fail to do so they are subject to immediate representative recall with only minimal process.
The more familiar representative democracy is a system in which the people elect government officials who then make decisions on their behalf.
Essentially, a representative democracy is a form of indirect democracy in which representatives are democratically selected, and usually harder to recall.
A doctrine often known as Edmund Burke's Principle states that representatives should act upon their own conscience in the affairs of a representative democracy. This is contrasted to the expectation that such representatives should consider the views of their electors - an expectation particularly common in States with strong constituency links, or with representative recall provisions (such as modern British Columbia).
Nice one Joe-cheers very much!
Thanks to PP to obv :D
Liam-are you doing AS Govt and Politics too? I just started it here in London. Basically exactly what i'm doing. My homework was to define PArliamentary and Presidential. Tough stuff....
Aye Jofy exactly the same! Aye it is tough, but good fun though :) What other subjects ya taking?
Good to meet another exile my age-no offence to Dav/PP/Lopez/Pat/Bill/Sylvo; you guys rule an always will do :D honest i mean it!
After I just said how coll you are; there's gratitude for ye :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Tis conferring to be sure-totally legal! :D
Liam, surely all democracy is a sham design to legitimise old oligrachies while ensuring the establishment of new middle class money in the govering of the country. All to the detriment of those who produce the wealth for others. The establishment of any genuinely working class democratic regime is often undermined by either American imperialism - e.g. Nicarauga, Venezuela or Chilie - or by the stalling of Civil Servants and big business deperate to keep their old ways of life in tact. The Labour administration of 1945 - 1951 being an example of how this happens.
Now stick that in your essay :D
A Harps fan talking sense. Who'd have thought it? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton
Agreeing with a Derry fan?! I may have to change my whole outlook on life :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Erm, Spanish, Eng Lit and Geography. I have this AVCE after hours style Business Studies thing, which is nearly 100% coursework based :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by liam88
Hate coursework... Amazing that you're my age though, most other exiles are 25+. We're a growing minority :D
pat, sometime su never cease to amaze me with quite how much of a tangent u can go on out of nothing, tis quality .Quote:
Liam, surely all democracy is a sham design to legitimise old oligrachies while ensuring the establishment of new middle class money in the govering of the country. All to the detriment of those who produce the wealth for others. The establishment of any genuinely working class democratic regime is often undermined by either American imperialism - e.g. Nicarauga, Venezuela or Chilie - or by the stalling of Civil Servants and big business deperate to keep their old ways of life in tact. The Labour administration of 1945 - 1951 being an example of how this happens.
ya's can add me to that list, glad i'm not the only one under the age of 25 on here. just finished the old a levels taking a nice well earned break/ doss around...sorry i mean gap year.....Quote:
Amazing that you're my age though, most other exiles are 25+. We're a growing minority
tommo
Hey now you, you've only been here two minutes and already your trying to kick off ;) Believe the above to be fairly factual and anyway don't you have some skateboarding to be watching :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomo
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Originally Posted by Thomo
OOOOO NOOOOO. :D Here come's the bear's.
And yea doss being the opperative word yer bowsey.
BTW welcome aboard.
Quality! Let's see how many under-25 exiles we can get at the next meet up, was 3 last time , me an ma bros :D
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Hey now you, you've only been here two minutes and already your trying to kick off Believe the above to be fairly factual and anyway don't you have some skateboarding to be watching
meeeow! jeez, and here was me being nice and genuine and u going down that road!! oh and btw, i all seriousness i do concede there to be 'some' fact in what u wrote, just not all of it, but thats just me.
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OOOOO NOOOOO. Here come's the bear's.
Lol, i wondered how long it would take b4 the bear stuff started!
Right from the start young man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomo
fair enough sylvo fair enuff blud :)
Don't tell me I'm spending a night in France with an Anarchist! :eek: Don't forget the Catalan 'soviets' in the SCW, Patricio. Great idea: shame they couldn't agree on anything (except, of course, to not agree on anything). :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton
I see you are adding this rant to my comments on the toff who wouldn't wash and coming up with crusty! No I'm more a lazy Marxist (you know the revolution starts after closing ;) ) However I am preparing an extra special drunken rant for the under 21's that will begin around the time that I will be hanging up comrade Che and finish at about 4am! I can just tell how much you are looking forward to this now :eek: .Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
The history of the left is littered with great examples of how they would rather spend the time in violent theoretical disagreement rather then fight the opposition. You of course will be familiar with the PSUC/PSE and the FAI/ POUM shooting at each other in Barcalona when the Spanish countryside was littered with more enticing targets. In pre-revolutionary Russia they almost made a sport of this, and indeed in our own dear Ireland the Officals, the INLA and the IPLO seemed spent as much time working out ways to brutalise each other than any of their percieved enemies.
Hombre its a jungle in here, one day you will thank me for toughening you up. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomo
Yes we're all familiar with that one! :D :D Anyway, was it George Orwell that said lefties are great until the revolution is over, then they should all put up against the wall and shot? I think you could suggest some candidates from history even if this thesis is slightly over the top. I could suggest some trade union officials from work who presently reside in middle to higher management. BTW, I hope you don't get too bolshy on champers top? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton
I shall be bringing a room service breakfast around to yer room on 9/10 @ 8.30 and shall see how the punch up, sorry night's sleep went.
Breakfast will consist of super tennent's, white lightning, thunderbird and four rose's. :p
Take it the Four Roses is for Popeye 'Kiss my Irish ass' Doyle in case he pops in? I'm sticking with the Hennesy's until 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
Sylvo just don't overcharge him for the Hennesys or you may find half your kit going to Harlem Hempsted as reprisal! ;)